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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jan 2, 2019 20:59:19 GMT
I doubt it.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 2, 2019 21:03:22 GMT
If he shows up, I'm walking out. I'll probably piss all over the people in front of me in protest. always remember, it is better to get pissed off, than it is to get pissed on.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 2, 2019 21:13:27 GMT
If he shows up, I'm walking out. I'll probably piss all over the people in front of me in protest. always remember, it is better to get pissed off, than it is to get pissed on. I'll keep that in mind, lol.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 2, 2019 21:47:05 GMT
While I do admit that would be awesome, I do feel that it would be a bad idea, and that it will inevitably do more harm than good.
If Wolverine will indeed appear on Endgame, it shouldn't be Jackman.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 2, 2019 22:46:34 GMT
While I do admit that would be awesome, I do feel that it would be a bad idea, and that it will inevitably do more harm than good. If Wolverine will indeed appear on Endgame, it shouldn't be Jackman. agreed, especially if they plan on using the character again they could just show him from behind, then cast anyone they want later on
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 2, 2019 23:00:48 GMT
i'm sure many will disagree, but if they return from time travel, or split off into a parallel universe ( or whatever ) i think that would be the perfect time to see that the Fantastic Four and the X-Men have suddenly popped into existence, no other explanation would be needed!
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 2, 2019 23:05:56 GMT
The only way I could think a cameo could work would be the Quantum Jumping through the Multiverse theory on how they are going to fight Thanos and try to rewrite the Decimation. (There is a scene with the Ancient One is showing Strange the multiverse that looks like the scenes in Antman and the Wasp Quantum Tunneling scene.) Now if The Avengers look through different Earths looking for some Macguffin before they jump to different dimensions they could get away with a small cameo of seeing other Earth's in the Multiverse. If they flash different versions of earth along one could have Hugh Jackman fighting as Wolverine as if you blink you miss it type of cameo.
I'm not a proponent of actually having that cameo, but I don't think if it's something benign and quick as that I don't see it being any better or worse than other cameos Fox and Marvel have done in the past.
I don't think the cameo if it happens should set up the X-men as sadly Hugh has just gotten to old and it's best to leave the Fox Universe as is. I never really wanted the two blended. And having a more substantial scene would cement in the general populations mind that the two Universes will be blended together. I think their should be a hard delineation between the two. Not just for protecting the previous X-men universe. Which I do want to a degree, but to also to protect the MCU X-men when they finally come.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 3, 2019 14:52:24 GMT
wolverine's cameo in first class was a major plot point. in dofp when he comes back xavier reminds wolverine that he once came to him for help and wolverine did not help so why should he Xavier help wolverine now after all these years? aka the artistry is in story telling of how both characters lives have intertwine over the years.
thought I wont expect you to understand seeing your garbage attempts to always spin the wheel to defend childish mcu movies that has no real story telling or plot.
Also to say fox makes it about wolverine and the xmen. at least wolverine grew as a character to iron man and friends where iron man has never gone past his first movie.
First of all that's not my opinion that Fox turned it inot Wolverine and the X-men. I was guessing hobowars. I have no problem with Fox including Wolverine in the majority of the movies. He's the fan favorite of the IP they control. Of course they are going to put him in when they can. It's great business. Artistically, they usually had solid reasons. My point was Fox included camoes, and easter eggs that served no artistic merit. His cameo had no point in First Class until it was reconned in the next movie. In fact, including Wolverine's cameo was a last minute chaotic edition. It served no artistic inclusion, but just to get a laugh. What Artistic Merit did having him in Apocalypse show? Wolverine went from a surly loner to a team player who cared about family. There is no doubt his character grew. Lets look at Ironman. Selfish Cocky Playboy always thinking about himself and what's good for him. By Avengers he was willing to sacrifice himself by taking the Nuclear Weapon into the portal, something Tony from Ironman 1 wouldn't do. Even Cap warned him that's a one way trip. He got lucky and fell back through. Through Ironman 3, Age of Ultron CW HC and IW we see a less confident man riddled with guilt about what he's done and worried about if he's good enough to protect the ones he loves. Including a specific loved one giving up on his playboy ways wanting children. A man who is still harboring doubt and questioning decision after decision. Just because he still quips and is sarcastic as he always was doesn't mean he's still the same person. That's just my opinion. Nothing anybody can say can sway yours. You are set. lets look at iron man for real. after his first movie marvel realised he was the poster boy for money and to sell toys and for that reason to told writers and directors to play him dumb. tony has been tony since iron man 1 because Disney factually limited him. that is fact. go check out what iron man 2 and 3 could have been. what you said is meaningless. all the traits he had in iron man 1 are still there. he has not grown. the mediocre story telling wont let him please done equate wolverine to iron man. wolverine's jackman is the definition of a great marvel character from the classic comic. iron man is the definition of toy commercials. Even RDJ said playing the role was getting embarrassing because RDJ knew how limited the role became. hm, maybe if iron man was allowed to have the same growth and story arc of Xavier in DOFP as originally pplanned before Disney banned it for kids. I will take Iron man seriously.
