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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 10, 2018 0:26:04 GMT
A problem is only problem when it becomes an actual problem. Until then, just pray for rain.
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Post by judgejosephdredd on Dec 10, 2018 0:35:38 GMT
In fairness to Larson the character as she's been written in the last few yeas has been cold and pretty boring, if playing the Carol Danvers back when she was Ms. Marvel we might have a different story.
Real talk - Larson is a great actress, but she's more at home in a drama or comedy, not so much with action.
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Post by kleinreturns on Dec 10, 2018 6:32:09 GMT
Hey Haters, Larson is smiling here. |
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Post by summers8 on Dec 10, 2018 7:54:48 GMT
is it that she has no range or the script is failing her?
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Post by hobowar on Dec 10, 2018 8:01:13 GMT
is it that she has no range or the script is failing her? Please tell us how you'd fix a script you know 0% about. |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 10, 2018 8:33:14 GMT
is it that she has no range or the script is failing her? A smart person would realize that they need to see the movie first before being able to judge that. |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 10, 2018 9:05:58 GMT
is it that she has no range or the script is failing her? I think its pointed out here that she is obviously a talented actor. So its more that the script is failing her, as nothing in the trailer makes her stand out and appear confident. She is reminding me of Rey from Star Wars. Disney made her the franchise star of the new SW and its not working, she has minimal presence and badly written due to poor scripts. Bri Larson is a better actor no doubt but if the script they give her is bland even she cannot become what they want her too. And remember so far Disney MCU has not had any great female portrayal.
If Captain Marvel was another MCU flick introducing another minor character then this wouldn't be a problem. But as someone stated earlier, Kevin Feige has proclaimed (in miscalculation error or not) Captain Marvel to take over the throne from Ironman/Capain America as the poster child of the MCU. She is going to be the biggest draw for Avengers films after 2019. That's a gigantic transition even without the fact she will be the first female brand leader and its not off to the best start.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 10, 2018 11:01:58 GMT
is it that she has no range or the script is failing her? A smart person would realize that they need to see the movie first before being able to judge that. once again...response from some mcu fans leads me to question why this generation is now so dumbed down.
no we don't necessarily have to see the film, people of high intelligence can make solid prediction from things like trailers. Brie is only acting what is in the script. if she is appearing to have no range it could possibly be the script is written to be one dimensional and that is why she looks limited in the acting department from the trailers.
lol..people asking me if I am smart but they are the ones that don't know how to look beneath the surface...hm, do you know how people predict the weather forecast for next week without needing to wait till next week?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Dec 10, 2018 11:08:51 GMT
Personally i don`t think its fair to judge somebody based on a 2 minute trailer of a movie that is going to last between 120 and 150 minutes.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 10, 2018 11:55:28 GMT
It's possible that she only going by what there's directors are giving her. It's also the director job to get a good performance from the actor. I will also add that it's possible that the character could be written this way as well. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 10, 2018 13:07:50 GMT
It's possible that she only going by what there's directors are giving her. It's also the director job to get a good performance from the actor. I will also add that it's possible that the character could be written this way as well. I will also add that we've barely seen any character moments because the plot to the film revolves around her figuring out who she is. My concern is that they'd make her 'the face of the MCU' or whatever without ever really having the character earn that distinction, a la the new Star Wars trilogy with Rey. At the very least, Captain Marvel's movie should explain why she's much more powerful than everyone else. I've always been concerned with Larson in this role, but I'm going to at least watch the film before deciding one way or the other. |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 10, 2018 17:26:37 GMT
is it that she has no range or the script is failing her? I think its pointed out here that she is obviously a talented actor. So its more that the script is failing her, as nothing in the trailer makes her stand out and appear confident. She is reminding me of Rey from Star Wars. Disney made her the franchise star of the new SW and its not working, she has minimal presence and badly written due to poor scripts. Bri Larson is a better actor no doubt but if the script they give her is bland even she cannot become what they want her too. And remember so far Disney MCU has not had any great female portrayal.
