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Post by puvo on Apr 6, 2017 10:16:14 GMT
Just an aside here, can you defame an online user name? Or would we need to know your real identity? Very good question. As a lot of posters know who I am and my user name is not a character then yes, you can defame an online name as that name has been in use for over 10 years. Wow. Random Thanks for the info. I think its pretty sad that people take their faceless online personas so seriously, but oh well, I dont believe everyone should think like me either.
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2017 10:17:17 GMT
Banning should be for breaches of rules, not for just being utterly awful, like she is. Here's a rule: "Don't be utterly awful."
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2017 10:19:19 GMT
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Post by londonbird on Apr 6, 2017 10:21:12 GMT
Very good question. As a lot of posters know who I am and my user name is not a character then yes, you can defame an online name as that name has been in use for over 10 years. Wow. Random Thanks for the info. I think its pretty sad that people take their faceless online personas so seriously, but oh well, I dont believe everyone should think like me either. I hear what you are saying but as I say I now am friends with a number of posters many long gone who all knew me as LB. I won't be lied about. End of. There is still a person behind the screen name. awhina . Look two posters not agreeing being civil. It's not a myth.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 6, 2017 10:22:44 GMT
if Awhina gives reasons for ban (as perceived by the poster in question) then the person is justified in asking for ban and continuing to not put her on ignore at the same time. Yeah, but its a childish move. Sure, if they break the rules - Ban away. But just for perceived slight? Lying? Just use ignore and grow the hell up. NOBODY BELIEVES HER LIES ANYWAY. Her lies are of the nature that takes shape of propaganda. Using a lie to create propaganda is disruption of normal working of this board. Let's see how she uses lies to create propaganda. Step 1: Lie that all staff on this board are gays. Step 2:Then claim that this board is a "gay board". Step 3: and spread this everywhere. She was calling this board's neutrality on sticky topics by Admin based on her lies. Another lie: Step 1: Lied that all staff here are anti-theists . She already knew that Bluejay is a christian, I am not an atheist and nobody knows what admin is. Step 2: Now claim that it is an anti-Christian board. Step 3: Repeat this. or for that matter, some of her lies are defamation. That a poster is a fat man and in her town and she is in danger. Or a poster called Karl Aksel was glad that some women were sexually molested. These are not simple lies. Her lies are toxic. Cash is justified in asking for ban. Nothing childish about it.
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Post by puvo on Apr 6, 2017 10:27:15 GMT
Sure. You get to do whatever you want as you run the place. You are doing a great job. I just don't see the need to take her seriously. The people that interact with her have been doing it for years, so they (should) know not to take her seriously. Nobody except erjen believes her lies, and I dont even think he actually does, they just support each other because nobody else does. This is why I initially suggested to you to not take her seriously when interacting with her. She doesnt annoy you so much when you realise she has significant cognitive issues. That thread has been deleted, but imdb2.freeforums.net/post/144732
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Post by puvo on Apr 6, 2017 10:28:11 GMT
Wow. Random Thanks for the info. I think its pretty sad that people take their faceless online personas so seriously, but oh well, I dont believe everyone should think like me either. I hear what you are saying but as I say I now am friends with a number of posters many long gone who all knew me as LB. I won't be lied about. End of. There is still a person behind the screen name. awhina . Look two posters not agreeing being civil. It's not a myth. Whatever essex girl trash
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Post by awhina on Apr 6, 2017 10:29:27 GMT
Yeah, but its a childish move. Sure, if they break the rules - Ban away. But just for perceived slight? Lying? Just use ignore and grow the hell up. NOBODY BELIEVES HER LIES ANYWAY. Her lies are of the nature that takes shape of propaganda. Using a lie to create propaganda is disruption of normal working of this board. Let's see how she uses lies to create propaganda. Step 1: Lie that all staff on this board are gays. Step 2:Then claim that this board is a "gay board". Step 3: and spread this everywhere. She was calling this board's neutrality on sticky topics by Admin based on her lies. Another lie: Step 1: Lied that all staff here are anti-theists . She already knew that Bluejay is a christian, I am not an atheist and nobody knows what admin is. Step 2: Now claim that it is an anti-Christian board. Step 3: Repeat this. or for that matter, some of her lies are defamation. That a poster is a fat man and in her town and she is in danger. Or a poster called Karl Aksel was glad that some women were sexually molested. These are not simple lies. Her lies are toxic. Cash is justified in asking for ban. Nothing childish about it. Wtf are you lying about now "moderator"? I never said that about Karl Aksel
