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Post by captainbryce on Dec 31, 2018 3:34:24 GMT
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Post by clusium on Dec 31, 2018 4:48:49 GMT
There have been Africans who were Christian, centuries before there was slavery in the United States. |
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Post by clusium on Dec 31, 2018 4:51:04 GMT
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Post by goz on Dec 31, 2018 5:40:29 GMT
What a wonderful, sad and interesting thread.
As a non-American, it has always been one of the most interesting and emotional stories to me, about all those African people who were taken as slaves from Africa, unrooted from EVERYTHING and used and abused in THE most anti/un-Christian, appalling circumstances...words can't even say....
...and yet over time, Christianity became the emotional and pscyhological saviour of most African American slaves who had NOTHING, endured abuse beyond belief yet once they adopted a story that gave them 'HOPE' of maybe a better life in 'HEAVEN....it became endemic and special.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 31, 2018 5:59:45 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Dec 31, 2018 11:59:56 GMT
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Post by captainbryce on Dec 31, 2018 13:50:48 GMT
[There have been Africans who were Christian, centuries before there was slavery in the United States. That doesn’t really address African Americans though. Perhaps instead of “black” I should have used the phrase African American. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Dec 31, 2018 14:39:18 GMT
Two memes address black people and Christianity.
Is this how OP keeps winning arguments?
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Post by captainbryce on Dec 31, 2018 16:06:38 GMT
Two memes address black people and Christianity. Is this how OP keeps winning arguments? ^Triggered black Christian alert! |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Dec 31, 2018 16:50:28 GMT
That's actaully why Nation of Islam gained a following, a rejection of the "white man's" religion (Christianity) in favor of a more Native African religion (Islam). Though it's really more of a political movement than a religious one (I get the feeling a bunch of them don't actually legitametly believe in Islam)
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Post by captainbryce on Dec 31, 2018 17:13:17 GMT
That's actaully why Nation of Islam gained a following, a rejection of the "white man's" religion (Christianity) in favor of a more Native African religion (Islam). Though it's really more of a political movement than a religious one (I get the feeling a bunch of them don't actually legitametly believe in Islam) They’re not real Muslims. Most of them don’t know any Arabic, have only a rudimentary understanding of the Quran, and know little about the Prophet Muhammad and his history. I have a black friend named Malik who grew up in Chicago NOI. My white friend who actually lived in Egypt for years and spoke fluent Arabic tried to have a conversation with him about the Holy Quran in Arabic, and Malik didn’t know what he was saying. Even when Mike switched to English, Malik was clueless about Middle Eastern history or the teachings of the Prophet. He said he didn’t grow up learning that stuff, only about how the white devil has oppressed African Americans and forced the white religion onto them. So while I agree that the white man ultimately forced black Americans into false religion (Christianity), NOI is nothing more than a racist black cult with the name “Islam” in the title. About the only thing that makes them Muslim is their attire and the fact that they don’t eat pork. But many of them drink, curse, and do all sorts of things prohibited by the Quran. Real Muslims from the Middle East and Northern Africa would not consider them “Muslim” at all. |
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Post by heeeeey on Dec 31, 2018 17:45:06 GMT
What a wonderful, sad and interesting thread. As a non-American, it has always been one of the most interesting and emotional stories to me, about all those African people who were taken as slaves from Africa, unrooted from EVERYTHING and used and abused in THE most anti/un-Christian, appalling circumstances...words can't even say.... ...and yet over time, Christianity became the emotional and pscyhological saviour of most African American slaves who had NOTHING, endured abuse beyond belief yet once they adopted a story that gave them 'HOPE' of maybe a better life in 'HEAVEN....it became endemic and special. Too bad you're not as interested in why the Australian aborigines are treated like shit now in the 21st century. |
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Post by goz on Dec 31, 2018 19:45:06 GMT
What a wonderful, sad and interesting thread. As a non-American, it has always been one of the most interesting and emotional stories to me, about all those African people who were taken as slaves from Africa, unrooted from EVERYTHING and used and abused in THE most anti/un-Christian, appalling circumstances...words can't even say.... ...and yet over time, Christianity became the emotional and pscyhological saviour of most African American slaves who had NOTHING, endured abuse beyond belief yet once they adopted a story that gave them 'HOPE' of maybe a better life in 'HEAVEN....it became endemic and special. Too bad you're not as interested in why the Australian aborigines are treated like shit now in the 21st century. ...and you know my level of interest how? Evidence? |
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 31, 2018 20:00:23 GMT
lowtracks86
Never heard of Arabia, I guess.
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 31, 2018 20:04:54 GMT
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Post by clusium on Dec 31, 2018 21:23:24 GMT
That's actaully why Nation of Islam gained a following, a rejection of the "white man's" religion (Christianity) in favor of a more Native African religion (Islam). Though it's really more of a political movement than a religious one (I get the feeling a bunch of them don't actually legitametly believe in Islam) The irony there is, a)Muslims have enslaved Africans too, & b)even Islam is not the Native African religion. Africa was actually made up of HUNDREDS of native religions, such as Voodoo, Yoruba, etc. |
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Post by clusium on Dec 31, 2018 21:24:54 GMT
[There have been Africans who were Christian, centuries before there was slavery in the United States. That doesn’t really address African Americans though. Perhaps instead of “black” I should have used the phrase African American. True. But many Africans were already Christian, when they were forced into slavery in the USA & the Caribbean. |
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Post by captainbryce on Dec 31, 2018 22:19:54 GMT
That doesn’t really address African Americans though. Perhaps instead of “black” I should have used the phrase African American. True. But many Africans were already Christian, when they were forced into slavery in the USA & the Caribbean. Then slavery should have been a good indication to them that it was a false religion unworthy of embracing. |
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Dec 31, 2018 23:15:09 GMT
That's actaully why Nation of Islam gained a following, a rejection of the "white man's" religion (Christianity) in favor of a more Native African religion (Islam). Though it's really more of a political movement than a religious one (I get the feeling a bunch of them don't actually legitametly believe in Islam) The irony there is, a)Muslims have enslaved Africans too, & b)even Islam is not the Native African religion. Africa was actually made up of HUNDREDS of native religions, such as Voodoo, Yoruba, etc. Voodoo is not an African religion. |
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Post by maya55555 on Dec 31, 2018 23:44:28 GMT
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