If Captain Marvel was another MCU flick introducing another minor character then this wouldn't be a problem. But as someone stated earlier, Kevin Feige has proclaimed (in miscalculation error or not) Captain Marvel to take over the throne from Ironman/Capain America as the poster child of the MCU. She is going to be the biggest draw for Avengers films after 2019. That's a gigantic transition even without the fact she will be the first female brand leader and its not off to the best start.
So far only Hela really stood out among female characters. |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 10, 2018 17:30:48 GMT
A smart person would realize that they need to see the movie first before being able to judge that. once again...response from some mcu fans leads me to question why this generation is now so dumbed down.
no we don't necessarily have to see the film, people of high intelligence can make solid prediction from things like trailers. Brie is only acting what is in the script. if she is appearing to have no range it could possibly be the script is written to be one dimensional and that is why she looks limited in the acting department from the trailers.
lol..people asking me if I am smart but they are the ones that don't know how to look beneath the surface...hm, do you know how people predict the weather forecast for next week without needing to wait till next week?
Only an idiot would judge a 2 hour movie based on a 2 min trailer and then have the gall to insist he's right. And yes, I know how weather prediction works, and if you knew anything about it you'd understand why you can't use it to compare movie quality. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 18:52:02 GMT
I'd be lying if I said I was genuinely concerned.
I haven't seen much of her even after perusing her filmography, but she has won an Oscar, so I don't especially feel like she's swinging above her weight class.
But if I may make an observation, Christopher Eccelston does have a lot of range and I think he kind of phoned it in as Malekith in Thor The Dark World. Just as I believe any actor is capable of delighting audiences with surprise, any actor is capable of disappointing audiences too.
I also don't mind because the MCU takes some risks. Robert Downy Jr...was pretty much always a good actor, but at the time of being taken on by Marvel, he was on his 2nd of 3 strikes. The third would land him back in jail. Chris Evans, I would have never figured for Captain America (especially after playing Human Torch) but his casting is still one of Marvel's best decisions.
If I don't like Captain Marvel after I've seen it, that's a separate issue entirely.
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Post by havenless on Dec 10, 2018 19:17:16 GMT
A smart person would realize that they need to see the movie first before being able to judge that. once again...response from some mcu fans leads me to question why this generation is now so dumbed down.
no we don't necessarily have to see the film, people of high intelligence can make solid prediction from things like trailers. Brie is only acting what is in the script. if she is appearing to have no range it could possibly be the script is written to be one dimensional and that is why she looks limited in the acting department from the trailers.
lol..people asking me if I am smart but they are the ones that don't know how to look beneath the surface...hm, do you know how people predict the weather forecast for next week without needing to wait till next week?
Maybe Marvel just needs to hire the trailer editors that DC got to make Suicide Squad? |
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 10, 2018 19:21:13 GMT
I'd be lying if I said I was genuinely concerned.
I haven't seen much of her even after perusing her filmography, but she has won an Oscar, so I don't especially feel like she's swinging above her weight class.
But if I may make an observation, Christopher Eccelston does have a lot of range and I think he kind of phoned it in as Malekith in Thor The Dark World. Just as I believe actor is capable of delighting audiences with surprise, it comes with accepting that any actor is capable of disappointing audiences too.
I also don't mind as much because the MCU and movies in general are wrought with risk. Robert Downy Jr...was pretty much always a good actor, but at the time of being taken on by Marvel, he was on his 2nd of 3 strikes. The third would land him back in jail. Chris Evans, I would have never figured for Captain America (especially after playing Human Torch) and his casting is still one of Marvel's best decisions.
If I don't like Captain Marvel after I've seen it, that's a separate issue entirely, and if that will be the case, then Marvel/Disney will simply have to continue their operation without my support. I'm sure they'll get through it.
