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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 11:42:16 GMT
Note: The definitions I gave in my poll choices are my own definitions and not necessarily related to standard definitions of those terms. You can also give your definitions and explain what you mean.
A passive atheist is also called an indifferent atheist. The member called Marv is a perfect example of a passive atheist. A passive atheist doesn’t believe in god but doesn’t try to influence the world in favour of atheism. A soft atheist is usually a person with a scientific/rational approach but isn't the one who tries to initiate criticism of religion on most occasions. But when a religious extremist tries to complain about atheism then the soft atheist is able to refute the religious extremist with a minimal ease. Examples would be lowtacks86 or phludowin . Note: My personal definition of soft atheist is way way different from the standard definition. The standard definition of soft atheism is that the soft atheist believes that God doesn't exist whereas a hard atheist claims to know that God doesn't exist I definitely distinguish between a hard atheist and a militant atheist. In my opinion, hard atheists even though critical of religions are not annoying but militant atheists are annoying because of their constant attempts to influence not just extremist theists but almost everyone. A militant atheist is also often called an evangelical atheist. An anti-theist is almost always moaning about religion. An anti-theist doesn't realise himself/herself that he or she comes as an utterly stupid person. Robert Loves Books on the old boards was an example of one. Cash is supreme (Brandon) once compared him with the worst of the theists. Cash also said that the fleetsin (another anti-theist) is as stupid as one can get. A religious atheist is one who follows certain religious traditions because she believes in certain spirituality or because she identifies with her ethnic heritage. Many Jews would qualify as one. The Buddhist member called alexej on the old boards was a religious atheist. I like passive atheists and soft atheists. I also like hard atheists depending on the person. I dislike evangelical atheists.
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Post by captainbryce on Dec 13, 2018 12:27:43 GMT
How about anti-theists who are generally intelligent, non-extremists?
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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 12:31:23 GMT
How about anti-theists who are generally intelligent, non-extremists? That is possible.
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Post by phludowin on Dec 13, 2018 12:57:22 GMT
I'm not sure if there's a significant difference in your definitions between "passive atheist" and "soft atheist". Which is why I didn't vote yet. I believe there is no deity; I tend to be materialist/naturalist. But I also do not try to convince others of my worldview.
However, I also expect others not to force their worldview on me. Especially through laws. But passive atheists / apatheists may feel the same way.
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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 13:10:46 GMT
I'm not sure if there's a significant difference in your definitions between "passive atheist" and "soft atheist". Which is why I didn't vote yet. I believe there is no deity; I tend to be materialist/naturalist. But I also do not try to convince others of my worldview. However, I also expect others not to force their worldview on me. Especially through laws. But passive atheists / apatheists may feel the same way. Let me explain the difference as I perceive between a soft atheist and a passive atheist. I believe a passive atheist is largely uninterested in talking about religion or atheism in general. For example - Marv does not show any special interest in religion or atheism. He may just talk about any random topic that interests him. A soft atheist, while not interested in changing your worldview, does speak against absurdities inherent in certain beliefs of religions/religious people. For example, if a religious person shows up and says "evolution is incorrect because have you ever seen a monkey changing into a man?" then the soft atheist will rationally explain that evolution doesn't say that a monkey suddenly changes into a man. It's a gradual process that takes place over 100s of thousands of years. The difference between a soft atheist and a hard atheist as I perceive is just of a degree. A hard atheist in my view is also usually a rational/logical person. But it is more likely that a hard atheist takes more initiatives to correct extremist theists or theist beliefs in general. Whereas the soft athiest waits for the opportunity for a theist to show up and talk some nonsense.
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Post by Marv on Dec 13, 2018 13:33:11 GMT
I’ve also been described as Apathetic-Atheist.
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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 13:36:22 GMT
I’ve also been described as Apathetic-Atheist. LOl that was a funny typo- "Apatheistic- Atheist" you meant.
I am an apatheist. And in a way I am also an atheist which means I am an apatheistic-atheist too.  I just choose not to identify with my atheist side because of militant atheists and their image.
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Post by Marv on Dec 13, 2018 13:44:53 GMT
I’ve also been described as Apathetic-Atheist. LOl that was a funny typo- "Apatheistic- Atheist" you meant.
I am an apatheist. And in a way I am also an atheist which means I am an apatheistic-atheist too.  I just choose not to identify with my atheist side because of militant atheists and their image. I thought it was apathetic...but it coulda been the other way. I don’t care. 
