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Post by miike80 on Mar 31, 2017 7:08:27 GMT
If the studio stops interfering it would be great
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Post by scapolite on Mar 31, 2017 8:50:22 GMT
Wow, other than the confirmed upcoming release, there are 12 announced projects in accordance with wiki...Would that be a little too much? How could they keep things in line?
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Mar 31, 2017 11:52:27 GMT
The IMDB version of DC fans hated Joss Whedon (and humour in general) so it would have been interesting to see their reaction.
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Post by miike80 on Mar 31, 2017 12:04:36 GMT
The IMDB version of DC fans hated Joss Whedon (and humour in general) so it would have been interesting to see their reaction. Oh ,where's Wormhole or Joby when you need them?
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Post by hardball on Mar 31, 2017 13:24:22 GMT
If Whedon does direct this movie, what would the tone and visuals be like? Will it still be like the DCEU now or will there be a shift to something lighter, tonally and visually?
Interesting times for the DCEU.
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Post by brownstones on Mar 31, 2017 14:50:04 GMT
If Whedon does direct this movie, what would the tone and visuals be like? Will it still be like the DCEU now or will there be a shift to something lighter, tonally and visually? Interesting times for the DCEU. Well they say it will be based on "darker" storylines. Joss is fairly malleable, Angel being a good example, one episode they're dealing with evil muppets and the next we lose a beloved character.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 31, 2017 16:10:17 GMT
If Whedon does direct this movie, what would the tone and visuals be like? Will it still be like the DCEU now or will there be a shift to something lighter, tonally and visually? Interesting times for the DCEU. Well they say it will be based on "darker" storylines. Joss is fairly malleable, Angel being a good example, one episode they're dealing with evil muppets and the next we lose a beloved character. Is it just me, or has Angel aged WAAAY better than Buffy for you? I watch Angel, and it's all at about the same level of quality in terms of scripting, plotting, dialogue, special effects, etc.; Buffy is super hit-or-miss, a lot of the dialogue is either dated colloquially or "too cute by half," the effects are adorably shitty on a lot of the earlier episodes, and the like. Love both shows, but Angel is basically contemporary to me, whereas Buffy is not.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 31, 2017 16:14:26 GMT
Well they say it will be based on "darker" storylines. Joss is fairly malleable, Angel being a good example, one episode they're dealing with evil muppets and the next we lose a beloved character. Is it just me, or has Angel aged WAAAY better than Buffy for you? I watch Angel, and it's all at about the same level of quality in terms of scripting, plotting, dialogue, special effects, etc.; Buffy is super hit-or-miss, a lot of the dialogue is either dated colloquially or "too cute by half," the effects are adorably shitty on a lot of the earlier episodes, and the like. Love both shows, but Angel is basically contemporary to me, whereas Buffy is not. I've always felt that Angel was the more adult version of Buffy. I mean, I enjoyed both equally back then because I was younger and could relate to both, but I did notice that Angel was a more mature show. Now that I'm older, I guess that's why I can appreciate Angel more than Buffy.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 31, 2017 16:21:39 GMT
I'd say that's down to the shows' basic premises.
Buffy was high school is hell.
Angel was life in the big bad city.
Consistently, I'd say Angel was superior in the way it was put together.
On the other hand, I believe Buffy's apexes were far greater than Angel's.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 31, 2017 16:24:58 GMT
Is it just me, or has Angel aged WAAAY better than Buffy for you? I watch Angel, and it's all at about the same level of quality in terms of scripting, plotting, dialogue, special effects, etc.; Buffy is super hit-or-miss, a lot of the dialogue is either dated colloquially or "too cute by half," the effects are adorably shitty on a lot of the earlier episodes, and the like. Love both shows, but Angel is basically contemporary to me, whereas Buffy is not. I've always felt that Angel was the more adult version of Buffy. I mean, I enjoyed both equally back then because I was younger and could relate to both, but I did notice that Angel was a more mature show. Now that I'm older, I guess that's why I can appreciate Angel more than Buffy. Maybe it's as simple as that, honestly. Because I can appreciate Buffy in a "nostalgic" way, but Angel is more "immediate" to me as an adult viewer. Good call.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 31, 2017 16:26:19 GMT
I'd say that's down to the shows' basic premises. Buffy was high school is hell. Angel was life in the big bad city. Consistently, I'd say Angel was superior in the way it was put together. On the other hand, I believe Buffy's apexes were far greater than Angel's. This too, though! I've never "marked out" for Angel the way I have for Buffy at various points in the series.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 31, 2017 16:27:37 GMT
I have a confession; I've never watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Firefly. I've always been more of a film person than a television person.