I've made this particular point already in one of these threads but I'll mention it again here: I believe for these superhero roles, what you really need is someone with a lot of presence, not necessarily someone with a lot of acting talent. I mean, don't get me wrong, obviously you still need someone who can act... but stellar acting talent doesn't seem quite as necessary as charisma. These characters don't exactly do complex dramas, no need for some heavy acting. What they do need is to look heroic and inspiring by just standing up in a spandex suit and saying a few words while punching bad guys. You need charisma for that way more than heavy acting talent. That's why Gal Gadot was successful as Wonder Woman. Why Arnold Schwarzenegger was successful as Conan. Why Chris Hemsworth is celebrated as Thor yet can't seem to get much respect for his other roles. Heck, cast Dwayne Johnson in one of these movies and I bet he'd do perfectly well despite being a one-trick pony. Even freakin Batista has been celebrated as Drax, and he has awful acting skills. It's also why actors like Natalie Portman don't quite do well in these movies. Look at Alicia Vikander as Tomb Raider. Based on her previous movies she's a perfectly talented actress, yet she comes across as ridiculously bland as a heroine. Some actors need meaty roles in order to shine, in order to showcase their talents. These are not the actors you want for these movies. You want to get actors that can grab your attention simply by walking around. Ones who have presence more than acting talent. I already know Brie Larson has the acting talent, I just don't know if she has the charisma. Some actors have both. Chris Evans, Tom Hiddleston and Anthony Hopkins are good examples. So let's hope for the best for Brie. |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 10, 2018 20:20:39 GMT
I already know Brie Larson has the acting talent, I just don't know if she has the charisma. Some actors have both. Chris Evans, Tom Hiddleston and Anthony Hopkins are good examples. So let's hope for the best for Brie. Thats exactly what im saying. She is talented dramatic actress no doubt but is she a major franchise carrier like RDJ has been with his Iron Man. Or Harrison Ford with Indiana Jones franchise, Bruce Willis with Die Hard franchise, Tom Cruise with Mission Impossible etc etc. MCU is probably bigger than all of those and Feige has put immense pressure on Brie Larson to be the flagship character of that. And from those 2 minute trailers, its not off to a great start with really tame first impressions of her Carol Danvers. Look at RDJ in Iron man trailer 1. The charisma, range, on screen presence, likeability of his Tony Stark. |
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Post by charzhino on Dec 10, 2018 20:24:14 GMT
And as a side note, Fox tried to do this with Jennifer Lawrence as Mistique attempting to make her one of the leads of the Xmen franchise and failed. Her Raven, other than in First Class feels very similar to Bri Larsons trailer appearances. Dull, monotoned, expressionless, bored and tame. Both actors have Oscar wins so its not about their credentials as actors but about the script and natural charisma .
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Dec 11, 2018 6:08:43 GMT
A smart person would realize that they need to see the movie first before being able to judge that. once again...response from some mcu fans leads me to question why this generation is now so dumbed down. no we don't necessarily have to see the film, people of high intelligence can make solid prediction from things like trailers. Brie is only acting what is in the script. if she is appearing to have no range it could possibly be the script is written to be one dimensional and that is why she looks limited in the acting department from the trailers. lol..people asking me if I am smart but they are the ones that don't know how to look beneath the surface...hm, do you know how people predict the weather forecast for next week without needing to wait till next week?
Quit while your ahead. Rambling on doesn't make you sound intelligence. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 11, 2018 6:52:23 GMT
once again...response from some mcu fans leads me to question why this generation is now so dumbed down. no we don't necessarily have to see the film, people of high intelligence can make solid prediction from things like trailers. Brie is only acting what is in the script. if she is appearing to have no range it could possibly be the script is written to be one dimensional and that is why she looks limited in the acting department from the trailers. lol..people asking me if I am smart but they are the ones that don't know how to look beneath the surface...hm, do you know how people predict the weather forecast for next week without needing to wait till next week?
Quit while your ahead. Rambling on doesn't make you sound intelligence. I'm one who makes a myriad of grammar mistakes in my posts, so I'm not one to call others out on grammar. The thing is I don't call myself highly intelligent while also making my normal errors. |
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