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Post by hi224 on Dec 9, 2018 19:08:38 GMT
A tricky question.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 19:18:00 GMT
Yes, unquestionably. He’s been elite for years.
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Post by Marv on Dec 9, 2018 19:36:48 GMT
Elite all time or elite for the current league?
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Post by marsexplorer on Dec 9, 2018 20:16:52 GMT
Not a tricky question at all.
Unequivocally yes.
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Post by Toy-Cannon on Dec 9, 2018 20:33:42 GMT
He seems to have super sperm.
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Post by NJtoTX on Dec 9, 2018 22:42:02 GMT
An elite asshole.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 9, 2018 22:45:21 GMT
He's elite-ish.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Dec 9, 2018 23:00:05 GMT
When I think "Elite" I think top 5 QB...Im sorry, Rivers imo has never been a top 5er.
Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Drew Brees
R. Wilson
Top 4 imo..
Newton
D. Watson
D. Carr
M. Stafford
Molhomme
Ive seen them all taken ahead of Rivers.
Am I saying he is chopped liver, no, but elite...errr......
Lets be real....I hate to go here but imo I have too. You got a fantasy football team, I know some of you do, how many of you start Rivers?
I bet none of you do.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Dec 10, 2018 0:36:50 GMT
When I think "Elite" I think top 5 QB...Im sorry, Rivers imo has never been a top 5er. Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees R. Wilson Top 4 imo.. Newton D. Watson D. Carr M. Stafford Molhomme Ive seen them all taken ahead of Rivers. Am I saying he is chopped liver, no, but elite...errr...... Lets be real....I hate to go here but imo I have too. You got a fantasy football team, I know some of you do, how many of you start Rivers? I bet none of you do. Andy Dalton? |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Dec 10, 2018 0:59:25 GMT
Yes Rivers is elite, he’s had an outstanding career, he’s just had enough talent around him to get to the Super Bowl. He’s better than Eli, and if Eli hadn’t demanded to play for the Giants and used his family’s connections to go there, Rivers would’ve gone there and would probably have a Super Bowl Title.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Dec 10, 2018 2:07:02 GMT
Yes Rivers is elite, he’s had an outstanding career, he’s just had enough talent around him to get to the Super Bowl. He’s better than Eli, and if Eli hadn’t demanded to play for the Giants and used his family’s connections to go there, Rivers would’ve gone there and would probably have a Super Bowl Title. Rivers had extraordinary talent around him, especially early. He had hall of fame weapons his whole career. |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 10, 2018 2:08:50 GMT
Yes Rivers is elite, he’s had an outstanding career, he’s just had enough talent around him to get to the Super Bowl. He’s better than Eli, and if Eli hadn’t demanded to play for the Giants and used his family’s connections to go there, Rivers would’ve gone there and would probably have a Super Bowl Title. Rivers had extraordinary talent around him, especially early. He had hall of fame weapons his whole career. What hall of fame weapons besides Tomlinson? |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Dec 10, 2018 2:10:01 GMT
Yes Rivers is elite, he’s had an outstanding career, he’s just had enough talent around him to get to the Super Bowl. He’s better than Eli, and if Eli hadn’t demanded to play for the Giants and used his family’s connections to go there, Rivers would’ve gone there and would probably have a Super Bowl Title. Rivers had extraordinary talent around him, especially early. He had hall of fame weapons his whole career. Early on he had some, but he didn’t have much from about 2010 up until last season. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Dec 10, 2018 2:12:05 GMT
Rivers had extraordinary talent around him, especially early. He had hall of fame weapons his whole career. What hall of fame weapons besides Tomlinson? Antonio Gates |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Dec 10, 2018 2:12:43 GMT
Rivers had extraordinary talent around him, especially early. He had hall of fame weapons his whole career. Early on he had some, but he didn’t have much from about 2010 up until last season. Those early teams were absolutely stacked and underperformed. |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 10, 2018 2:14:44 GMT
What hall of fame weapons besides Tomlinson? Antonio Gates While I agree that Gates will be a hall of famer, he’s a tight end, he’s not Randy Moss. I wouldn’t go so far to call him a “weapon”. Semantics perhaps, just my opinion. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Dec 10, 2018 2:19:28 GMT
While I agree that Gates will be a hall of famer, he’s a tight end, he’s not Randy Moss. I wouldn’t go so far to call him a “weapon”. Semantics perhaps, just my opinion. That's a reeeeeal stretch, but you can say 'hall of fame talent' instead if it makes you feel better. |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Dec 10, 2018 2:24:33 GMT
While I agree that Gates will be a hall of famer, he’s a tight end, he’s not Randy Moss. I wouldn’t go so far to call him a “weapon”. Semantics perhaps, just my opinion. That's a reeeeeal stretch, but you can say 'hall of fame talent' instead if it makes you feel better. With the possible recent exceptions of Gronk, Ertz, Kelce, and like two seasons worth of Jimmy Graham, what tight end makes or break a game? Tony Gonzalez caught a million balls that added up to jack shit. What impact did Jason Witten have? Gates was a good player but his real impact was minimal. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Dec 10, 2018 2:33:13 GMT
That's a reeeeeal stretch, but you can say 'hall of fame talent' instead if it makes you feel better. With the possible recent exceptions of Gronk, Ertz, Kelce, and like two seasons worth of Jimmy Graham, what tight end makes or break a game? Tony Gonzalez caught a million balls that added up to jack shit. What impact did Jason Witten have? Gates was a good player but his real impact was minimal. Having Witten made Romo a significantly better player. When you have that sort of reliability it takes a lot of pressure off of you, especially in 3rd down situations. But it doesn't really matter. Antonio Gates is a hall of fame player. That's better than not having great players around you. The insistence that Eli had better teams around him and succeeded because of them, and Rivers carried his mediocre offenses on his back, especially early on, is absurd. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 2:53:33 GMT
No.
I am of the opinion that there are only 3 and they are Brady, Brees, Rodgers. Then you have a notch down with guys like Big Ben, Russ, Rivers, Ryan. So to me he's a very good hall of fame quarterback but never did I view him as elite.
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