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Apr 6, 2017 10:29:42 GMT
Sure. You get to do whatever you want as you run the place. You are doing a great job. I just don't see the need to take her seriously. The people that interact with her have been doing it for years, so they (should) know not to take her seriously. Nobody except erjen believes her lies, and I dont even think he actually does, they just support each other because nobody else does. This is why I initially suggested to you to not take her seriously when interacting with her. She doesnt annoy you so much when you realise she has significant cognitive issues. That thread has been deleted, but imdb2.freeforums.net/post/144732 It hasn't been deleted but i'll post it for you anyway: "I'm just saying that if all someone is going to do is spam insults and antagonize, they can do it somewhere else. Generally speaking, if people like that are just allowed to roam free, it won't be long before people like that are all there is. When I look at someone's post history, I'm looking for anything of actual substance. If 100 out of 100 posts are nothing but "fuck you," "eat shit," and "DIAF," why would I tell everyone else to use the block feature? Do you think that having the ability to hold your nose is what gives someone the right to fart in an elevator? You don't remove the crowd from the troublemakers; you remove the troublemakers from the crowd. "
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 6, 2017 10:31:47 GMT
Her lies are of the nature that takes shape of propaganda. Using a lie to create propaganda is disruption of normal working of this board. Let's see how she uses lies to create propaganda. Step 1: Lie that all staff on this board are gays. Step 2:Then claim that this board is a "gay board". Step 3: and spread this everywhere. She was calling this board's neutrality on sticky topics by Admin based on her lies. Another lie: Step 1: Lied that all staff here are anti-theists . She already knew that Bluejay is a christian, I am not an atheist and nobody knows what admin is. Step 2: Now claim that it is an anti-Christian board. Step 3: Repeat this. or for that matter, some of her lies are defamation. That a poster is a fat man and in her town and she is in danger. Or a poster called Karl Aksel was glad that some women were sexually molested. These are not simple lies. Her lies are toxic. Cash is justified in asking for ban. Nothing childish about it. Wtf are you lying about now "moderator"? I never said that about Karl Aksel Did you put the proof about I banning you for changing your names. Still looking forward to the proof from you.
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Post by londonbird on Apr 6, 2017 10:32:46 GMT
I hear what you are saying but as I say I now am friends with a number of posters many long gone who all knew me as LB. I won't be lied about. End of. There is still a person behind the screen name. awhina . Look two posters not agreeing being civil. It's not a myth. Whatever essex girl trash Yo. Don't forget tubby and American!
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Post by puvo on Apr 6, 2017 10:35:11 GMT
Yeah, but its a childish move. Sure, if they break the rules - Ban away. But just for perceived slight? Lying? Just use ignore and grow the hell up. NOBODY BELIEVES HER LIES ANYWAY. Her lies are of the nature that takes shape of propaganda. Using a lie to create propaganda is disruption of normal working of this board. Let's see how she uses lies to create propaganda. Step 1: Lie that all staff on this board are gays. Step 2:Then claim that this board is a "gay board". Step 3: and spread this everywhere. She was calling this board's neutrality on sticky topics by Admin based on her lies. Another lie: Step 1: Lied that all staff here are anti-theists . She already knew that Bluejay is a christian, I am not an atheist and nobody knows what admin is. Step 2: Now claim that it is an anti-Christian board. Step 3: Repeat this. or for that matter, some of her lies are defamation. That a poster is a fat man and in her town and she is in danger. Or a poster called Karl Aksel was glad that some women were sexually molested. These are not simple lies. Her lies are toxic. Cash is justified in asking for ban. Nothing childish about it. Well, we will have to agree to disagree that it isn't childish. Fat man? So what. Toughen up. Danger to her? No poster believed she was actually being stalked by him. Take a step back, she is a crazy bag lady, and this is anonymous online posting. I see london birds point that some people take their online persona more seriously, and thats fine. But, if this was being done in real life to me personally, I wouldnt be whining about it there either, especially as nobody believes her (or her hypothetical equivalent at least). Ive called people out before for lying, but never demanded they be removed from the group of people. Others in that group might still enjoy the interaction, and im big enough and brave enough to deal with it. This is part of the reason liberals aren't getting anywhere anymore, IMO. Too sensitive about things that dont matter all that much. Again, just my opinion.