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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 13:47:56 GMT
LOl that was a funny typo- "Apatheistic- Atheist" you meant.
I am an apatheist. And in a way I am also an atheist which means I am an apatheistic-atheist too.  I just choose not to identify with my atheist side because of militant atheists and their image. I thought it was apathetic...but it coulda been the other way. I don’t care.ually  Actually that will also fit because the meaning of the word in general fits you when we are talking about your religious belief or lack of religious belief.
apathetic /apəˈθɛtɪk/ adjective
showing or feeling no interest, enthusiasm, or concern (towards atheism in your case)
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Post by general313 on Dec 13, 2018 16:08:19 GMT
The intrusion of religion into politics is what makes a passive approach unacceptable for me. Nobody cares what Amish people think or do because they mind their own business, but someone like Franklin Graham is bad for society. I'm not militant but I will take any opportunity to point out the hypocrisy and fake morals of people like him.
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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 16:16:04 GMT
The intrusion of religion into politics is what makes a passive approach unacceptable for me. Nobody cares what Amish people think or do because they mind their own business, but someone like Franklin Graham is bad for society. I'm not militant but I will take any opportunity to point out the hypocrisy and fake morals of people like him. As per my classification, you fall into the category of soft atheist. I have not seen enough evidence of you being a hard atheist and calling you militant would be outrageous.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 13, 2018 16:37:03 GMT
The intrusion of religion into politics is what makes a passive approach unacceptable for me. Nobody cares what Amish people think or do because they mind their own business, but someone like Franklin Graham is bad for society. I'm not militant but I will take any opportunity to point out the hypocrisy and fake morals of people like him. I actually do kinda care what Amish people do, mainly because it's not like their children asked for that lifestyle.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Dec 13, 2018 16:44:07 GMT
The intrusion of religion into politics is what makes a passive approach unacceptable for me. Nobody cares what Amish people think or do because they mind their own business, but someone like Franklin Graham is bad for society. I'm not militant but I will take any opportunity to point out the hypocrisy and fake morals of people like him. I actually do kinda care what Amish people do, mainly because it's not like their children asked for that lifestyle. They - the Amish - claim that their kids get a choice, that whole 'Rumspringa' thing - but given that those kids were given no skills to survive in the 'English' world, they mostly get scared and come back to what they know. Not really a fair comparison, IMO.
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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 16:45:53 GMT
The intrusion of religion into politics is what makes a passive approach unacceptable for me. Nobody cares what Amish people think or do because they mind their own business, but someone like Franklin Graham is bad for society. I'm not militant but I will take any opportunity to point out the hypocrisy and fake morals of people like him. I actually do kinda care what Amish people do, mainly because it's not like their children asked for that lifestyle. The problem with that would be that you can only care about it (which most people do if the question is phrased in correct way). You cannot do much about it.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Dec 13, 2018 18:04:49 GMT
The only good atheists is a d...I better not finish that as it’s sure to be taken seriously.
I love the atheists that tell me what my beliefs are. I’m learning so much!😊
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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 19:00:40 GMT
The only good atheists is a d...I better not finish that as it’s sure to be taken seriously. I love the atheists that tell me what my beliefs are. I’m learning so much!😊 The only good atheist is a democrat atheist?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Dec 13, 2018 19:06:59 GMT
The only good atheists is a d...I better not finish that as it’s sure to be taken seriously. I love the atheists that tell me what my beliefs are. I’m learning so much!😊 The only good atheist is a democrat atheist? Yep that’s what I almost said😬
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Post by Aj_June on Dec 13, 2018 19:20:03 GMT
The only good atheist is a democrat atheist? Yep that’s what I almost said😬 What about this new avatar? Has it any special significance or you just like how it looks?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Dec 13, 2018 19:38:04 GMT
Yep that’s what I almost said😬 What about this new avatar? Has it any special significance or you just like how it looks? well there is some vague symbolism regarding whether we are living in a dream or reality when we say stuff but overall I just wanted a less political and minimalist gif
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Post by Marv on Dec 13, 2018 20:19:12 GMT
Yep that’s what I almost said😬 What about this new avatar? Has it any special significance or you just like how it looks? Have you seen Inception? If not you should do so. Its a solid Nolan film. Not his best but still good.
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