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Post by summers8 on Nov 27, 2018 21:13:01 GMT
HM, can the pattern contunue where xmen or dc steal the show.
2011 First Class > captain america 1 thor 1
2012
TDKR > Avengers
2013
Man of Steel/The Wolverine > Iron Man 3/Thor 2
2014 DOFP > Winter Solider/GOTG
2016
Deadpool > Civil War/Dr Strange
2017 Logan/Wonder Woman > Homecoming, Thor Jokenock, GOTG
2018? Aquaman. Wildcard Deadpool.
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Post by scabab on Nov 28, 2018 0:07:29 GMT
Nah it's not about to be as good as Infinity War.
Most likely won't be better than Black Panther either but it has the potential to be better than Ant-man, Venom and Deadpool.
Also why did you leave off 2015?
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Post by hobowar on Nov 28, 2018 8:14:35 GMT
Nah it's not about to be as good as Infinity War. Most likely won't be better than Black Panther either but it has the potential to be better than Ant-man, Venom and Deadpool. Also why did you leave off 2015? Fant4stic was the only non mcu cbm in 2015. I'm surprised he didn't try to say it was better, though.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 28, 2018 9:27:39 GMT
2011 - I'm not personally a fan of First Class, but they made an X-Men movie without Wolverine, set it in the past, then replaced Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart with younger actors.. and it was successful. That's pretty impressive.
2012 - I would choose Avengers. TDKR was, in my opinion, a disappointing conclusion to Nolan's trilogy. TDK was some next level shit and I didn't feel like his heart was in it for TDKR.
2013 - Thor 2 is pretty awful. IM3 screwed up with that Mandarin reveal. Didn't love MOS. Kind of liked The Wolverine. I guess that 2013 was just a bummer CBM year for me lol.
2014 - Respectfully disagree. Winter Soldier is great and the best of the MCU. I did like DOFP though.
2016 - Most people would disagree, but I didn't really like Civil War. Doctor Strange was cool, but Deadpool was PERFECTION.
2017 - I do like Ragnarok and Homecoming, but Wonder Woman and Logan for sure. It reminded me of 2008 when we got an Oscar level CBM (The Dark Knight), and a phenomenal beginning to a successful comic book universe (Iron Man). I know WW wasn't the first DCEU film but it is to me lol.
2018 - I'd be surprised if it ended up better than Infinity War or Black Panther. I think it will surprise us but people are crazy over BP.
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Post by sostie on Nov 28, 2018 11:44:33 GMT
Seems your beloved X-Verse isn't always top of the heap.
2002 Oldboy > X2
2006 V for Vendetta > X-Men Last Stand
2009 Watchmen > X-Men Origins
2013 RED2 > The Wolverine
You conveniently ignored BvS and Suicide Squad I see
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 28, 2018 19:27:01 GMT
Well, lets wait for the movie to come out first. lol
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 28, 2018 19:42:33 GMT
“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is an explosion of pop art visuals, hyper kinetic action, and laugh-a-minute dialogue all focusing on a comic book universe at once part of the Marvel Universe and undoubtedly its own crazy thing. It’s a celebration of the entire history of the character, and all the characters, as well as a supremely positive message about believing in yourself and those around you. For my money, It’s easily the best Spider-Man movie of them all…” – Kyle Anderson, Nerdist
“A free-wheeling, fast-and-loose, strikingly animated addition to one of the biggest library of films in the Marvel collection. This is not to deny the pleasures and welcome arrival of this fresh new approach to all things Spidey, the new cast of characters and the adventurous approach to animation that invigorates before staying too long at the party…” – Todd McCarthy, THR
“Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse has more than enough plot and characters to match its ungainly title. Yet rather than trying to ground its wilder ideas, the filmmakers lean into the curves and allow the movie to go confidently berserk. It’s a brightly colored pop-art caricature of what it feels like to flip through a particularly kinetic comic book, and often brilliant in its fusion of old-fashioned and new-fangled aesthetics…” – Jess Hassenger, AV Club
“Happily, all the amiable nonsense that comes pouring out of this movie… is tethered to a boldly imagined origin story with its own potent emotional core. What distinguishes this in the end is that it takes its mission seriously, even when it’s being transparently silly… It’s a sign of a movie not just embracing its hand-drawn comic-book roots, but also striving to be the fullest, truest version of itself it can be…” – Justin Chang, The L.A. Times
