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Post by summers8 on Nov 26, 2018 6:56:23 GMT
you know this is the criticism jodi forster was talking about. when jodi said how bad is it that studios keep making this billion dollar shallow comic movies just to open theme parks and feed the masses. lol. can't blame the women. she was right. As if her statement was limited to MCU exclusively... indirectly it was. it is disney mcu that is making shallow billion dollar comic films and opening theme parks with it.
also. she did not have this criticism when there was no mcu because comic films then like X2, Spiderman 2, TDK felt more like independent movies.
lastly JAMES GUNN took offence and started feuding with her.
we all know mcu made it easy for people to hate comic movies.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 26, 2018 6:59:05 GMT
you know this is the criticism jodi forster was talking about. when jodi said how bad is it that studios keep making this billion dollar shallow comic movies just to open theme parks and feed the masses. lol. can't blame the women. she was right. Foster wasn't talking about just the MCU she was talking about them all, unless there's something in her quote where she gives the X-Men or DC movies a pass that is. no she had mcu in mind since her criticism fits mcu description.
XMEN and DC don't make billion dollar budget films with theme parks in mind. that is mcu disney.
also xmen and dc has had films since 1978. why did she not call them out?
People hardly criticised comic films when there was no mcu.
see this is thing with mcu fans, they want to drag down other comic films to mcu low level of disgrace. aint happening.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2018 7:14:56 GMT
Where did you get that number?
There are ( thousands of ) sources online that say $300m
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Nov 26, 2018 7:23:22 GMT
Foster wasn't talking about just the MCU she was talking about them all, unless there's something in her quote where she gives the X-Men or DC movies a pass that is. no she had mcu in mind since her criticism fits mcu description.
XMEN and DC don't make billion dollar budget films with theme parks in mind. that is mcu disney.
also xmen and dc has had films since 1978. why did she not call them out?
People hardly criticised comic films when there was no mcu.
see this is thing with mcu fans, they want to drag down other comic films to mcu low level of disgrace. aint happening.
I’m still waiting for you to provide evidence that most people dislike the MCU. |
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Post by dazz on Nov 26, 2018 10:31:04 GMT
Foster wasn't talking about just the MCU she was talking about them all, unless there's something in her quote where she gives the X-Men or DC movies a pass that is. no she had mcu in mind since her criticism fits mcu description.
XMEN and DC don't make billion dollar budget films with theme parks in mind. that is mcu disney.
also xmen and dc has had films since 1978. why did she not call them out?
People hardly criticised comic films when there was no mcu.
see this is thing with mcu fans, they want to drag down other comic films to mcu low level of disgrace. aint happening.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA What a bold faced lie...hence the bolding.
Howard The Duck, Supergirl, Superman 3, 4 & Returns, Batman Forever + Batman & Robin, Steel, Catwoman, Daredevil, Elektra, Spiderman 3, X-Men The Last Stand, Swamp Thing 1 & 2, Fantastic 4 1 & 2, Spawn, Blade Trinity, The Punisher, Ghost Rider & Hulk were beloved classics of cinema that have been adored without criticism from the moment they were released...you utter twat sandwich.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Nov 26, 2018 11:32:05 GMT
Well look on the bright side this also helped employ a lot of people.
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Post by blockbusted on Nov 26, 2018 14:59:06 GMT
As if her statement was limited to MCU exclusively... indirectly it was. it is disney mcu that is making shallow billion dollar comic films and opening theme parks with it.
also. she did not have this criticism when there was no mcu because comic films then like X2, Spiderman 2, TDK felt more like independent movies.
lastly JAMES GUNN took offence and started feuding with her.
we all know mcu made it easy for people to hate comic movies.
Really? Then how do you explain all those poorly-received comic books films that came out before ‘Iron Man’? |
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Post by politicidal on Nov 26, 2018 16:50:10 GMT
That's capitalism folks.
