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Post by Arlon10 on Jan 1, 2019 17:28:29 GMT
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 1, 2019 18:33:28 GMT
Please tell me you’re not this retarded. Do you really think ^this qualifies as a proper defense against the Bible endorsing slavery when it flat out says it’s okay to own slaves? It doesn't condone slavery!!! The Holy Bible makes it quite clear that we are all children of the Heavenly Father, and thereby should treat one another with dignity!!!! Dignity apparently includes owning people for life and beating them as long as they don't die within a day. Biblical morality: |
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 1, 2019 19:44:47 GMT
bryce
Read this: The Talmud Unmasked: The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians - [Memorial Edition to Honor a Great Lithuanian.]
Justinas Bonaventuras Pranaitis / I. B. Pranaitis, Robert Alan Balaicius
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Jan 1, 2019 23:13:29 GMT
I guess that in your world being in any way accurate isn't important. But you do have 3k posts that kinda prove that don't you? |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jan 1, 2019 23:57:10 GMT
I guess that in your world being in any way accurate isn't important. But you do have 3k posts that kinda prove that don't you? Your simplicity is not the "accuracy" you imagine it to be. |
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Post by clusium on Jan 2, 2019 1:19:48 GMT
It doesn't condone slavery!!! The Holy Bible makes it quite clear that we are all children of the Heavenly Father, and thereby should treat one another with dignity!!!! Dignity apparently includes owning people for life and beating them as long as they don't die within a day. Biblical morality: Yes, & as I already posted to you in another thread, the slave had the option of staying or leave his/her master, something that was not an option in Babylon, & probably not in the USA either. |
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Post by clusium on Jan 2, 2019 1:22:43 GMT
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 2, 2019 3:29:26 GMT
Yes, & as I already posted to you in another thread, the slave had the option of staying or leave his/her master, something that was not an option in Babylon, & probably not in the USA either. Yes, and as I replied to you in that thread...NO HE FUCKING DIDN’T! And even if he had, that doesn’t demonstrate that provisions that allow humans to own other humans are moral. The passages above clearly endorse slavery, which you denied.  |
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 2, 2019 3:30:26 GMT
bryce
Read this: The Talmud Unmasked: The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians - [Memorial Edition to Honor a Great Lithuanian.]
Justinas Bonaventuras Pranaitis / I. B. Pranaitis, Robert Alan Balaicius
To what end? |
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Post by clusium on Jan 2, 2019 4:37:18 GMT
Yes, & as I already posted to you in another thread, the slave had the option of staying or leave his/her master, something that was not an option in Babylon, & probably not in the USA either. Yes, and as I replied to you in that thread...NO HE FUCKING DIDN’T! And even if he had, that doesn’t demonstrate that provisions that allow humans to own other humans are moral. The passages above clearly endorse slavery, which you denied. Because Exodus ITSELF is one big condemnation of slavery!!!! |
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 2, 2019 4:58:45 GMT
captainbryce
Education. The reason will be self evident, when you read it.
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 2, 2019 14:43:49 GMT
Yes, and as I replied to you in that thread...NO HE FUCKING DIDN’T! And even if he had, that doesn’t demonstrate that provisions that allow humans to own other humans are moral. The passages above clearly endorse slavery, which you denied. Because Exodus ITSELF is one big condemnation of slavery!!!! Sorry, but that is just false! At no point anywhere in the entire bible (to include the book of Exodus) is slavery as an institution EVER once denounced or condemned by God. So this is just a false assertion demonstrating a complete ignorance of what it actually says. |
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 2, 2019 14:47:51 GMT
captainbryce
Education. The reason will be self evident, when you read it. Reading religious propaganda and/or apologetic does not qualify as "education". You know what qualifies as education? History (including biblical history) - of which I am quite versed in. And it is self-evident upon achieving a certain level of education and logical application of such knowledge that the bible condones slavery. |
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 2, 2019 14:51:40 GMT
cpt.bryce
This text is a part of cultural history. I am not interested in your educational levels.
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Post by clusium on Jan 2, 2019 15:15:41 GMT
Because Exodus ITSELF is one big condemnation of slavery!!!! Sorry, but that is just false! At no point anywhere in the entire bible (to include the book of Exodus) is slavery as an institution EVER once denounced or condemned by God. So this is just a false assertion demonstrating a complete ignorance of what it actually says. Then you haven't been paying attention to what happened in the Book of Exodus. God Reigned down plague after plague on the Egyptians for their holding the Children of Israel in Bondage. God Condemns it right then & there!!!!! |
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Post by goz on Jan 2, 2019 19:36:06 GMT
Sorry, but that is just false! At no point anywhere in the entire bible (to include the book of Exodus) is slavery as an institution EVER once denounced or condemned by God. So this is just a false assertion demonstrating a complete ignorance of what it actually says. Then you haven't been paying attention to what happened in the Book of Exodus. God Reigned down plague after plague on the Egyptians for their holding the Children of Israel in Bondage. God Condemns it right then & there!!!!! The cherries you picked to claim this are delicious this time of year in my country! |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 2, 2019 19:50:00 GMT
Once again the topic is not strong enough to support itself lol.
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Post by clusium on Jan 2, 2019 20:02:30 GMT
Then you haven't been paying attention to what happened in the Book of Exodus. God Reigned down plague after plague on the Egyptians for their holding the Children of Israel in Bondage. God Condemns it right then & there!!!!! The cherries you picked to claim this are delicious this time of year in my country! I'm really glad to hear it!!!!!  |
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Post by goz on Jan 3, 2019 0:01:37 GMT
Once again the topic is not strong enough to support itself lol. I agree that the topic is very broad, and Captain Bryce himself said he should/could have qualified it to mean African American slaves, however I think that there are definite points being made that black African American slaves 1. Had little choice in their choice of religion, having been uprooted from friend family and their own 'religion'. 2. Over time it became their greatest comfort, so it is natural that their 'conversion' passed down the generations, in one form or another. |
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 3, 2019 15:04:03 GMT
Sorry, but that is just false! At no point anywhere in the entire bible (to include the book of Exodus) is slavery as an institution EVER once denounced or condemned by God. So this is just a false assertion demonstrating a complete ignorance of what it actually says. Then you haven't been paying attention to what happened in the Book of Exodus. God Reigned down plague after plague on the Egyptians for their holding the Children of Israel in Bondage. God Condemns it right then & there!!!!! The key words are highlighted! The plages were a demonstration/incintive/punishment towards the Egyptians for holding God’s people as slaves, not a provision against slavery as an institution. God didn’t want the Hebrews to be enslaved by other nations. He had no problem with people of other nations to be enslaved by the Hebrews. And he was also cool with Hebrews enslaving other Hebrews in certain circumstances. Again, read the entire book of Exodus! Your problem is you just decided to stop at chapter 14 thinking that cherry picking only the beginning of Exodus counted as a comprehensive position on slavery; it doesn’t. Because God goes on to give laws about how to own slaves AFTER the Hebrews came out of slavery. He also expands on these laws in Leviticus in such a way that categorically disproves your assertion that condemnation of the Hebrew people being enslaved applies to all slavery. The obvious implication is that while Hebrew slaves are not to be treated ruthlessly, slaves of other nations can be. And while Hebrew slaves must be let go after the year of Jubilee (unless their master tricks them into having a wife and kid, in which case their pierce their ear and get to own them for life), non Hebrew slaves can always be owned for life and passed down to children as property. And by the way, the allowance for slaves to go free after Jubilee only applies to male slaves. Female slaves are still owned by the master. And female slaves were for sex! So you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about in this regard and you really need to go back and read the Bible again. |
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