“Honestly, I love this movie and I love that it exists. I love that Sony took a risk on a (yes) somewhat complicated premise and turned it into something unique and funny and daring (and weird). This animated movie has more heart and emotion than most live actions films of this genre…” – Mike Ryan, Uproxx
“Tthe brilliance of Sony’s snappy new animated film shows itself in the project’s uncanny ability to simultaneously reset and expand all that has come before, creating an inclusive world where pretty much anybody can be the superhero. In this universe, where audiences are suffering from the very real phenomenon of superhero overload, ambition and originality are to be encouraged, especially it broadens the mythology to include women, people of color, and yes, even that hammiest of scene-stealers, Peter Porker…” – Peter DeBruge, Variety
“Tragic news for anyone who’s sick of superhero movies: “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse” completely reinvigorates the genre, reaffirms why it’s resonating with a diverse modern audience that’s desperate to fight the power, and reiterates to us how these hyper-popular spandex myths are able to reinvent themselves on the fly whenever things get stale…” – David Ehrlich, Indiewire
“It captures the sprawling interconnectivity of comic-book universes in a way that no other feature film has. Anything can happen, and it usually does. It’s incredibly thrilling to watch, impressively emotional throughout, and easily the best Spider-Man movie since ‘Spider-Man 2’. …” – William Bibbiani, The Wrap
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 19:49:35 GMT
HM, can the pattern contunue where xmen or dc still the show.
"Still the show" Sigh.... How can that sit there for 22 hours without so much as a play on words people? Somebody say something like "BvS not only stilled the show, but half of the audience is still still! Some are still in a coma!"
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 28, 2018 19:52:57 GMT
“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is an explosion of pop art visuals, hyper kinetic action, and laugh-a-minute dialogue all focusing on a comic book universe at once part of the Marvel Universe and undoubtedly its own crazy thing. It’s a celebration of the entire history of the character, and all the characters, as well as a supremely positive message about believing in yourself and those around you. For my money, It’s easily the best Spider-Man movie of them all…” – Kyle Anderson, Nerdist “A free-wheeling, fast-and-loose, strikingly animated addition to one of the biggest library of films in the Marvel collection. This is not to deny the pleasures and welcome arrival of this fresh new approach to all things Spidey, the new cast of characters and the adventurous approach to animation that invigorates before staying too long at the party…” – Todd McCarthy, THR “Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse has more than enough plot and characters to match its ungainly title. Yet rather than trying to ground its wilder ideas, the filmmakers lean into the curves and allow the movie to go confidently berserk. It’s a brightly colored pop-art caricature of what it feels like to flip through a particularly kinetic comic book, and often brilliant in its fusion of old-fashioned and new-fangled aesthetics…” – Jess Hassenger, AV Club “Happily, all the amiable nonsense that comes pouring out of this movie… is tethered to a boldly imagined origin story with its own potent emotional core. What distinguishes this in the end is that it takes its mission seriously, even when it’s being transparently silly… It’s a sign of a movie not just embracing its hand-drawn comic-book roots, but also striving to be the fullest, truest version of itself it can be…” – Justin Chang, The L.A. Times “Honestly, I love this movie and I love that it exists. I love that Sony took a risk on a (yes) somewhat complicated premise and turned it into something unique and funny and daring (and weird). This animated movie has more heart and emotion than most live actions films of this genre…” – Mike Ryan, Uproxx “Tthe brilliance of Sony’s snappy new animated film shows itself in the project’s uncanny ability to simultaneously reset and expand all that has come before, creating an inclusive world where pretty much anybody can be the superhero. In this universe, where audiences are suffering from the very real phenomenon of superhero overload, ambition and originality are to be encouraged, especially it broadens the mythology to include women, people of color, and yes, even that hammiest of scene-stealers, Peter Porker…” – Peter DeBruge, Variety “Tragic news for anyone who’s sick of superhero movies: “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse” completely reinvigorates the genre, reaffirms why it’s resonating with a diverse modern audience that’s desperate to fight the power, and reiterates to us how these hyper-popular spandex myths are able to reinvent themselves on the fly whenever things get stale…” – David Ehrlich, Indiewire “It captures the sprawling interconnectivity of comic-book universes in a way that no other feature film has. Anything can happen, and it usually does. It’s incredibly thrilling to watch, impressively emotional throughout, and easily the best Spider-Man movie since ‘Spider-Man 2’. …” – William Bibbiani, The Wrap Did you post this here mistakenly or are you being an asshole? Since this is an A) Aquaman thread, and B) a DCEU board, guess which I'm leaning towards?