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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 30, 2018 4:04:41 GMT
No, it isn't. If someone lives across from Wrigley Field and they go up to their roof and watch a Cubs game from the roof of their building, that's not stealing. There's no law that says they can't go up to their roof and look across the street. Just because there's a ballgame going on across the street in Wrigley Field and he can see the ballgame from his roof without paying for a ticket to the ballgame doesn't make it stealing. The stadium is in a residential neighborhood? Yes, there are apartment buildings surrounding Wrigley Field. It's possible to watch a Cubs game from the roof of some of those apartment buildings. The ball game isn't written by, filmed by, sewn by, etc a crew of thousands. There are umpires, grounds crew, ushers, food vendors, janitors, etc. plenty of workers at an MLB game. Would you enjoy people partaking of your work without paying for it? Would you enjoy paying for a defective TV or paying for bad service at a restaurant? MCU movies are really awful so MCU is really the ones stealing the audience's money by making awful products.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2018 4:24:37 GMT
The stadium is in a residential neighborhood? Yes, there are apartment buildings surrounding Wrigley Field. It's possible to watch a Cubs game from the roof of some of those apartment buildings. The ball game isn't written by, filmed by, sewn by, etc a crew of thousands. There are umpires, grounds crew, ushers, food vendors, janitors, etc. plenty of workers at an MLB game. Would you enjoy people partaking of your work without paying for it? Would you enjoy paying for a defective TV or paying for bad service at a restaurant? MCU movies are really awful so MCU is really the ones stealing the audience's money by making awful products. You want to talk about stealing audience's money! How about anybody who pays for Cowboys playoff tickets in the last 20 years! That's flat out highway robbery!
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Dec 30, 2018 4:41:02 GMT
The stadium is in a residential neighborhood? Yes, there are apartment buildings surrounding Wrigley Field. It's possible to watch a Cubs game from the roof of some of those apartment buildings. The ball game isn't written by, filmed by, sewn by, etc a crew of thousands. There are umpires, grounds crew, ushers, food vendors, janitors, etc. plenty of workers at an MLB game. Would you enjoy people partaking of your work without paying for it? Would you enjoy paying for a defective TV or paying for bad service at a restaurant? MCU movies are really awful so MCU is really the ones stealing the audience's money by making awful products.If they were truly awful, audiences wouldn't keep flocking to the theaters to see them, now wouldn't they? That's why film series like Pirates of the Caribbean, Transformers, and the DCEU suffered tremendous decrease of interest last year, because THEY kept making awful products. Looks like the DCEU and Transformers may have won fans over though this year.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 30, 2018 13:59:38 GMT
Did you pay to see it so that the studio was recompensed in some manner for the thousands of crew members who worked on it? Stealing is stealing. No, it isn't. If someone lives across from Wrigley Field and they go up to their roof and watch a Cubs game from the roof of their building, that's not stealing. There's no law that says they can't go up to their roof and look across the street. Just because there's a ballgame going on across the street in Wrigley Field and he can see the ballgame from his roof without paying for a ticket to the ballgame doesn't make it stealing. Is DC-Fan still trying to justify his thievery? ... with a cockamamie comparison between watching a baseball game from a roof and watching a stolen copy of a movie on his computer? If you think this is funny, you should see the mental contortions he goes through to excuse a Dallas Cowboys coach who has vehemently defended the practice of filming the opponents signals from the sidelines, while explaining how the Cowboys use to do it when he was coach. DC-Fraud.
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Post by damngumby on Dec 30, 2018 14:18:41 GMT
You want to talk about stealing audience's money! How about anybody who pays for Cowboys playoff tickets in the last 20 years! That's flat out highway robbery!
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Post by merh on Dec 30, 2018 23:24:47 GMT
The stadium is in a residential neighborhood? Yes, there are apartment buildings surrounding Wrigley Field. It's possible to watch a Cubs game from the roof of some of those apartment buildings. The ball game isn't written by, filmed by, sewn by, etc a crew of thousands. There are umpires, grounds crew, ushers, food vendors, janitors, etc. plenty of workers at an MLB game. Outside of the players & the umpires, someone on the roof isn't impacting the vendors, janitors, etc. The film needed the grip, etc to be made. If you aren't in the park buying food & using the facilities, why should the grounds crew care? I lived directly behind a drive in for a couple years. I could look out the kitchen window & see the film just fine, but it was pointless without sound & a waste of time. Not the same at all I don't like mustard so I don't buy it. If you don't like Marvel, why steal the movies? They arent defective if someone else is enjoying it Your statement would be as stupid as if I said mustard is defective just because I don't like it. If there is a film I want to see, but not in the theater, I wait for it to hit the movie channels. I don't watch it online at a site I know has stolen versions of the film up. I work hard for my money. I expect to be paid for my work. I put in a certain amount of unpaid overtime to get the job done because I am looking forward to retiring in a couple years at full pay so I'm getting it back. I know that. I cannot justify stealing a movie just because I'm too cheap to pay for it. If it's not worth full price, go to the first show. I saw Aquaman in IMAX for $40 for 2 tickets on Christmas. I just got out of the morning showing with my sister I paid $15 for 2 tickets for the 2D regular version. If I didnt want to pay that, wait for HBO. Or wait for it to hit FX (or FXX). You are lying to yourself if you think it's not stealing. I look at how much a thing costs vs how much I get paid. Is Aquaman worth the $55 I've paid to see it? Yes. Just as Infinity war was because yeah, saw it twice.
