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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 3:08:05 GMT
I just want to know, are these movies racist to you? Rocky 1 through 5 I mean? Think about it, all the black boxers are defeated 90 % of the time by white guys (I would say 100% of the time but I don't remember what happens in Rocky III). They never had a black boxer 'beating' a white boxer. I guess that's to be expected though.
Second thing, could these movies be made today in the same way? Or would they have to put their little 'spin' on it. So to speak. |
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Post by ck100 on Dec 2, 2018 3:10:16 GMT
Well Paulie was racist in "Rocky III". He didn't want to hang out at that gym that Rocky went to work with Apollo since it had all those black boxers.
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Post by Johnny-Come-Lately on Dec 2, 2018 3:11:00 GMT
This was the last straw.
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Post by moviemouth on Dec 2, 2018 3:11:34 GMT
Um...doesn't Rocky lose to Apollo Creed in the first Rocky movie?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 3:13:41 GMT
Um...doesn't Rocky lose to Apollo Creed in the first Rocky movie? ok |
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Post by James on Dec 2, 2018 3:15:57 GMT
In III, Rocky beat Clubber Lang at the end, but that isn’t without mentioning Lang beating him in Fight 1, so...
Anyway, your analysis is pretty woeful.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 3:16:01 GMT
I know right...last straw 4 me too, that movie's lame. |
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Post by movielover on Dec 2, 2018 3:17:20 GMT
Um...doesn't Rocky lose to Apollo Creed in the first Rocky movie? ok Rocky also loses to Mr. T, I mean Clubber Lang, in Rocky III. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 3:18:17 GMT
In III, Rocky beat Clubber Lang at the end, but that isn’t without mentioning Lang beating him in Fight 1, so... Anyway, your analysis is pretty woeful. Woeful? I say what i'll do, I'll look that one up, and if I like what It means, then i'll forgive you. |
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Post by James on Dec 2, 2018 3:18:37 GMT
I know right...last straw 4 me too, that movie's lame. Come on, that guy was so annoying. I’m not racist, but he’s a character the audience is meant to feel contempt for. |
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Post by OldAussie on Dec 2, 2018 3:19:38 GMT
Anything can appear racist if you look hard enough and interpret things in a warped manner.
And having a racist character does not make a movie racist.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Dec 2, 2018 3:21:43 GMT
Apollo Creed was THE champion during the course of the first two Rocky movies. It's poor old Rocky who's the underdog. There's no evidence of racism anywhere in this series.
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Post by James on Dec 2, 2018 3:21:47 GMT
In III, Rocky beat Clubber Lang at the end, but that isn’t without mentioning Lang beating him in Fight 1, so... Anyway, your analysis is pretty woeful. Woeful? I say what i'll do, I'll look that one up, and if I like what It means, then i'll forgive you. I just don’t like getting into these kinds of subjects, especially for great franchises. |
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Post by ck100 on Dec 2, 2018 3:22:13 GMT
Paulie: [referring to African-Americans ] I don't like these people.
Rocky Balboa: You don't like em'? Well maybe they don't like you either Paulie.
Paulie: [in awe] What'd I ever do to them?
Rocky Balboa: [looks at Adrian] And they call ME "Punchy".
Paulie: [Arriving in Apollo's old L.A. gym filled with African-American boxers] We gotta leave. I've got a reputation.
Rocky Balboa: What do you mean reputation?
Paulie: You heard. I don't like these people.
Rocky Balboa: Maybe they don't like you either Paulie.
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Post by James on Dec 2, 2018 3:23:22 GMT
Also, you’re forgetting the most important thing for your argument: Apollo died in IV. But even then, I beg to differ.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 3:23:35 GMT
Anything can appear racist if you look hard enough and interpret things in a warped manner. And having a racist character does not make a movie racist. Exactly, I just want to point out these films are not racist to me. I was just testing the waters so to speak. |
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Post by WarrenPeace on Dec 2, 2018 4:37:12 GMT
I just want to know, are these movies racist to you? Rocky 1 through 5 I mean? Think about it, all the black boxers are defeated 90 % of the time by white guys (I would say 100% of the time but I don't remember what happens in Rocky III). They never had a black boxer 'beating' a white boxer. I guess that's to be expected though.
Second thing, could these movies be made today in the same way? Or would they have to put their little 'spin' on it. So to speak. You're letting yourself get brainwashed by that PC nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 5:49:39 GMT
How did I know this was a JoeTorrence thread just from the title?
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Dec 2, 2018 8:52:18 GMT
No.
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Post by James on Dec 3, 2018 1:02:18 GMT
How did I know this was a JoeTorrence thread just from the title? Because he usually takes a well-beloved product and a serious subject matter, adds those two and puts them in the title together. |
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