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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 14:41:51 GMT
So MCU fans can we make a deal? we all will support black panther getting an Oscar recognition in an important category on one condition. Can any of you MCU fans shows us past post of you yourself. saying wonder woman should get best picture. there is the saying that it is not the sin that was the problem, it is usually the hypocrisy that comes later
so MCU fans, go on the dc boards, search for yourself from page 20+ that should take you to the December to January times or so and see if you can find yourself supporting wonder woman getting an oscar for best picture when some people were pushing for it. if you can then I will fully support and not make truthful jokes of black panther getting a best picture nomination.
I think that is a fair and just solution for Black Panther.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 12, 2018 14:46:32 GMT
So MCU fans can we make a deal? we all will support black panther getting an Oscar recognition in an important category on one condition. Can any of you MCU fans shows us past post of you yourself. saying wonder woman should get best picture. there is the saying that it is not the sin that was the problem, it is usually the hypocrisy that comes later so MCU fans, go on the dc boards, search for yourself from page 20+ that should take you to the December to January times or so and see if you can find yourself supporting wonder woman getting an oscar for best picture when some people were pushing for it. if you can then I will fully support and not make truthful jokes of black panther getting a best picture nomination. I think that is a fair and just solution for Black Panther.So you want us to show proof that we were supporting a movie to win an award when it wasn't even nominated in the first place? Why is logic so hard for you?
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Post by havenless on Dec 12, 2018 14:47:41 GMT
So MCU fans can we make a deal? we all will support black panther getting an Oscar recognition in an important category on one condition. Can any of you MCU fans shows us past post of you yourself. saying wonder woman should get best picture. there is the saying that it is not the sin that was the problem, it is usually the hypocrisy that comes later so MCU fans, go on the dc boards, search for yourself from page 20+ that should take you to the December to January times or so and see if you can find yourself supporting wonder woman getting an oscar for best picture when some people were pushing for it. if you can then I will fully support and not make truthful jokes of black panther getting a best picture nomination. I think that is a fair and just solution for Black Panther.Calling out MCU fans? Calling an entire fan fanbase hypocrite? Is this no longer against forums rules? No one asked for Wonder Woman to be best picture because it Wasn’t good enough.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 14:51:41 GMT
So MCU fans can we make a deal? we all will support black panther getting an Oscar recognition in an important category on one condition. Can any of you MCU fans shows us past post of you yourself. saying wonder woman should get best picture. there is the saying that it is not the sin that was the problem, it is usually the hypocrisy that comes later so MCU fans, go on the dc boards, search for yourself from page 20+ that should take you to the December to January times or so and see if you can find yourself supporting wonder woman getting an oscar for best picture when some people were pushing for it. if you can then I will fully support and not make truthful jokes of black panther getting a best picture nomination. I think that is a fair and just solution for Black Panther.So you want us to show proof that we were supporting a movie to win an award when it wasn't even nominated in the first place? Why is logic so hard for you? no, before the nominations was announced. nice try in trying to play dumb.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 14:56:23 GMT
So MCU fans can we make a deal? we all will support black panther getting an Oscar recognition in an important category on one condition. Can any of you MCU fans shows us past post of you yourself. saying wonder woman should get best picture. there is the saying that it is not the sin that was the problem, it is usually the hypocrisy that comes later so MCU fans, go on the dc boards, search for yourself from page 20+ that should take you to the December to January times or so and see if you can find yourself supporting wonder woman getting an oscar for best picture when some people were pushing for it. if you can then I will fully support and not make truthful jokes of black panther getting a best picture nomination. I think that is a fair and just solution for Black Panther.Calling out MCU fans? Calling an entire fan fanbase hypocrite? Is this no longer against forums rules? No one asked for Wonder Woman to be best picture because it Wasn’t good enough. wonder woman is better than black panther. you can argue their plot evenly matched even though I think wonder woman has a better plot for not being as predictable, I am willing to give you plot as a draw but the edge wonder has over BP in technicality is what makes it a better movie overall. CGI, Cinematography, she wins. if WW is not good enough for you, how can BP be good enough.
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Post by havenless on Dec 12, 2018 14:57:29 GMT
Calling out MCU fans? Calling an entire fan fanbase hypocrite? Is this no longer against forums rules? No one asked for Wonder Woman to be best picture because it Wasn’t good enough. wonder woman is better than black panther. you can argue their plot evenly matched even though I think wonder woman has a better plot for not being as predictable, I am willing to give you plot as a draw but the edge wonder has over BP in technicality is what makes it a better movie overall. CGI, Cinematography, she wins. if WW is not good enough for you, how can BP be good enough. Your opinion is not law. So sorry.
