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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 4, 2019 22:01:13 GMT
Thanos says he wants to wipe out half the population because of resources are limited. But when Thanos had captured Gamora and Starlord had his gun pointed at them and Gamora told Starlord to kill her, Starlord fired and Thanos used the Reality Stone to make Starlord's gun shoot harmless bubbles. Then when Gamora realized that Thanos was going to sacrifice her for the Soul Stone, Gamora tried to stab herself but Thanos again used the Reality Stone to turn Gamora's knife into harmless bubbles.
So if the Reality Stone is already so powerful, then:
1. Why the fuck did Thanos even need the remaining stones?
2. Why the fuck didn't Thanos just use the Reality Stone to double the amount of resources. Then that would eliminate the problem without having to wipe out half the universe. Moreover, we know that the Earth's population doubles in about 50 years so wiping out half the population is nothing more than a temporary solution and doesn't solve the permanent problem of limited resources anyway. So why the fuck would Thanos come up with such a lame plan that's just a temporary solution and doesn't solve the permanent problem?
Also, Wakanda is protected by an invisible, impenetrable force field so Thanos' army can't get inside Wakanda, but T'Challa just orders the wall opened to let Thanos' army inside. That's the dumbest military decision since King Priam ordered the Trojans to take the horse inside the city walls.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 4, 2019 22:23:26 GMT
The reality stone alone doesn't have a permanent effect.
As for Thanos plan, it's flawed but the dude isn't completely sane. He's obviously mentally ill if he's willing to murder his own daughter.
Doubleing resources still doesn't fix the real issue, but that's an controversial topic on it's own.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 4, 2019 22:26:38 GMT
Thanos motivation is as clumsy as it it fallacious.
If you have interstellar travel and breathable atmosphere you have de facto unlimited resources and real estate for population growth. The problem would be deflation of value as you get mountains of gold, platinum, carbon diamond and any element on the periodic table from oxygen to the heavies.
Also, even without the ability to travel between worlds (like on Earth), the whole motivation is a misconception.
This is about shooting ball-sacks of a chin out of a face, nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 22:35:48 GMT
It's not permanent but it sure makes a dent in the problem that would last a really long time. Longer than many creatures and species could possibly have the lifespan to see. There's only so many beings in the universe that could possibly live long enough to see this exact problem rise again, and in theory, if Thanos is still around, he can just do it again.
I also think there's a moral complexity in the plan. Or at least the plan to undo Thanos' plan. Is it the plan? Are whoever is left of the Avengers trying to defeat Thanos because since they failed to defend the earth, they'll avenge it? Or are they trying to find a way to bring everybody back? Because that also has complications. Undoing his plan and bringing everybody back to life puts the universe in the same situation as before with the population outpacing the resources. Not to mention all the grief and mourning people did, just to have all their dead families and friends come back? The longer they wait, the longer the universe will become used to what it's become since the snap. So is it a moral plan to try to bring everyone back? Some tough calls to make.
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Post by poutinep on Jan 4, 2019 23:07:38 GMT
Double resources is a stupid idea - that would increase the mass of planets so much it would change gravity and thus change planets' orbits.
The reality stone is OK for some trickery but he didn't kill anyone with it. Drax and Mantis recovered in about a minute. Turning a weapon's discharge into bubbles is not the same as killing trillions of people across the universe now is it?
Everything you say is stupid.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 4, 2019 23:30:55 GMT
Double resources is a stupid idea - that would increase the mass of planets so much it would change gravity and thus change planets' orbits.  not in this universe, Einstein. Ever heard of the fifth law of thermodynamics? You know, madness is like gravity all it takes is a little push. yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope  |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 4, 2019 23:43:30 GMT
Thanos motivation is as clumsy as it it fallacious. If you have interstellar travel and breathable atmosphere you have de facto unlimited resources and real estate for population growth. The problem would be deflation of value as you get mountains of gold, platinum, carbon diamond and any element on the periodic table from oxygen to the heavies. Also, even without the ability to travel between worlds (like on Earth), the whole motivation is a misconception. This is about shooting ball-sacks of a chin out of a face, nothing else. We shouldn't be surprised that Thanos is a moron who came up with a moronic plan. After all, Thanos had a henchman who was defeated by a silly dance-off. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 4, 2019 23:46:16 GMT
I also think there's a moral complexity in the plan. Or at least the plan to undo Thanos' plan. Is it the plan? Are whoever is left of the Avengers trying to defeat Thanos because since they failed to defend the earth, they'll avenge it? Or are they trying to find a way to bring everybody back? Because that also has complications. Undoing his plan and bringing everybody back to life puts the universe in the same situation as before with the population outpacing the resources. Not to mention all the grief and mourning people did, just to have all their dead families and friends come back? The longer they wait, the longer the universe will become used to what it's become since the snap. So is it a moral plan to try to bring everyone back? Some tough calls to make.
Good point. What about all the children born after the snap occurred? If the Avengers just reverse time and reset everything to the way it was before the snap, then those children born after the snap will no longer exist. So the Avengers would be making an intentional choice to kill all those children. Basically, the Avengers would be playing God and deciding who lives (their friends) and who dies (all the children born after the snap). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 23:50:35 GMT
I also think there's a moral complexity in the plan. Or at least the plan to undo Thanos' plan. Is it the plan? Are whoever is left of the Avengers trying to defeat Thanos because since they failed to defend the earth, they'll avenge it? Or are they trying to find a way to bring everybody back? Because that also has complications. Undoing his plan and bringing everybody back to life puts the universe in the same situation as before with the population outpacing the resources. Not to mention all the grief and mourning people did, just to have all their dead families and friends come back? The longer they wait, the longer the universe will become used to what it's become since the snap. So is it a moral plan to try to bring everyone back? Some tough calls to make.