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Post by kuatorises on Dec 31, 2018 2:37:57 GMT
Was it this guy's intention to kill his credibility?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Dec 31, 2018 4:43:43 GMT
I lived directly behind a drive in for a couple years. I could look out the kitchen window & see the film just fine, but it was pointless without sound & a waste of time.Not the same at allSo if he watches it with the sound off, it's okay then?
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Post by merh on Dec 31, 2018 7:39:00 GMT
I lived directly behind a drive in for a couple years. I could look out the kitchen window & see the film just fine, but it was pointless without sound & a waste of time.Not the same at allSo if he watches it with the sound off, it's okay then? This was when I was in High School. I realized it was pointless even though I was just a teen because one couldn't get the point of the movie & standing at the kitchen sink to watch a movie was stupid & pointless. So I figured that out when I was 15, but DC-FAN who is way past that age hasn't figured it out? At this same time, I worked as a concessions stand worker at the local walk-in theater. We weren't paid cash as it was a community theater. We were paid in free movie passes-6 per month as I recall. The theater only showed family films-G & PG movies the projectionist had previewed & found acceptable like Star Wars. It was easier to pop in when I was working, but because I was working, I couldn't watch the whole movie
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Post by merh on Dec 31, 2018 8:23:32 GMT
The stadium is in a residential neighborhood? Yes, there are apartment buildings surrounding Wrigley Field. It's possible to watch a Cubs game from the roof of some of those apartment buildings. The ball game isn't written by, filmed by, sewn by, etc a crew of thousands. There are umpires, grounds crew, ushers, food vendors, janitors, etc. plenty of workers at an MLB game. Would you enjoy people partaking of your work without paying for it? Would you enjoy paying for a defective TV or paying for bad service at a restaurant? MCU movies are really awful so MCU is really the ones stealing the audience's money by making awful products. The ballpark analogy also fails because one can watch the game on tv if it is being aired locally over the air. The analogy that fits what you are doing is it isn't being aired over the local channel for free so you somehow intercept the pay-per-view signal rather than pay for it. Meaning you steal the signal Watching a copy of a film on a website someone has illegally uploaded a copy to is still illegal because they lacked the right to upload a copy Because you COULD wait to see it on the movie channel if you subscribe or wait longer to see it on a cable channel if you have cable or over hulu/netflix/etc if you subscribe to those services. Watching a ball game from a roof gives one a very distant view meaning one must use binoculars (which are a pain) & listen on the radio for the play-by-play. It's like you live near a zoo & can see the elephants because they are big, but its not the same as paying to enter the zoo & see them right in front of you. You arent reading the signs or hearing what the tour guide says on the tour.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Dec 31, 2018 13:46:29 GMT
Well I guess that settles it, then.
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Post by kleinreturns on Jan 1, 2019 10:03:31 GMT
when you have a movie that is 100% cgi with no actual plot. Aquaman? or that crap Apocalypse.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 1, 2019 11:41:30 GMT
Apocalypse was not protected by the media and critics like infinity war. and its a less crappier film because it is not all cgi.
good thing after Apocalypse we got Logan.
poor mcu, they get worse each year. once any critic uses their brains they see how awful mcu is.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 1, 2019 12:25:19 GMT
Apocalypse was not protected by the media and critics like infinity war. and its a less crappier film because it is not all cgi.
good thing after Apocalypse we got Logan.
poor mcu, they get worse each year. once any critic uses their brains they see how awful mcu is.
Good reviews can't protect shit if audiences aren't invested. Look at the box office. Numbers DO NOT LIE!THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN and are voting with their wallets. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is KING and that ain't gonna change!
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Post by merh on Jan 5, 2019 23:46:19 GMT
Apocalypse was not protected by the media and critics like infinity war. and its a less crappier film because it is not all cgi.
good thing after Apocalypse we got Logan.
poor mcu, they get worse each year. once any critic uses their brains they see how awful mcu is.
Sorry. I found Logan extremely self indulgent
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