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 28, 2018 19:54:33 GMT
“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is an explosion of pop art visuals, hyper kinetic action, and laugh-a-minute dialogue all focusing on a comic book universe at once part of the Marvel Universe and undoubtedly its own crazy thing. It’s a celebration of the entire history of the character, and all the characters, as well as a supremely positive message about believing in yourself and those around you. For my money, It’s easily the best Spider-Man movie of them all…” – Kyle Anderson, Nerdist “A free-wheeling, fast-and-loose, strikingly animated addition to one of the biggest library of films in the Marvel collection. This is not to deny the pleasures and welcome arrival of this fresh new approach to all things Spidey, the new cast of characters and the adventurous approach to animation that invigorates before staying too long at the party…” – Todd McCarthy, THR “Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse has more than enough plot and characters to match its ungainly title. Yet rather than trying to ground its wilder ideas, the filmmakers lean into the curves and allow the movie to go confidently berserk. It’s a brightly colored pop-art caricature of what it feels like to flip through a particularly kinetic comic book, and often brilliant in its fusion of old-fashioned and new-fangled aesthetics…” – Jess Hassenger, AV Club “Happily, all the amiable nonsense that comes pouring out of this movie… is tethered to a boldly imagined origin story with its own potent emotional core. What distinguishes this in the end is that it takes its mission seriously, even when it’s being transparently silly… It’s a sign of a movie not just embracing its hand-drawn comic-book roots, but also striving to be the fullest, truest version of itself it can be…” – Justin Chang, The L.A. Times “Honestly, I love this movie and I love that it exists. I love that Sony took a risk on a (yes) somewhat complicated premise and turned it into something unique and funny and daring (and weird). This animated movie has more heart and emotion than most live actions films of this genre…” – Mike Ryan, Uproxx “Tthe brilliance of Sony’s snappy new animated film shows itself in the project’s uncanny ability to simultaneously reset and expand all that has come before, creating an inclusive world where pretty much anybody can be the superhero. In this universe, where audiences are suffering from the very real phenomenon of superhero overload, ambition and originality are to be encouraged, especially it broadens the mythology to include women, people of color, and yes, even that hammiest of scene-stealers, Peter Porker…” – Peter DeBruge, Variety “Tragic news for anyone who’s sick of superhero movies: “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse” completely reinvigorates the genre, reaffirms why it’s resonating with a diverse modern audience that’s desperate to fight the power, and reiterates to us how these hyper-popular spandex myths are able to reinvent themselves on the fly whenever things get stale…” – David Ehrlich, Indiewire “It captures the sprawling interconnectivity of comic-book universes in a way that no other feature film has. Anything can happen, and it usually does. It’s incredibly thrilling to watch, impressively emotional throughout, and easily the best Spider-Man movie since ‘Spider-Man 2’. …” – William Bibbiani, The Wrap Did you post this here mistakenly or are you being an asshole? I wonder... Excuse me?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 28, 2018 19:55:41 GMT
Did you post this here mistakenly or are you being an asshole? I wonder... Excuse me? I repeat: this is an A) Aquaman thread, and B) a DCEU board. So....?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 28, 2018 19:58:52 GMT
I repeat: this is an A) Aquaman thread, and B) a DCEU board. So....? Are you joking? He asked if AM would be the best comic book film this year. Others implied it was BP or IW. Then I implied it would be SMITSV. Do you have some kind of problem with that?