That being said, even if I considered those shows to be the best things ever made, I probably still wouldn't like the idea of Joss Whedon directing a DC film. Not because I dislike the guy or anything, but simply because it's too lazy of a decision. He's already directed the two biggest films of the MCU, and now he's directing a DCEU film? Also, I don't want them to focus too much on Batman's supporting cast, or Batman himself. We've seen enough of these guys. Focus more on characters like Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and even Superman.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 31, 2017 16:46:27 GMT
I have a confession; I've never watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Firefly. I've always been more of a film person than a television person. That being said, even if I considered those shows to be the best things ever made, I probably still wouldn't like the idea of Joss Whedon directing a DC film. Not because I dislike the guy or anything, but simply because it's too lazy of a decision. He's already directed the two biggest films of the MCU, and now he's directing a DCEU film? Also, I don't want them to focus too much on Batman's supporting cast, or Batman himself. We've seen enough of these guys. Focus more on characters like Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and even Superman. I do have to ask why that is. After all, he's proven he can handle a big budget movie. Directors who've had smaller projects suddenly being placed in charge of a blockbuster tend to not be able to handle it. Look no further than Josh Trank. I don't really consider it lazy to hire someone with qualifications to handle a job. Heck, that's what all good hiring managers do. Also, while I'll admit, we've seen enough of Batman, there are plenty from his supporting cast we haven't seen enough of in movie form.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 31, 2017 17:01:11 GMT
I have a confession; I've never watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Firefly. I've always been more of a film person than a television person. That being said, even if I considered those shows to be the best things ever made, I probably still wouldn't like the idea of Joss Whedon directing a DC film. Not because I dislike the guy or anything, but simply because it's too lazy of a decision. He's already directed the two biggest films of the MCU, and now he's directing a DCEU film? Also, I don't want them to focus too much on Batman's supporting cast, or Batman himself. We've seen enough of these guys. Focus more on characters like Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and even Superman. I do have to ask why that is. After all, he's proven he can handle a big budget movie. Directors who've had smaller projects suddenly being placed in charge of a blockbuster tend to not be able to handle it. Look no further than Josh Trank. I don't really consider it lazy to hire someone with qualifications to handle a job. Heck, that's what all good hiring managers do. Also, while I'll admit, we've seen enough of Batman, there are plenty from his supporting cast we haven't seen enough of in movie form. It's uninspired because it's basically typecasting. It's playing things way too safe. Besides, for every Josh Trank, there's also a Colin Trevorrow, who's able to make their first blockbuster movie a hit. I also don't think that Batgirl or Nightwing are strong enough characters to truly support their own solo adventures. I think they work best as supporting characters for Batman, or as part of an ensemble. Then again, DC's second best selling comic book character is Harley Quinn, and she's about as one-dimensional as it gets, so what do I know?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 21:17:25 GMT
The bottom line of the matter is WB has just admitted they don't know how to fix their own universe, so they're asking the MCU to do it for them.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 31, 2017 21:36:55 GMT
The bottom line of the matter is WB has just admitted they don't know how to fix their own universe, so they're asking the MCU to do it for them. You're thinking of Sony. Who gives away (partial) rights to SPIDER-MAN with the public reason being, "we're seriously too incompetent to manage 'Spider-Man' as an intellectual property"?! I get that you're just being snarky and ribbing about Whedon, but -- Jesus, that's the first thing I thought of and it still baffles me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 21:48:15 GMT