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Post by charzhino on Dec 12, 2018 15:09:57 GMT
Thats the wrong question
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Post by kuatorises on Dec 12, 2018 15:25:27 GMT
So MCU fans can we make a deal? we all will support black panther getting an Oscar recognition in an important category on one condition. Can any of you MCU fans shows us past post of you yourself. saying wonder woman should get best picture. there is the saying that it is not the sin that was the problem, it is usually the hypocrisy that comes later so MCU fans, go on the dc boards, search for yourself from page 20+ that should take you to the December to January times or so and see if you can find yourself supporting wonder woman getting an oscar for best picture when some people were pushing for it. if you can then I will fully support and not make truthful jokes of black panther getting a best picture nomination. I think that is a fair and just solution for Black Panther. Calling out MCU fans? Calling an entire fan fanbase hypocrite? Is this no longer against forums rules?
No one asked for Wonder Woman to be best picture because it Wasn’t good enough. This your first time here?
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 15:27:09 GMT
wonder woman is better than black panther. you can argue their plot evenly matched even though I think wonder woman has a better plot for not being as predictable, I am willing to give you plot as a draw but the edge wonder has over BP in technicality is what makes it a better movie overall. CGI, Cinematography, she wins. if WW is not good enough for you, how can BP be good enough. Your opinion is not law. So sorry. it is a law the Oscars is about recognised the best of films and when they don't they are useless. see the difference? I stated my reasons for WW. she had better vfx her plot wasn't as predictable. you don't even have an opinion.
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Post by havenless on Dec 12, 2018 15:36:51 GMT
Your opinion is not law. So sorry. it is a law the Oscars is about recognised the best of films and when they don't they are useless. see the difference? I stated my reasons for WW. she had better vfx her plot wasn't as predictable. you don't even have an opinion. The only part of Wonder Woman that wasn’t predictable was when Storm and Magento showed up at the end and started fighting each other. Otherwise they took First Avenger and Wonder Woman animated movie and just mixed them together.
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 12, 2018 15:39:24 GMT
Um and for the people who thinks Black Panther is better movie overall? Your opinion is that WW is better than BP. In my family alone I know 10 people who think that BP was better. Just because you think WW is better than BP doesn't mean it's true.
Me personally I think WW is slightly above Black Panther overall. Both had their problems and strengths. I would say it's so slightly above I would have to go with a rating to the hundredths. Like 8.25 to 8.26.
Does this mean I think WW should get nominations? On Merit Not at all. For being a touchstone for societal change maybe. Do I think BP should get nominations? On Merit not at all. For being a touchstone for societal change maybe.
Now do I think that BP being nominated will hurt cbm's reputation or oscar's reputation biiiiiiigggggg huggggeeee heeellll no.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 15:43:12 GMT
it is a law the Oscars is about recognised the best of films and when they don't they are useless. see the difference? I stated my reasons for WW. she had better vfx her plot wasn't as predictable. you don't even have an opinion. The only part of Wonder Woman that wasn’t predictable was when Storm and Magento showed up at the end and started fighting each other. Otherwise they took First Avenger and Wonder Woman animated movie and just mixed them together. and you continue to loose more credibility since storm and magneto are not in the film. lol. everything about mcu is now about bad jokes. lets get back on topic. when did you join the board? surely you have post supporting WW get Oscars.
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 15:47:59 GMT
Um and for the people who thinks Black Panther is better movie overall? Your opinion is that WW is better than BP. In my family alone I know 10 people who think that BP was better. Just because you think WW is better than BP doesn't mean it's true. Me personally I think WW is slightly above Black Panther overall. Both had their problems and strengths. I would say it's so slightly above I would have to go with a rating to the hundredths. Like 8.25 to 8.26. Does this mean I think WW should get nominations? On Merit Not at all. For being a touchstone for societal change maybe. Do I think BP should get nominations? On Merit not at all. For being a touchstone for societal change maybe. Now do I think that BP being nominated will hurt cbm's reputation or oscar's reputation biiiiiiigggggg huggggeeee heeellll no. My response to 90% of your post will it hurt it , yes because it will mean comic films are now so useless with zero credulity only with race baiting can you get Oscars so that will hurt it. watch john campea explain it better than me. it devalues the Oscars and devaluing is the same as hurt.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 12, 2018 15:49:19 GMT
Your opinion is not law. So sorry. it is a law the Oscars is about recognised the best of films and when they don't they are useless. see the difference? I stated my reasons for WW. she had better vfx her plot wasn't as predictable. you don't even have an opinion. Nah, WW didn't have better vfx. Sure it didn't have anything as bad as the rhinos but neither did it have anything as beatiful as the Wakanda flyby or the car chase scene. And to be fair, WW is a good movie, but BP tops it mostly due to the fact that it lacks good villains.
