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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 29, 2018 23:24:42 GMT
Where would you go, NFL or the Oakland Athletics?
He received a $5 million bonus from the A's, who let him play FB this year. But no one could see him having this type of year. Do doubt, he probably has more of a future in baseball. He is undersized for an NFL Qb. If he's 5'11", I'm Tsar of All the Russias. He's 5'9" and that's not going to make it in the NFL. But there are more riches and certainly more glory as a starting quarterback than as an outfielder in the Midwest League, where he will be in spring of 2019. Go NFL and you run the risk of being mentioned in the same breath with Johnny Manziel. Run the risk of busting out and taking too much pounding on your knees to be even a Tim Tebow.
And don't say "both". You can do the Bo Jackson/Deion Sanders routine as a RB or as a DB, Not as a QB. Too much off field stuff to do to have a bat in your hand all summer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 23:33:24 GMT
Baseball would be an easy choice for me. He's more likely to make more money there unless he becomes a top level QB and I dont think he can do that. His height really hurts him. Sure Russ and Brees are short but not that short. If he fails in baseball he can always try and make a roster in the preseason but baseball should be the easy first choice imo.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Dec 29, 2018 23:43:26 GMT
Baseball would be an easy choice for me. He's more likely to make more money there unless he becomes a top level QB and I dont think he can do that. His height really hurts him. Sure Russ and Brees are short but not that short. If he fails in baseball he can always try and make a roster in the preseason but baseball should be the easy first choice imo. To my mind, the only advantage for the NFL is the fact that he will be in New York or Denver (hypothetical, teams that need a QB) instead of Beloit or Stockton.
He will have to make a decision well before the draft. If he's drafted in the 6th Round, or not at all, the decision is made. If he declares that he will play football, someone will waste a 1st or 2nd round pick on him.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Dec 29, 2018 23:48:09 GMT
A’s.
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Post by tristramshandy on Dec 30, 2018 2:09:26 GMT
Here are the ninth overall picks in the MLB draft since 2000:
2000 - Mark Phillips
2001 - Colt Griffin
2002 - Jeff Francis
2003 - John Danks
2004 - Chris Nelson
2005 - Mike Pelfrey
2006 - Bill Rowell
2007 - Jarrod Parker
2008 - Aaron Crow
2009 - Jacob Turner
2010 - Karsten Whitson
2011 - Javier Baez
2012 - Andrew Heaney
2013 - Austin Meadows
2014 - Jeff Hoffman
2015 - Ian Happ
2016 - Matt Manning
2017 - Keston Hiura
Baez is the only one who ever was an All-Star (obviously a lot of these guys are young and have chances). Young top ten picks in the MLB flame out often. You can make a great earning by being a back-up QB in the NFL. With Justin Herbert going back to college, he'd probably be a day two pick at worst. With the way that the NFL gives all the advantages to the offense, it's never been a better time to go in as a quarterback.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 10, 2019 3:29:35 GMT
The San Francisco Chronicle reports 2018 Heisman Trophy Winner and 2018 Oakland A's first-round draft pick Kyler Murray will enter the NFL draft.
In and of itself, entering the draft would not necessarily mean Murray was foregoing his baseball career, but A's beat writer Susan Slusser reports he would be expected to focus on football if he did so. Super agent Scott Boras had previously insisted that Murray planned to report to A's spring training next month. Now that appears to be up in the air. We will gain more information in the coming days. Were Murray to commit to football, he would have a shot at coming off the board on Day 1.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle Jan 9 - 10:14 PM
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Post by No_Socks_Here on Jan 10, 2019 12:15:20 GMT
I say both. He could be a Kordell Stewart/Slash-type player.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jan 10, 2019 19:44:58 GMT
This is going to be interesting. He got a $5,000,000 bonus to be at Oakland's training camp in one month. About the time the NFL combines start. He can't do both. The A's didn't cough up big bucks to watch his run countless 40 yard sprints. To my understanding, he got the bonus, the Athletics allowed him to play for the Sooners this year and he was to be in camp in February. Are the A's just going to kiss 5 million goodbye?
And he cannot do both. Not a quarterback.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jan 10, 2019 20:04:21 GMT
After thinking about it I would play golf. 🏌🏼♂️
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 10, 2019 20:08:16 GMT
This is going to be interesting. He got a $5,000,000 bonus to be at Oakland's training camp in one month. About the time the NFL combines start. He can't do both. The A's didn't cough up big bucks to watch his run countless 40 yard sprints. To my understanding, he got the bonus, the Athletics allowed him to play for the Sooners this year and he was to be in camp in February. Are the A's just going to kiss 5 million goodbye? And he cannot do both. Not a quarterback. If they need to fill a pre-season roster spot, I'd be happy to show up in camp for much less. At 41 I can't guarantee the same results as Murray, but I'll give it a go. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 20:10:24 GMT
A's could have used that $5 mil in good faith to feed a small homeless hungry community in Oakland.
Smart decision for the kid = Take the NFL gig.