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Post by merh on Jan 3, 2019 16:37:20 GMT
If its not an internet error, has anyone considered end credit bit pitching their X-Men?
Or, considering he has said he is done playing Wolverine, he might be someone else?
I mean, Steve Rogers was Johnny Storm. At his age, Jackman could be Mr Fantastic or hell, Professor X.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jan 3, 2019 18:58:52 GMT
If it happens and that's a big if. The same amount of artistry that was defined in Wolverine's Cameo in First Class and Apocalypse. (and if the scheduling worked out Wolverine's cameo in DeadPool, that almost happened) wolverine's cameo in first class was a major plot point. in dofp when he comes back xavier reminds wolverine that he once came to him for help and wolverine did not help so why should he Xavier help wolverine now after all these years? aka the artistry is in story telling of how both characters lives have intertwine over the years.
thought I wont expect you to understand seeing your garbage attempts to always spin the wheel to defend childish mcu movies that has no real story telling or plot.
Also to say fox makes it about wolverine and the xmen. at least wolverine grew as a character to iron man and friends where iron man has never gone past his first movie.
It's said we're born ignorant but we have to work hard to remain stupid. You exceed at that. DoFP was barely in the planning stages when First Class was being filmed. The Wolverine cameo was just for an Easter egg, for shits and giggles because it's the fucking Wolverine. But then they retconned it for DoFP to make that brief connection between him and Charles. But it's hardly an artistic choice and just Fox trying to be edgy and cool and use swear words like the F-bomb to show how mature they think they are.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 3, 2019 20:02:31 GMT
Fox trying to be edgy and cool and use swear words like the F-bomb to show how mature they think they are. Indeed. Disney are too cowardly to use it so not to upset the plethora of small children at their showings. Finally a MCU fan admits the bleeding obvious!
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Post by bud47 on Jan 3, 2019 20:36:39 GMT
Fox trying to be edgy and cool and use swear words like the F-bomb to show how mature they think they are. Indeed. Disney are too cowardly to use it so not to upset the plethora of small children at their showings. Finally a MCU fan admits the bleeding obvious! Any time the F-bomb is used in an Fox-Men movie, it comes off as forced and awkward as hell and that's because we all know why it's put there in the first place and it's not for artistic purposes. With Logan it's even more jarring, we have a Wolverine who's suddenly discovered how to curse like a sailor after 17 years. The only movies where it feels natural are the Deadpool films and if you're trying to equate maturity with cursing, you couldn't pick worse examples. And let's not forget, it took Fox 11 years to put the F-bomb in an X-Men film and it was played for laughs.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 3, 2019 21:57:21 GMT
Indeed. Disney are too cowardly to use it so not to upset the plethora of small children at their showings. Finally a MCU fan admits the bleeding obvious! Any time the F-bomb is used in an Fox-Men movie, it comes off as forced and awkward as hell and that's because we all know why it's put there in the first place and it's not for artistic purposes. With Logan it's even more jarring, we have a Wolverine who's suddenly discovered how to curse like a sailor after 17 years. The only movies where it feels natural are the Deadpool films and if you're trying to equate maturity with cursing, you couldn't pick worse examples. And let's not forget, it took Fox 11 years to put the F-bomb in an X-Men film and it was played for laughs. Doesnt matter it took em 11 years (he called Cyclops a dick in X1). And you are missing the point entirely. The profanity fits within his character profile and Fox arent afraid to hide it. Together with his cigar smoking and violent claw slashing, even in PG13 movies, can you say with confidence Disney is gonna allow all of that? We already know the answer is no, because they have very strict guidelines which cater to certain audience members. Instead of dick, theyl be using lame substitutes like turds, zuchinnis and penis Parker jokes. They wont allow him to smoke. They will neuter his claw slashing too. But as long as he wears his bright yellow spandex right?