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Post by havenless on Dec 12, 2018 15:55:30 GMT
The only part of Wonder Woman that wasn’t predictable was when Storm and Magento showed up at the end and started fighting each other. Otherwise they took First Avenger and Wonder Woman animated movie and just mixed them together. and you continue to loose more credibility since storm and magneto are not in the film. lol. everything about mcu is now about bad jokes. lets get back on topic. when did you join the board? surely you have post supporting WW get Oscars. You mean when then guy was throwing metal at her and she shot lightning bolts back at him, that was classic Wonder Woman comics?
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Post by Vassaggo on Dec 12, 2018 15:59:08 GMT
The only part of Wonder Woman that wasn’t predictable was when Storm and Magento showed up at the end and started fighting each other. Otherwise they took First Avenger and Wonder Woman animated movie and just mixed them together. and you continue to loose more credibility since storm and magneto are not in the film. lol. everything about mcu is now about bad jokes. lets get back on topic. when did you join the board? surely you have post supporting WW get Oscars. Your premise is still flawed. There is no way to factually prove that Wonder Woman is a better Film than Black Panther. None. Zero. You can argue all you want that your opinion is based in truth fact or God Herself told you it was. Your deal is dependent on the Opinion that Wonder Woman is a better Film. The people who think Wonder Woman wasn't a great film wouldn't have supported it getting nominations. If they thought Black Panther is a great film they would. It's been pointed out to you numerous times but subjective opinions are not facts. Calling a whole fan base hypocrites because they may or may not support one CBM for nominations vs another CBM is wrong on so many levels. There isn't rules to good art. There are guidelines for it but any one piece can break all rules and still be a great work of art. Take painting portraits there rules about how to do them. Rules of light and shadow. Rules of posture and pose. Rules of color theory, Rules for minimizing brush strokes. Abiding those rules if you are a master you can make this: This is also heralded as a great work of art and breaks everyone of the rules:
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Post by sostie on Dec 12, 2018 15:59:48 GMT
So MCU fans can we make a deal? we all will support black panther getting an Oscar recognition in an important category on one condition. Can any of you MCU fans shows us past post of you yourself. saying wonder woman should get best picture. I may have missed it, but can you provide a serious past post where an MCU fan has said BP should get best picture? And if you look carefully (and it wasn't just the DC boards) you'd notice that no one really would have even bothered getting into the discussion at any length whatsoever if it hadn't been for DC-Fan starting around 10 threads about how WW would definitely be nominated for the Top award.
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Post by Skaathar on Dec 12, 2018 16:01:19 GMT
So you want us to show proof that we were supporting a movie to win an award when it wasn't even nominated in the first place? Why is logic so hard for you? no, before the nominations was announced. nice try in trying to play dumb. So you want to compare support for WW BEFORE nominations with support for BP after nominations?
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Post by summers8 on Dec 12, 2018 16:01:49 GMT
it is a law the Oscars is about recognised the best of films and when they don't they are useless. see the difference? I stated my reasons for WW. she had better vfx her plot wasn't as predictable. you don't even have an opinion. Nah, WW didn't have better vfx. Sure it didn't have anything as bad as the rhinos but neither did it have anything as beatiful as the Wakanda flyby or the car chase scene. And to be fair, WW is a good movie, but BP tops it mostly due to the fact that it lacks good villains. she had better vfx. to keep it fair remember both movies had issues with effects but wonder woman was less problematic. the complains was the movie had too much in the end in effects. BP was just bad and poor effects. poor effects is a worse complain than too much effects. her home land was as beautiful and the cinematography uplifted the effect to BP where everything looks too CGI..a problem for the mcu If BP had a better villain, what of the argument that WW was a stronger lead hero and black panther himself was overshadowed in his own film? also what of chris pine who got the same attention as killmonger? what of the chemistry of WW and Steve to BP and the chick whose name I cannot remember that had less? ross and jack from titanic will side with WW?
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Post by sostie on Dec 12, 2018 16:08:44 GMT
what of the chemistry of WW and Steve to BP and the chick whose name I cannot remember that had less? ross and jack from titanic will side with WW? I'm not the biggest WW fan, but I must protest..it was way better than the turd that was Titanic
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