Good point. What about all the children born after the snap occurred. If the Avengers just reverse time and reset everything to the way it was before the snap, then those children born after the snap will no longer exist. So the Avengers would be making an intentional choice to kill all those children. Basically, the Avengers would be playing God and deciding who lives (their friends) and who dies (all the children born after the snap). Yeah. It's a legit conundrum. |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 4, 2019 23:52:56 GMT
Thanos motivation is as clumsy as it it fallacious. If you have interstellar travel and breathable atmosphere you have de facto unlimited resources and real estate for population growth. The problem would be deflation of value as you get mountains of gold, platinum, carbon diamond and any element on the periodic table from oxygen to the heavies. Also, even without the ability to travel between worlds (like on Earth), the whole motivation is a misconception. We shouldn't be surprised that Thanos is a moron who came up with a moronic plan. After all, Thanos had a henchman who was defeated by a silly dance-off. Thanos is there as plot device so that the heroes can emote, reunite and shoot off his ball sack of a chin in the end. Speaking of silly dance off, did you see the epic dance fight between Aqua vs Guardians Vo1. Must see: imdb2.freeforums.net/post/2451625/thread |
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Post by damngumby on Jan 5, 2019 1:28:55 GMT
So if the Reality Stone is already so powerful So powerful that it could turn stuff into ... bubbles. Did you just make the leap from creating bubbles to being capable of doubling the resources of the entire universe? Are you fucking retarded? Wiping out half the population was just the first step. Obviously, population control would be part of a follow up plan. Did that sail completely over your head? I don’t think you know what “impenetrable” means, cupcake. The Thanos army was able to get through before the wall was opened. Controlling the point of entry was a wise move. Something you know absolutely nothing about. Another FAIL thread by the dumbest poster on this forum, Always Wrong. |
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jan 5, 2019 1:40:16 GMT
No it ain't. You're just too dumb to comprehend it. We finally get a villain that isn't about conquering the world/universe and just had a simple goal and Marvel subverted everyone's expectations and the villain won and achieved that goal and you're just butthurt and jealous that Justice League couldn't even remotely measure up with Steppenwolf.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 1:49:19 GMT
No it ain't. You're just too dumb to comprehend it. We finally get a villain that isn't about conquering the world/universe and just had a simple goal and Marvel subverted everyone's expectations and the villain won and achieved that goal and you're just butthurt and jealous that Justice League couldn't even remotely measure up with Steppenwolf. Thanos is just another lame MCU villain with a lame and moronic plan. "Gee, I think I'll solve the resource problem by wiping out half the population even thought that won't solve the problem because: 1. In about 50 years or so, the population will double again, putting the status quo back to where it is. 2. Something which MCU fans won't understand because this is too complicated for them to understand, but my plan to kill half of ALL life in the universe means that I'll also kill half of all animals and plant life in the universe so there's even less food source for higher animals to eat, which means instead of solving the problem, I'll create an ever bigger resource problem by eliminating more resources. But MCU fans will still think my moronic plan is still a genius plan." |
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Post by charzhino on Jan 5, 2019 2:06:16 GMT
It is indeed a flawed plan and it isnt easy writing the infinity gaunlet because it can literally do/not do anything the plot demands.
They should have stuck with his original motive from the comic and have him try to please Mistress Death with influence from Mephisto, by progressively doing evil actions until he wiped out half the universe.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 5, 2019 2:38:04 GMT
I'll also kill half of all animals and plant life in the universe Half of the trees in the jungle didn’t turn to dust when Thanos snapped his fingers, so you’re wrong again, Always Wrong! |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 5, 2019 2:48:58 GMT
I wasn't a big fan of the comic motivation.
Not sure what a good motivation you could give Thanks that didn't involve Genocide or love.
Maybe ridding the universe of fanboys?
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Post by damngumby on Jan 5, 2019 2:52:29 GMT
It is indeed a flawed plan The plan worked. Thanos successfully reduced the consumption of resources by half. Only a complete moron would think that is the end of his intentions to maintain balance in the universe. Why do DC fans come to the MCU board to be stupid? |
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Post by damngumby on Jan 5, 2019 3:01:56 GMT
Good point. What about all the children born after the snap occurred. If the Avengers just reverse time and reset everything to the way it was before the snap, then those children born after the snap will no longer exist. So the Avengers would be making an intentional choice to kill all those children. Basically, the Avengers would be playing God and deciding who lives (their friends) and who dies (all the children born after the snap). Yeah. It's a legit conundrum. If time reversal is the solution in IW2 then any children born after the snap will revert to the fetal state they were in prior to the snap. They will just get born a second time. No harm, no foul. Always Wrong is batting zero tonight! |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 3:15:30 GMT
I'll also kill half of all animals and plant life in the universe Half of the trees in the jungle didn’t turn to dust when Thanos snapped his fingers, so you’re wrong again, Always Wrong! Yes, they did. Thanos says half of ALL life in the universe. That includes people as well as trees, like Groot. Just because they didn't show trees turn to dust doesn't mean it didn't happen. They didn't show 3.5 billion humans turn to dust, but we know that 3.5 billion humans, as well as half of ALL plants and animals turned to dust. And since humans are near the top of the food chain and eat plants and animals to survive, that means Thanos not only wiped out 3.5 billion humans but also cut down the food supply for the remaining 3.5 billion humans, which would result in an even bigger resource problem for the remaining 3.5 billion humans. So Thanos's moronic plan not only doesn't solve the resource problem but actually makes the resource problem even worse by eliminating half of the food source for the people who survived the snap. That's why Thanos has to be 1 of the worst villains in CBM history. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 3:18:11 GMT
It is indeed a flawed plan The plan worked. Thanos successfully reduced the consumption of resources by half. |
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