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Post by thenewnexus on Nov 28, 2018 20:02:01 GMT
Some are saying it's equal to The Dark Knight. Judge Dredd will find some way to bash and say its no IW
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 28, 2018 20:02:45 GMT
Some are saying it's equal to The Dark Knight. Judge Dredd will find some way to bash and say its no IW Those are not DCEU films, so you are not allowed to mention them.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Nov 28, 2018 20:11:54 GMT
“Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse is an explosion of pop art visuals, hyper kinetic action, and laugh-a-minute dialogue all focusing on a comic book universe at once part of the Marvel Universe and undoubtedly its own crazy thing. It’s a celebration of the entire history of the character, and all the characters, as well as a supremely positive message about believing in yourself and those around you. For my money, It’s easily the best Spider-Man movie of them all…” – Kyle Anderson, Nerdist “A free-wheeling, fast-and-loose, strikingly animated addition to one of the biggest library of films in the Marvel collection. This is not to deny the pleasures and welcome arrival of this fresh new approach to all things Spidey, the new cast of characters and the adventurous approach to animation that invigorates before staying too long at the party…” – Todd McCarthy, THR “Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse has more than enough plot and characters to match its ungainly title. Yet rather than trying to ground its wilder ideas, the filmmakers lean into the curves and allow the movie to go confidently berserk. It’s a brightly colored pop-art caricature of what it feels like to flip through a particularly kinetic comic book, and often brilliant in its fusion of old-fashioned and new-fangled aesthetics…” – Jess Hassenger, AV Club “Happily, all the amiable nonsense that comes pouring out of this movie… is tethered to a boldly imagined origin story with its own potent emotional core. What distinguishes this in the end is that it takes its mission seriously, even when it’s being transparently silly… It’s a sign of a movie not just embracing its hand-drawn comic-book roots, but also striving to be the fullest, truest version of itself it can be…” – Justin Chang, The L.A. Times “Honestly, I love this movie and I love that it exists. I love that Sony took a risk on a (yes) somewhat complicated premise and turned it into something unique and funny and daring (and weird). This animated movie has more heart and emotion than most live actions films of this genre…” – Mike Ryan, Uproxx “Tthe brilliance of Sony’s snappy new animated film shows itself in the project’s uncanny ability to simultaneously reset and expand all that has come before, creating an inclusive world where pretty much anybody can be the superhero. In this universe, where audiences are suffering from the very real phenomenon of superhero overload, ambition and originality are to be encouraged, especially it broadens the mythology to include women, people of color, and yes, even that hammiest of scene-stealers, Peter Porker…” – Peter DeBruge, Variety “Tragic news for anyone who’s sick of superhero movies: “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse” completely reinvigorates the genre, reaffirms why it’s resonating with a diverse modern audience that’s desperate to fight the power, and reiterates to us how these hyper-popular spandex myths are able to reinvent themselves on the fly whenever things get stale…” – David Ehrlich, Indiewire “It captures the sprawling interconnectivity of comic-book universes in a way that no other feature film has. Anything can happen, and it usually does. It’s incredibly thrilling to watch, impressively emotional throughout, and easily the best Spider-Man movie since ‘Spider-Man 2’. …” – William Bibbiani, The Wrap Did you post this here mistakenly or are you being an asshole? Since this is an A) Aquaman thread, and B) a DCEU board, guess which I'm leaning towards?
BTW, you're reported for calling me an asshole. scabab Hauntedknight87
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Nov 28, 2018 21:20:23 GMT
Did you post this here mistakenly or are you being an asshole? Since this is an A) Aquaman thread, and B) a DCEU board, guess which I'm leaning towards?
BTW, you're reported for calling me an asshole. scabab Hauntedknight87
My sincerest apologies. My DC defense mode kicked in and it wasn't thought through.
See? I'm big enough to admit I went too far and apologize. We good?
scabab Hauntedknight87 ... My bad, mea culpa
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Post by summers8 on Nov 28, 2018 21:22:58 GMT
2011 - I'm not personally a fan of First Class, but they made an X-Men movie without Wolverine, set it in the past, then replaced Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart with younger actors.. and it was successful. That's pretty impressive. 2012 - I would choose Avengers. TDKR was, in my opinion, a disappointing conclusion to Nolan's trilogy. TDK was some next level shit and I didn't feel like his heart was in it for TDKR. 2013 - Thor 2 is pretty awful. IM3 screwed up with that Mandarin reveal. Didn't love MOS. Kind of liked The Wolverine. I guess that 2013 was just a bummer CBM year for me lol. 2014 - Respectfully disagree. Winter Soldier is great and the best of the MCU. I did like DOFP though. 2016 - Most people would disagree, but I didn't really like Civil War. Doctor Strange was cool, but Deadpool was PERFECTION. 2017 - I do like Ragnarok and Homecoming, but Wonder Woman and Logan for sure. It reminded me of 2008 when we got an Oscar level CBM (The Dark Knight), and a phenomenal beginning to a successful comic book universe (Iron Man). I know WW wasn't the first DCEU film but it is to me lol. 2018 - I'd be surprised if it ended up better than Infinity War or Black Panther. I think it will surprise us but people are crazy over BP. winter solider was the best MCU movie but DOFP was seen as the superior movie. I think also it was because by the time mcu managed to make a mature movie with winter solider. xmen was already seasoned and experinced with making mature movies, this was part of the reason winter solider still looked weak compared to DOFP in things like story and social themes.