The bottom line of the matter is WB has just admitted they don't know how to fix their own universe, so they're asking the MCU to do it for them. You're thinking of Sony. Who gives away (partial) rights to SPIDER-MAN with the public reason being, "we're seriously too incompetent to manage 'Spider-Man' as an intellectual property"?! I get that you're just being snarky and ribbing about Whedon, but -- Jesus, that's the first thing I thought of and it still baffles me. Actually, I'm ribbing on the WB. They have access to the most recognizable superheroes, ever, and they're still somehow losing to characters that were second-swingers or lower a decade ago.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 31, 2017 22:55:47 GMT
You're thinking of Sony. Who gives away (partial) rights to SPIDER-MAN with the public reason being, "we're seriously too incompetent to manage 'Spider-Man' as an intellectual property"?! I get that you're just being snarky and ribbing about Whedon, but -- Jesus, that's the first thing I thought of and it still baffles me. Actually, I'm ribbing on the WB. They have access to the most recognizable superheroes, ever, and they're still somehow losing to characters that were second-swingers or lower a decade ago. That's what's so mind-blowing to me about the success of the MCU! They don't have anybody I'd even put in the top 20 in terms of all-time most significant or popular comic book superheroes, except of course Hulk -- if we're still considering Spider-Man a "Sony" guy. DC, on the other hand, has probably 8 or 9 of the top 10 (Superman, Batman, Joker, Wonder Woman, The Flash, etc.)! In terms of "transcendent," crossover appeal, it's ludicrous that DC isn't killing it with Spider-Man hot on their heels, followed distantly by FoX-Men and, dead last, MCU. And yet, we're discussing seriously whether a fucking Justice League movie will even be PROFITABLE for them. The mind reels. I wouldn't have believed you if you told me this would be the case twenty years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 23:11:24 GMT
Actually, I'm ribbing on the WB. They have access to the most recognizable superheroes, ever, and they're still somehow losing to characters that were second-swingers or lower a decade ago. That's what's so mind-blowing to me about the success of the MCU! They don't have anybody I'd even put in the top 20 in terms of all-time most significant or popular comic book superheroes, except of course Hulk -- if we're still considering Spider-Man a "Sony" guy. DC, on the other hand, has probably 8 or 9 of the top 10 (Superman, Batman, Joker, Wonder Woman, The Flash, etc.)! In terms of "transcendent," crossover appeal, it's ludicrous that DC isn't killing it with Spider-Man hot on their heels, followed distantly by FoX-Men and, dead last, MCU. And yet, we're discussing seriously whether a fucking Justice League movie will even be PROFITABLE for them. The mind reels. I wouldn't have believed you if you told me this would be the case twenty years ago. 20 years ago? Heck, in 2007, I was sure Ironman was going to be the biggest flop of the 2008 summer season. Directed by the Elf guy? Starring has-been and former media circus clown Robert Downey, jr? Get real! But you're right, there is absolutely no reason for the DCEU to not be killing it, except maybe for not being the first. If Nolan could have been convinced that having his Batman be a part of a Shared Universe back during Batman Begins' production, WB/DC could have been the forerunners of the trend and Marvel would have to play catch-up. We might even have had the Justice League before 2010.
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Post by formersamhmd on Apr 1, 2017 2:25:08 GMT
Fandoms are a million times more judgmental of female characters in general. It's not just exclusive to superhero films. A male character can get away with murder as long as he's good-looking and still retain a huge female fanbase. But if a female character does ANYTHING remotely unkind, watch out! Yeah. That's a huge problem. Look at the fan outcry against Skylar White versus Walter White. Walter literally got away with murder and was loved. Skylar had the nerve to try and stop her husband from being a drug kingpin, and people lost their minds. Death threats were sent to the actress. Yikes. Well, it's also that Skylar started off as a nagging wife archetype and it's so heavily ingrained in people to dislike that character that they couldn't see that she was basically right. It wasn't just her though...all the women in Breaking Bad were poorly written.
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