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Post by hairybuttcheeks on Mar 30, 2017 19:50:28 GMT
This is another one that gets me. They did it a lot last year, and they are doing it in ST a lot.
Complaining about pitching changes, time between pitches, stepping out of the box etc.
First of all, the average MLB game is about the same as an NFL game. NFL has it's own problems with constant commercials.
They are trying to cater to the ADD/smartphone generation by messing with the game at the expense of real fans. Fans that pay money to see a game don't want them to rush for TV viewers. I want to hang out at citi field for a few hours, not watch them rush a game.
Should a manager NOT make pitching changes to create favorable matchups because young fans might not like it? Should a pitching coach not go out and consult a struggling starter for the same reason? They even complain during play reviews if it goes beyond a minute. should they rush it and not try to make the right call to shorten the game by a minute?
Stop messing with the game. If you want constant action, watch hockey or basketball, not baseball or football.
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Post by ctown28 on Mar 30, 2017 20:27:24 GMT
I agree. I've yet to be at a ballgame and hear someone say, "Let's go, this game is taking to long. My limit was 3 hours!" I'd much rather them get a call right then to not give it enough time in review.
The only part I can understand is late games may lose viewers because people can't stay awake for it, but that is what DVR's are for.
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Post by hairybuttcheeks on Mar 30, 2017 20:38:26 GMT
i don't DVR games, i just check the scores the next day. my friends do though
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 30, 2017 22:02:30 GMT
I don't have a problem with the TIME of the games. Its the PACE of the games. And my biggest complaint in the 25 minutes between pitches. Tell me, why dos a batter, who has taken Ball one, have to step out of the box and readjust his damn gloves? YOU DIDN'T SWING!!. And then the pitcher paces like an expectant father. Go to YouTube and watch and older game, something from the 70's. There's non of that bullshit and the games seem crisper. I have no problem with pitching changes, throws to first. etc. Its the "Nomar Garciaparra Syndrome". He was the first one I remember doing it, although Dodger catcher Joe Ferguson, "The Human Rain Delay" did it before No-Mah. Stay in the box and stay on the mound.
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Post by hairybuttcheeks on Mar 30, 2017 23:32:09 GMT
I don't have a problem with the TIME of the games. Its the PACE of the games. And my biggest complaint in the 25 minutes between pitches. Tell me, why dos a batter, who has taken Ball one, have to step out of the box and readjust his damn gloves? YOU DIDN'T SWING!!. And then the pitcher paces like an expectant father. Go to YouTube and watch and older game, something from the 70's. There's non of that bullshit and the games seem crisper. I have no problem with pitching changes, throws to first. etc. Its the "Nomar Garciaparra Syndrome". He was the first one I remember doing it, although Dodger catcher Joe Ferguson, "The Human Rain Delay" did it before No-Mah. Stay in the box and stay on the mound. I agree with some of what you are saying. but baseball is a very mental game. hitters may step out after a pitch and adjust their gloves to THINK about his at bat. think about what the pitcher just threw, the count, and what he might throw next. hitters are always looking for a certain pitch, some of them will take a few seconds between pitches to think about it. that's my guess. and they did make a rules last year about stepping out of the batters box, it has helped some.
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Mar 31, 2017 9:31:39 GMT
I think your argument is a bit off-center. So, in the 150 years of baseball prior to all this ridiculous slowdown the batter & pitcher weren't mental? They didn't need all this extra time to figure out what they want to do? I think it's all a part of the "me" generation. It's partly to keep themselves in the spotlight as long as possible and needs to be reigned in.
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Post by hairybuttcheeks on Mar 31, 2017 19:27:23 GMT
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 31, 2017 19:43:32 GMT
I think your argument is a bit off-center. So, in the 150 years of baseball prior to all this ridiculous slowdown the batter & pitcher weren't mental? They didn't need all this extra time to figure out what they want to do? I think it's all a part of the "me" generation. It's partly to keep themselves in the spotlight as long as possible and needs to be reigned in. If a pitcher has any sense, he will do his utmost to work quick. And a pitcher can somewhat dictate the pace of the game. Get a pitcher who stands on the mound, gets his sing and it ready to pitch and the umpire will try to keep a batter in the box. Its much better for the fielders to have a game move along quickly. The smartest pitcher of my generation, Greg Maddux, always worked quickly.
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Post by hairybuttcheeks on Mar 31, 2017 20:09:23 GMT
agreed. however some good pitchers work slow. i have heard people complain david price works slow. hitting is timing. pitching is upsetting timing.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Mar 31, 2017 20:57:09 GMT
I think your argument is a bit off-center. So, in the 150 years of baseball prior to all this ridiculous slowdown the batter & pitcher weren't mental? They didn't need all this extra time to figure out what they want to do? I think it's all a part of the "me" generation. It's partly to keep themselves in the spotlight as long as possible and needs to be reigned in. If a pitcher has any sense, he will do his utmost to work quick. And a pitcher can somewhat dictate the pace of the game. Get a pitcher who stands on the mound, gets his sing and it ready to pitch and the umpire will try to keep a batter in the box. Its much better for the fielders to have a game move along quickly. The smartest pitcher of my generation, Greg Maddux, always worked quickly. One of my favorite nicknames....Steve Trachsel - the Human Rain Delay. That guy would take a solid minute between every pitch and he was someone who always gave up a ton of hits and walks. His starts were like prison sentences.
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