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Post by politicidal on Nov 26, 2018 16:55:14 GMT
indirectly it was. it is disney mcu that is making shallow billion dollar comic films and opening theme parks with it.
also. she did not have this criticism when there was no mcu because comic films then like X2, Spiderman 2, TDK felt more like independent movies.
lastly JAMES GUNN took offence and started feuding with her.
we all know mcu made it easy for people to hate comic movies.
Really? Then how do you explain all those poorly-received comic books films that came out before ‘Iron Man’? Yeah 2007 was the worst time for the superhero genre since 1997. To think in one year we got Spider-Man 3, Ghost Rider, and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Just the year prior, we got Superman Returns and XMEN: The Last Stand. The genre was just facing a severe creative clout. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 26, 2018 17:28:14 GMT
Really? Then how do you explain all those poorly-received comic books films that came out before ‘Iron Man’? Yeah 2007 was the worst time for the superhero genre since 1997. To think in one year we got Spider-Man 3, Ghost Rider, and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Just the year prior, we got Superman Returns and XMEN: The Last Stand. The genre was just facing a severe creative clout. SM3 and SR are two of my favorites. |
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 26, 2018 17:31:45 GMT
Well look on the bright side this also helped employ a lot of people. Yup. IW wasn't excessively expensive. It's expensive because of the immensity of its scope... which includes a whole load of salaries needing to be paid. So for the size of the movie I actually think it's pretty cheap. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 26, 2018 17:33:10 GMT
Who cares what Jodie Foster thinks? That money employed thousands of people both directly and indirectly. It also created a huge profit which can be put into new projects that will employ thousands more people. That way instead of giving money to people you give people the opportunity to earn their living and gain valuable experience. Those profits and wages were also taxed and that money is used for infrastructure, welfare, and countless government services.
Economics 101.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 26, 2018 17:44:36 GMT
Where is this $400 M figure sourced from? The last account I saw - from Forbes.com - was $321 M (representing 5.4% of the total annual costs of Disney's Studio Entertainment division).
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Post by scabab on Nov 26, 2018 17:58:00 GMT
Yeah I don't think it would be as high as $400 million, if it were there'd be articles about it being the most expensive movie and I've never seen one for it.
Deadline estimated $316 million. Which if true makes you wonder how the hell Justice League cost $300 million.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 26, 2018 18:21:50 GMT
Feed and clothe countless starving children for decades or entertain nerds for a few hours. What a travesty. Then the actors have the nerve to tell us what we are doing wrong. When they're not assaulting women and kids of course. It's shameful. Does anyone else feel sickened by this? I'm unfortunately numb to it nowadays.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 26, 2018 18:29:54 GMT
Yeah I don't think it would be as high as $400 million, if it were there'd be articles about it being the most expensive movie and I've never seen one for it. Deadline estimated $316 million. Which if true makes you wonder how the hell Justice League cost $300 million. With Marketing included, maybe. It would be hard to swallow $400 M as a pre-marketing figure. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 26, 2018 18:32:43 GMT
Who cares what Jodie Foster thinks? That money employed thousands of people both directly and indirectly. It also created a huge profit which can be put into new projects that will employ thousands more people. That way instead of giving money to people you give people the opportunity to earn their living and gain valuable experience. Those profits and wages were also taxed and that money is used for infrastructure, welfare, and countless government services. Economics 101. She just directed an episode of Black Mirror when she made that comment. Of course she wanted to direct people to watching something smaller. Like her project. Do we ever see someone in an interview when they aren't promoting something speaking out on something else? Would anyone care what dude in Titans said if he wasn't promoting Titans? |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 26, 2018 22:47:37 GMT
Foster wasn't talking about just the MCU she was talking about them all, unless there's something in her quote where she gives the X-Men or DC movies a pass that is. no she had mcu in mind since her criticism fits mcu description.
XMEN and DC don't make billion dollar budget films with theme parks in mind. that is mcu disney.
also xmen and dc has had films since 1978. why did she not call them out?
People hardly criticised comic films when there was no mcu.
see this is thing with mcu fans, they want to drag down other comic films to mcu low level of disgrace. aint happening.
