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Post by Skaathar on Jan 2, 2019 9:12:12 GMT
Nolan made 3 superhero movies featuring Batman: BB, TDK and TDKR. The Russo's also made 3 superhero movies featuring Captain America: CA:TWS, CA:CW and A:IW.
Question is who made the better overall 3-piece movie series?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 2, 2019 9:33:20 GMT
Nolan made 3 superhero movies featuring Batman: BB, TDK and TDKR. The Russo's also made 3 superhero movies featuring Captain America: CA:TWS, CA:CW and A:IW. A:IW is an Avengers movie, not a Captain America movie. CA:TFA is the 1st Captain America movie. Did you intentionally leave off CA:TFA because you know CA:TFA is so awful that the 3 Captain America movies can't compare with the 3 TDK movies?
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jan 2, 2019 9:46:06 GMT
Nolan made 3 superhero movies featuring Batman: BB, TDK and TDKR. The Russo's also made 3 superhero movies featuring Captain America: CA:TWS, CA:CW and A:IW. A:IW is an Avengers movie, not a Captain America movie. CA:TFA is the 1st Captain America movie. Did you intentionally leave off CA:TFA because you know CA:TFA is so awful that the 3 Captain America movies can't compare with the 3 TDK movies? I think he left it off because the Russo's didn't direct The First Avenger. But yeah, TFA is definitely one my lowest tier Marvel films.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jan 2, 2019 9:59:27 GMT
Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are phenomenal. But I truly don't find any enjoyment from The Dark Knight Rises.
I definitely consider The Winter Soldier and Infinity War as the top tier of the MCU. Probably their top two. But I wasn't a huge fan of Civil War the way everybody else was. I loved the airport scenes but found problems with the rest of it.
So this is a tough call for me. Hmm.
After some thought, I'm going to have to go with Nolan. I love the Russo's and everything they've done in the MCU, but the very fact that it's part of a shared universe makes the films not as cohesive as a trilogy.
Are we doing Raimi trilogy vs Snyder trilogy next?
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 2, 2019 10:36:15 GMT
Nolan made 3 superhero movies featuring Batman: BB, TDK and TDKR. The Russo's also made 3 superhero movies featuring Captain America: CA:TWS, CA:CW and A:IW. A:IW is an Avengers movie, not a Captain America movie. CA:TFA is the 1st Captain America movie. Did you intentionally leave off CA:TFA because you know CA:TFA is so awful that the 3 Captain America movies can't compare with the 3 TDK movies? Why, did the Russo's direct CATFA? Who said I was doing a Captain America trilogy? In case you couldn't read, I was doing a Russo trilogy.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jan 2, 2019 10:54:24 GMT
Nolan. Because he directed an actual trilogy.
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Post by miike80 on Jan 2, 2019 11:02:49 GMT
Nolan made 3 superhero movies featuring Batman: BB, TDK and TDKR. The Russo's also made 3 superhero movies featuring Captain America: CA:TWS, CA:CW and A:IW. A:IW is an Avengers movie, not a Captain America movie. CA:TFA is the 1st Captain America movie. Did you intentionally leave off CA:TFA because you know CA:TFA is so awful that the 3 Captain America movies can't compare with the 3 TDK movies? To be fair, as awful as you say it is it's still better than anything DCEU besides WW
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 2, 2019 11:09:09 GMT
It's not a valid or fair comparison.
- The Russo films, except for being in the same clobber-verse, do not have a continued narrative theme that would make them a trilogy. TWS is a Cap solo film clobbering Hydra. CA:CW is really an Aveners film about them clobbering and spliting up. Infinity War is a film about clobbering an alien invasion. - Nolan's TDK is about Batman's rise, fall and legacy, and a lot of clobbering.
Nolan is and probably always will be the most-lauded CBM trilogy based on cinematic achievement and narrative content. I mean it's mostly ranked next to Godfather, Star War or LotR - and it defended its high place in the popular charts over the years. Which is a sign of being a bona fide classic.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jan 2, 2019 13:24:05 GMT
It's not a valid or fair comparison. - The Russo films, except for being in the same clobber-verse, do not have a continued narrative theme that would make them a trilogy. TWS is a Cap solo film clobbering Hydra. CA:CW is really an Aveners film about them clobbering and spliting up. Infinity War is a film about clobbering an alien invasion. - Nolan's TDK is about Batman's rise, fall and legacy, and a lot of clobbering. Nolan is and probably always will be the most-lauded CBM trilogy based on cinematic achievement and narrative content. I mean it's mostly ranked next to Godfather, Star War or LotR - and it defended its high place in the popular charts over the years. Which is a sign of being a bona fide classic. I actually agree. The Russo's do not have a true trilogy so it does not count. I actually think comparing these six films is a pretty good debate. I like them in this order:
The Winter Soldier The Dark Knight Batman Begins Infinity War Civil War The Dark Knight Rises
But all of these films are good and among the best Comic Book films, but, as you said, the Russo one is not really a trilogy.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 2, 2019 13:47:01 GMT
A:IW is an Avengers movie, not a Captain America movie. CA:TFA is the 1st Captain America movie. Did you intentionally leave off CA:TFA because you know CA:TFA is so awful that the 3 Captain America movies can't compare with the 3 TDK movies? Why, did the Russo's direct CATFA? Who said I was doing a Captain America trilogy? In case you couldn't read, I was doing a Russo trilogy. Wow. Anyone who doubts DC Fan is legitimately a moron instead of just a troll needs to appreciate this post.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 2, 2019 13:49:10 GMT
I had to go Russos for the simple fact that as great as BB and TDK are, TDKR is unwatchable garbage. Nolan should've Alan Smitheed that shit.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 2, 2019 13:59:44 GMT
Nolans trilogy obviously. Even if you replaced BB and TDKR with suicide squad and Batman & Robin, that would still win because it has TDK in it which carries.