People are not crazy about black panther that was media hype. people are not fools. they know it is another genrric mcu movei hyped up for race reason. also hype and better are not the same.
looking at that list 2013 wa not just the best year but it is safe to say the wolverine and man of steel were better efforts than thor 2 and iron man 3.
the standard is not that high this year like 2014 or 2017 or 2012. I really think aquaman will take it while deadpool will still be deadpool in its own uniue way. he competes with no one.
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Post by scabab on Nov 28, 2018 22:23:32 GMT
If a mistake and an apology was made (which is a rare thing so be proud to be man enough to do it) then there's no problem. I wish more people would apologize to others like that actually.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 28, 2018 23:17:49 GMT
2011 - I'm not personally a fan of First Class, but they made an X-Men movie without Wolverine, set it in the past, then replaced Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart with younger actors.. and it was successful. That's pretty impressive. 2012 - I would choose Avengers. TDKR was, in my opinion, a disappointing conclusion to Nolan's trilogy. TDK was some next level shit and I didn't feel like his heart was in it for TDKR. 2013 - Thor 2 is pretty awful. IM3 screwed up with that Mandarin reveal. Didn't love MOS. Kind of liked The Wolverine. I guess that 2013 was just a bummer CBM year for me lol. 2014 - Respectfully disagree. Winter Soldier is great and the best of the MCU. I did like DOFP though. 2016 - Most people would disagree, but I didn't really like Civil War. Doctor Strange was cool, but Deadpool was PERFECTION. 2017 - I do like Ragnarok and Homecoming, but Wonder Woman and Logan for sure. It reminded me of 2008 when we got an Oscar level CBM (The Dark Knight), and a phenomenal beginning to a successful comic book universe (Iron Man). I know WW wasn't the first DCEU film but it is to me lol. 2018 - I'd be surprised if it ended up better than Infinity War or Black Panther. I think it will surprise us but people are crazy over BP. winter solider was the best MCU movie but DOFP was seen as the superior movie. I think also it was because by the time mcu managed to make a mature movie with winter solider. xmen was already seasoned and experinced with making mature movies, this was part of the reason winter solider still looked weak compared to DOFP in things like story and social themes.
People are not crazy about black panther that was media hype. people are not fools. they know it is another genrric mcu movei hyped up for race reason. also hype and better are not the same.
looking at that list 2013 wa not just the best year but it is safe to say the wolverine and man of steel were better efforts than thor 2 and iron man 3.
the standard is not that high this year like 2014 or 2017 or 2012. I really think aquaman will take it while deadpool will still be deadpool in its own uniue way. he competes with no one.
That's an interesting thought about TWS. I personally believe that Iron Man has mature themes as well, with Tony being an arms dealer, a prisoner of war, dealing with seeing his own weapons killing American soldiers, and his father figure betraying him. But I think it gets overshadowed and forgotten because at the time, RDJ's arrogant, witty, and charming Tony Stark was brand new, but then they copycatted it by turning other MCU characters into similar quippy heroes. It sort of belittles people's view of the first MCU film, imo.
"Better efforts". That's a good way to describe The Wolverine and MOS. They weren't great but they went for something different and I respect that. Thor 2 is just... ugh. The reason I enjoy Thor: Ragnarok is because it leans into the goofiness. Even though that doesn't match Thor's character, it was much worse in the first two films where the silliness didn't feel intentional. IM3 could've been great. Shane Black giving the MCU a movie with a Kiss Kiss Bang Bang vibe? I was so on board. But then they screwed the Mandarin reveal to give us ANOTHER boring CEO villain. I couldn't believe it. I still enjoy it for the entertainment value, but it was damn disappointing.
As for Black Panther, I think the only way to find out how the world really feels about that film is to give it time. It will be interesting to see if we're still talking about it 5-10 years from now.
And yeah... Deadpool doesn't give a shit about any of it and they should just give Ryan Reynolds the rights to the character lol.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 29, 2018 0:46:22 GMT
Another thread created by summers8 and liked by DC-Fan where he tries to devalue any and all Marvel Studios produced movies in attempt to annoy their fan base. Exactly what do you hope to accomplish here, summers8? The people who typically call you out and argue against you are not going to change their minds on anything about any movie.
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