Then when you get cut and it's over - you concentrate on baseball like Tebow.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 10, 2019 22:41:33 GMT
Good point I heard earlier today . . . in a league that is reducing the importance of speed (the A's had 35 steals last year as a team), his baseball skills are becoming less coveted. Meanwhile, smaller quarterbacks are becoming more accepted. If he gets drafted in the first four rounds in football, he's on the 53 man roster. In baseball, he's going to be playing for the Beloit Snappers this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2019 23:25:44 GMT
Good point I heard earlier today . . . in a league that is reducing the importance of speed (the A's had 35 steals last year as a team), his baseball skills are becoming less coveted. Meanwhile, smaller quarterbacks are becoming more accepted. If he gets drafted in the first four rounds in football, he's on the 53 man roster. In baseball, he's going to be playing for the Beloit Snappers this year. Wait! But I thought Lamar Jackson was going to be broken in half within one quarter and was the 2nd coming of RGIII!  |
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 10, 2019 23:59:31 GMT
Good point I heard earlier today . . . in a league that is reducing the importance of speed (the A's had 35 steals last year as a team), his baseball skills are becoming less coveted. Meanwhile, smaller quarterbacks are becoming more accepted. If he gets drafted in the first four rounds in football, he's on the 53 man roster. In baseball, he's going to be playing for the Beloit Snappers this year. Wait! But I thought Lamar Jackson was going to be broken in half within one quarter and was the 2nd coming of RGIII! What makes you think that Jackson is the answer in Baltimore? The negative yards passing through three quarters of his first playoff game? The thirteen fumbles he had in eight games? Right now he should hope he can get to the level of RGIII. Kyler Murray completed 69% of his passes his first year of being a college quarterback. Lamar Jackson got up to 59.1% in his third year of being a college quarterback. I wouldn't draft Kyler Murray - - but he'll be a first round pick. And his college stats say he has more of a chance of pro success than Lamar Jackson will have. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 0:05:10 GMT
Wait! But I thought Lamar Jackson was going to be broken in half within one quarter and was the 2nd coming of RGIII! What makes you think that Jackson is the answer in Baltimore? The negative yards passing through three quarters of his first playoff game? The thirteen fumbles he had in eight games? Right now he should hope he can get to the level of RGIII. Kyler Murray completed 69% of his passes his first year of being a college quarterback. Lamar Jackson got up to 59.1% in his third year of being a college quarterback. I wouldn't draft Kyler Murray - - but he'll be a first round pick. And his college stats say he has more of a chance of pro success than Lamar Jackson will have. wait - wasn't he like the youngest rookie to start a playoff game (I may be wrong) - and I noticed you didn't mention that ' last' quarter ...... and the whole point of my post was the 'expert pundits' had stated he'd be broken in half at QB in the NFL and couldn't possibly survive. I didn't see that. I saw a kid that came in and showed some guts, versatility and poise and led the Ravens to the playoffs.................. hey - I get your a steelers fan but there's no reason to hate on the kid Bub. |
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 11, 2019 16:17:56 GMT
What makes you think that Jackson is the answer in Baltimore? The negative yards passing through three quarters of his first playoff game? The thirteen fumbles he had in eight games? Right now he should hope he can get to the level of RGIII. Kyler Murray completed 69% of his passes his first year of being a college quarterback. Lamar Jackson got up to 59.1% in his third year of being a college quarterback. I wouldn't draft Kyler Murray - - but he'll be a first round pick. And his college stats say he has more of a chance of pro success than Lamar Jackson will have. wait - wasn't he like the youngest rookie to start a playoff game (I may be wrong) - and I noticed you didn't mention that ' last' quarter ...... and the whole point of my post was the 'expert pundits' had stated he'd be broken in half at QB in the NFL and couldn't possibly survive. I didn't see that. I saw a kid that came in and showed some guts, versatility and poise and led the Ravens to the playoffs.................. hey - I get your a steelers fan but there's no reason to hate on the kid Bub. The last quarter when the Chargers were playing prevent on his first TD? Yeah, I forgot that. RGIII made it through one year. Never did I say that he couldn't get through one year playing that way. But he isn't accurate. He's frickin' Kordell Stewart. Stewart was MORE accurate in college than he was. The rules make it easier for QBs to complete passes today, so he'll have that advantage, but I'm more than fine with the Ravens having him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 16:37:34 GMT
wait - wasn't he like the youngest rookie to start a playoff game (I may be wrong) - and I noticed you didn't mention that ' last' quarter ...... and the whole point of my post was the 'expert pundits' had stated he'd be broken in half at QB in the NFL and couldn't possibly survive. I didn't see that. I saw a kid that came in and showed some guts, versatility and poise and led the Ravens to the playoffs.................. hey - I get your a steelers fan but there's no reason to hate on the kid Bub. The last quarter when the Chargers were playing prevent on his first TD? Yeah, I forgot that. RGIII made it through one year. Never did I say that he couldn't get through one year playing that way. But he isn't accurate. He's frickin' Kordell Stewart. Stewart was MORE accurate in college than he was. The rules make it easier for QBs to complete passes today, so he'll have that advantage, but I'm more than fine with the Ravens having him. kid turned 22 4 days ago isn't accurate? granted he was initially labeled as a running QB at Louisville but made some strides even after winning the Heisman in his passing game - he was 'growing' and still is. just turned 22. he was drafted late in the 1st after winning the Heisman in a power Conference who played against the likes of Clemson and Fla State. he's a 'winner'. never received the appropriate respect coming out of college (like Watson) with the 'experts' stating he'd go in the 4th or 5th round. kid came in late season and showed some poise in my eyes - completion percentage of 58% - which isn't lighting the world on fire by any means - but is completing more than half of his passes for a rookie thrown to the wolves for a team fighting for a playoff spot late in the season - lets not forget dropped balls here and the talent of your receiving core - coming into play when considering completion %. poor kid just can't catch a break by the masses. I must be his only fan. |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jan 12, 2019 13:50:11 GMT
When is the NFL draft?
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jan 14, 2019 21:33:15 GMT
Tennis, anyone? 🎾
Think he is asking the A’s for more $.
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