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Post by bud47 on Jan 3, 2019 22:48:38 GMT
Any time the F-bomb is used in an Fox-Men movie, it comes off as forced and awkward as hell and that's because we all know why it's put there in the first place and it's not for artistic purposes. With Logan it's even more jarring, we have a Wolverine who's suddenly discovered how to curse like a sailor after 17 years. The only movies where it feels natural are the Deadpool films and if you're trying to equate maturity with cursing, you couldn't pick worse examples. And let's not forget, it took Fox 11 years to put the F-bomb in an X-Men film and it was played for laughs. Doesnt matter it took em 11 years (he called Cyclops a dick in X1). And you are missing the point entirely. The profanity fits within his character profile and Fox arent afraid to hide it. Together with his cigar smoking and violent claw slashing, even in PG13 movies, can you say with confidence Disney is gonna allow all of that? We already know the answer is no, because they have very strict guidelines which cater to certain audience members. Instead of dick, theyl be using lame substitutes like turds, zuchinnis and penis Parker jokes. They wont allow him to smoke. They will neuter his claw slashing too. But as long as he wears his bright yellow spandex right? Ooooh, he called Cyclops a dick in X1! Put a bar of soap in his mouth! I thought we were talking strictly about the use of the f-bomb. Take that away and there's just as much profanity and cursing in the MCU films as there is in the Dark Knight Trilogy, the DCEU and the Fox-Men films (until '11). Are you saying Nolan is a coward and catering to children too for not having more profanity in his films? Seems like his dark, mature, grounded Batman films would have been the perfect place to drop a few, don't you? Seeing as how that's so important to you. I'm sure they'll allow Wolverine to smoke a cigar here and there, just as they allow Stark to drink alcohol. If not, it's no big loss. It would be a minor gripe. How often did he even have a cigar in the Fox films beyond a couple of scenes anyway? And I'm sure he'll be using his claws the same way they used them in the PG-13 Fox-Men films. Do you expect him to just stand around? If they tone it down a little, it wouldn't bother me. I'm happy as long as he uses them. Black Panther used his claws.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 3, 2019 23:49:57 GMT
Doesnt matter it took em 11 years (he called Cyclops a dick in X1). And you are missing the point entirely. The profanity fits within his character profile and Fox arent afraid to hide it. Together with his cigar smoking and violent claw slashing, even in PG13 movies, can you say with confidence Disney is gonna allow all of that? We already know the answer is no, because they have very strict guidelines which cater to certain audience members. Instead of dick, theyl be using lame substitutes like turds, zuchinnis and penis Parker jokes. They wont allow him to smoke. They will neuter his claw slashing too. But as long as he wears his bright yellow spandex right? Ooooh, he called Cyclops a dick in X1! Put a bar of soap in his mouth! I thought we were talking strictly about the use of the f-bomb. Take that away and there's just as much profanity and cursing in the MCU films as there is in the Dark Knight Trilogy, the DCEU and the Fox-Men films (until '11). Are you saying Nolan is a coward and catering to children too for not having more profanity in his films? Seems like his dark, mature, grounded Batman films would have been the perfect place to drop a few, don't you? Seeing as how that's so important to you. I'm sure they'll allow Wolverine to smoke a cigar here and there, just as they allow Stark to drink alcohol. If not, it's no big loss. It would be a minor gripe. How often did he even have a cigar in the Fox films beyond a couple of scenes anyway? And I'm sure he'll be using his claws the same way they used them in the PG-13 Fox-Men films. Do you expect him to just stand around? If they tone it down a little, it wouldn't bother me. I'm happy as long as he uses them. Black Panther used his claws. Better saying dick than hide the zucchini and penis parker or other lame jokes like that. Nolan didnt need to use profanity in any of his characters they didnt need it in their characters. Wolverine smoked alot in x2 x3. Smoking is on disneys banned list so doubt well see it. Black panther never used his claws to sinch into enemies with any ferocity. They wont show wolverine like his alkali breakout or mansion attack.
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