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2017 10:39:22 GMT
Sure. You get to do whatever you want as you run the place. You are doing a great job. I just don't see the need to take her seriously. The people that interact with her have been doing it for years, so they (should) know not to take her seriously. Nobody except erjen believes her lies, and I dont even think he actually does, they just support each other because nobody else does. I would like to believe that the members here are not all there ever will be. Ok, you got me there. I believe it now. Whole-heartedly. But it's not been a pleasant trip. I have the power to prevent future members of this board taking that trip, and you're saying I shouldn't exercise it? "Been there, done that, now it's your turn, have fun?"
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 6, 2017 10:40:06 GMT
Her lies are of the nature that takes shape of propaganda. Using a lie to create propaganda is disruption of normal working of this board. Let's see how she uses lies to create propaganda. Step 1: Lie that all staff on this board are gays. Step 2:Then claim that this board is a "gay board". Step 3: and spread this everywhere. She was calling this board's neutrality on sticky topics by Admin based on her lies. Another lie: Step 1: Lied that all staff here are anti-theists . She already knew that Bluejay is a christian, I am not an atheist and nobody knows what admin is. Step 2: Now claim that it is an anti-Christian board. Step 3: Repeat this. or for that matter, some of her lies are defamation. That a poster is a fat man and in her town and she is in danger. Or a poster called Karl Aksel was glad that some women were sexually molested. These are not simple lies. Her lies are toxic. Cash is justified in asking for ban. Nothing childish about it. Well, we will have to agree to disagree that it isn't childish. Fat man? So what. Toughen up. Danger to her? No poster believed she was actually being stalked by him. Take a step back, she is a crazy bag lady, and this is anonymous online posting. I see london birds point that some people take their online persona more seriously, and thats fine. But, if this was being done in real life to me personally, I wouldnt be whining about it there either, especially as nobody believes her (or her hypothetical equivalent at least). Ive called people out before for lying, but never demanded they be removed from the group of people. Others in that group might still enjoy the interaction, and im big enough and brave enough to deal with it. This is part of the reason liberals aren't getting anywhere anymore, IMO. Too sensitive about things that dont matter all that much. Again, just my opinion. No poster believes so what? If someone claims that I am after his or her life then I will question such a thing. If the person keeps lying about me then I will demand the admin to get into the matter and stop the person from defaming me. If a person has made it a routine to keep lying and enjoys disturbing the peace of the board then I will call for ban. Nothing Childish as far as I am concerned. That you enjoy her making a fool of herself is your reason not to see her banned. That does not make me a child.
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2017 10:41:33 GMT
No poster believed she was actually being stalked by him. No poster who knows her (and him) believed it. I think you're forgetting the ones who don't.
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2017 10:47:05 GMT
If the person keeps lying about me then I will demand the admin to get into the matter and stop the person from defaming me Who do I go to when someone defames me? Not to you specifically, Ajay, but to everyone... How many people do you suppose have stayed away from this forum because they believe the lies being told and the rumors being spread about me, the staff, the members here, and the forum in general by the likes of awhina, and Seth, and DrTokyo? And Ben? Holy crap. I'll bet I can name 10 just off the top of my head. Do we not want more people here?
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Post by Morgana on Apr 6, 2017 10:56:01 GMT
I'd suggest making it explicit what somebody is banned for. Ok, cupcakes ... I'm going to try it your way: Superdude has been banned for doxxing. Any questions? What does 'doxxing' mean?....I want to make sure I don't 'dox' by mistake.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Apr 6, 2017 10:59:44 GMT
Ok, cupcakes ... I'm going to try it your way: Superdude has been banned for doxxing. Any questions? What does 'doxxing' mean?....I want to make sure I don't 'dox' by mistake. Revealing personal info about another poster - real name, address. For example, it's wrong to post Awhina's real name and address just in case anyone might be tempted to send a cruise missile through her front door after making sure she is home.
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2017 10:59:57 GMT
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Post by Morgana on Apr 6, 2017 11:09:33 GMT
What does 'doxxing' mean?....I want to make sure I don't 'dox' by mistake. Revealing personal info about another poster - real name, address. For example, it's wrong to post Awhina's real name and address just in case anyone might be tempted to send a cruise missile through her front door after making sure she is home. Thanks.
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