No, she was talking about them in a general sense, if she had favoritism with one brand or the other she would've expressed it so in her quote. That's false, Warner Bros. has made theme park attractions based off of their properties in the past and in the present, and DC is definitely not absent from any of it. Fox doesn't really have their own theme park which is why they agreed to sell to Disney because they could provide them attractions based on Avatar and others under their brand, except for The Simpsons probably as their attractions are more located with Universal theme parks. There were not a lot of superhero movies before the big boom of the early 00's, in 1978 Superman: The Movie was the only majorly released superhero movie with state of the art special effects. Foster was a teenager back then, the media didn't care about her political views they saved topics like that for more mature artists. That's totally false - superhero movies were criticized quite a lot especially back in the 1990s where the only ones that seem to do it right where Superman: The Movie and its follow-up and Burton's original Batman. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 26, 2018 23:46:35 GMT
no she had mcu in mind since her criticism fits mcu description.
XMEN and DC don't make billion dollar budget films with theme parks in mind. that is mcu disney.
also xmen and dc has had films since 1978. why did she not call them out?
People hardly criticised comic films when there was no mcu.
see this is thing with mcu fans, they want to drag down other comic films to mcu low level of disgrace. aint happening.
No, she was talking about them in a general sense, if she had favoritism with one brand or the other she would've expressed it so in her quote. That's false, Warner Bros. has made theme park attractions based off of their properties in the past and in the present, and DC is definitely not absent from any of it. Fox doesn't really have their own theme park which is why they agreed to sell to Disney because they could provide them attractions based on Avatar and others under their brand, except for The Simpsons probably as their attractions are more located with Universal theme parks. There were not a lot of superhero movies before the big boom of the early 00's, in 1978 Superman: The Movie was the only majorly released superhero movie with state of the art special effects. Foster was a teenager back then, the media didn't care about her political views they saved topics like that for more mature artists. That's totally false - superhero movies were criticized quite a lot especially back in the 1990s where the only ones that seem to do it right where Superman: The Movie and its follow-up and Burton's original Batman. Nah, I think she was talking about the MCU, but only because people love it. You tear down the most popular for controversy. Nobody would care if she said something against the X-men movies because they are mostly miss. You don't say something against the DCEU because you don't kick a man while he's down. No one would care if someone said something against those movies. But everyone is going to see Black Panther and Infinity War in the upcoming months. So let's say something against those movies in favor of my tv episode and that John Wick spin-off(?) that nobody went to see. That would get people in to watch what you are doing because it has to be better if you are making it that what you are doing is better. Oh and I forgot that she was in Elysium. Another movie people did not like. I mean, don't get made that people are seeing movies they like instead of your movies. Just make good movies.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 27, 2018 0:16:36 GMT
re: Jodie Foster and the like
What matters more than who she was talking about specifically, is why was she talking about them.
With the rise of the superhero genre many, once prominent, actors who had their run of Hollywood are now in the precarious position of trying to find profitable work or financing for their projects behind the camera.
For the sci-fi shy, Winter is here.
Jodie Foster, Sean Penn, Sam Rockwell, Bruce Willis and other like-minded "thespians" rarely ever touch movies based on speculative fiction, let alone super-hero movies (unless it's to lampoon the genre, a quick in-and-out paycheck or there is some strong dramatic appeal).
Foster actually thought she was doing us a favor with her underwhelming directorial turn on her episode of the Black Mirror. Her participation in the lackluster Hotel Artemis shows a willingness to adapt to the current climate of genre-driven fantasy but, alas, it may be too little and too late.
An actor acts. I'm not sure why this particular concept is so difficult for some in Hollywood to understand. This is why I have zero qualms with actors like Jeremy Irons or Glen Close who openly state that they have no affinity for the genre but, need to keep 'ticking away' as it were. Paying down your mortgage; now there's an excellent motivation.
It's as good a motivation as any to stand in front of the camera and say the words - even if you have no idea what they mean.
I'm sure they'd both rather be in some overwrought, melodramatic thing where they are yearning for someone's undying affections over tea and crumpets but, the current climate doesn't have as many opportunities for that as there once were.
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