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Post by James on Jan 2, 2019 14:44:00 GMT
Nolan made 3 superhero movies featuring Batman: BB, TDK and TDKR. The Russo's also made 3 superhero movies featuring Captain America: CA:TWS, CA:CW and A:IW. A:IW is an Avengers movie, not a Captain America movie. CA:TFA is the 1st Captain America movie. Did you intentionally leave off CA:TFA because you know CA:TFA is so awful that the 3 Captain America movies can't compare with the 3 TDK movies? Because CA:TFA wasn’t directed by the Russo’s, read the title of the article before you make any assumptions, c**t bag.
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Post by James on Jan 2, 2019 14:47:22 GMT
Gonna go with the Russo’s.
While TDK is better than all 3 of the Russos’ movies, BB and TDKR aren’t as good as any of them. I rank all 6 films like this:
TDK - 8.5/10 A:IW - 8.5/10 CA:CW - 8/10 CA:TWS - 8/10 TDKR - 7.5/10 BB - 7.5/10
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 2, 2019 15:02:38 GMT
It's not a valid or fair comparison. - The Russo films, except for being in the same clobber-verse, do not have a continued narrative theme that would make them a trilogy. TWS is a Cap solo film clobbering Hydra. CA:CW is really an Aveners film about them clobbering and spliting up. Infinity War is a film about clobbering an alien invasion. - Nolan's TDK is about Batman's rise, fall and legacy, and a lot of clobbering. Nolan is and probably always will be the most-lauded CBM trilogy based on cinematic achievement and narrative content. I mean it's mostly ranked next to Godfather, Star War or LotR - and it defended its high place in the popular charts over the years. Which is a sign of being a bona fide classic. I actually agree. The Russo's do not have a true trilogy so it does not count. I actually think comparing these six films is a pretty good debate. I like them in this order:
The Winter Soldier The Dark Knight Batman Begins Infinity War Civil War The Dark Knight Rises
But all of these films are good and among the best Comic Book films, but, as you said, the Russo one is not really a trilogy.
No it's not a trilogy, that's why I never use the word "trilogy" except in the title. I only used it in the title because it was easier than to write 3-piece interconnected movies.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 2, 2019 15:13:35 GMT
I actually agree. The Russo's do not have a true trilogy so it does not count. I actually think comparing these six films is a pretty good debate. I like them in this order:
The Winter Soldier The Dark Knight Batman Begins Infinity War Civil War The Dark Knight Rises
But all of these films are good and among the best Comic Book films, but, as you said, the Russo one is not really a trilogy.
No it's not a trilogy, that's why I never use the word "trilogy" except in the title. I only used it in the title because it was easier than to write 3-piece interconnected movies. It should also be noted that what the Russos have done is more difficult, because they have less creative control of the overarching plotline. They're writing chapters is someone else's book, whereas Nolan essentially had carte blanche with his trilogy. Of course Nolan also deserves enormous credit for resurrecting a franchise thought dead after the Schumacher debacle of the 90s, and forcing people to take CBMs seriously. I agree with Tristan that it's not a fair comparison. Both franchises had different goals. Nolan wanted to take a grittier (and that word became a cliché, that's how successful Nolan was) approach to superhero fare. To try to place a 'superhero' in the real world (at least, as much as you can). Whereas the MCU is embracing the nature of comic books wholeheartedly. Nolan's Batfilms were supposed to be crime drama standalones in a gritty world, whereas the MCU films are full blown popcorn CBM extravaganzas. They really are completely different animals, and thus hard to rank side by side.
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Post by sostie on Jan 2, 2019 15:27:29 GMT
I can't deny how great DK is, and I might be one of the few people who rates DKR nearly as highly (or higher depending on my mood) as DK. Begins is very good too,
But the three Russo films I think I prefer overall. Winter Soldier was a real pleasant surprise, Civil War fulfilled the fanboy in me (it features 2 of my all time fave CBM moments) and Infinity War was for me like no other blockbuster, whether you think it's good or bad, it is a benchmark in the genre. They are two(three) different directors but both have really made some special films in the genre.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 2, 2019 15:32:21 GMT
The Russo's win and it's not even close. All 3 of their movies are better than all 3 Nolan movies. Batman Begins is the best Nolan movie but The Russo movies are all better.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 2, 2019 17:17:18 GMT
TDK trilogy. Aside from loving the hell out of them (and liking TDKR just fine) Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were such huge game changers for the genre (and blockbusters in general) so I'd give the edge to Nolan.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 2, 2019 17:28:45 GMT
Nolan, easily.
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