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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 17:50:28 GMT
It's well-known that everyone who was turned to dust in Infinity War will be brought back alive in Endgame. But depending on how many years have past between Infinity War and Endgame, if the Avengers jsut rest everything back to the way it was before the snap, then the Avengers will be child-killers.
Consider this scenario:
Harry is married to Sally. Both are in their mid-40s so Sally is too old to have any more children. Sally turns to dust in the snap. Later Harry hooks up with his former girlfriend Suzy and marries Suzy. Suzy is much younger than Sally so Suzy is able to have a child with Harry.
Then the Avengers reset everything back to the way it was before the snap. Harry is still married to Sally. Sally still can't have children. And since Sally doesn't turn to dust, Harry and Sally stay together and Harry never marries Suzy.
So Harry and Suzy's child who was conceived and born after the snap will never be born. Same with all the other children who will be conceived and born AFTER the snap. They'll never be born and cease to exist at all. All because the Avengers decided to play God and decide who lives (their friends) and who dies (children who were conceived and born AFTER the snap).
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 5, 2019 17:57:17 GMT
But if they did nothing you'll just complain about them not doing anything.
Also we don't really know what the post snap world looks like. It's possible that civilization could have collapsed, depending on who was wiped from existence.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 17:59:18 GMT
It's well-known that everyone who was turned to dust in Infinity War will be brought back alive in Endgame. But depending on how many years have past between Infinity War and Endgame, if the Avengers jsut rest everything back to the way it was before the snap, then the Avengers will be child-killers. Consider this scenario: Harry is married to Sally. Both are in their mid-40s so Sally is too old to have any more children. Sally turns to dust in the snap. Later Harry hooks up with his former girlfriend Suzy and marries Suzy. Suzy is much younger than Sally so Suzy is able to have a child with Harry. Then the Avengers reset everything back to the way it was before the snap. Harry is still married to Sally. Sally still can't have children. And since Sally doesn't turn to dust, Harry and Sally stay together and Harry never marries Suzy. So Harry and Suzy's child who was conceived and born after the snap will never be born. Same with all the other children who will be conceived and born AFTER the snap. They'll never be born and cease to exist at all. All because the Avengers decided to play God and decide who lives (their friends) and who dies (children who were conceived and born AFTER the snap). Gonna love discussing future films that involve time travel with you when you have to defend your own arguments. Here's an idea, play out both sides of this one so you are better prepared.
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Post by poutinep on Jan 5, 2019 18:07:17 GMT
Trillions of intelligent lifeforms got dusted. How many fetuses from your dumbass scenario will get unconceived in the given timeframe? a few dozen? just another ridiculous bad faith argument from the master of bad faith arguments. keep trollin. btw what's this site where you legally watch new theatrical releases? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ??
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Post by sostie on Jan 5, 2019 18:14:11 GMT
It's well-known that everyone who was turned to dust in Infinity War will be brought back alive in Endgame. No it isn't I'll consider it when you consider this. Harry and Sally walking near a dam when suddenly an earthquake strikes. The dam breaks and Harry & Sally are drowned. But Superman then goes back in time and prevents the dam from bursting. A year later Harry and Sally have an argument over whether someone deflated a football in some cruddy sport. They break up. Harry goes out to a bar and drinks too much. On the drive home he collides with a car driven by a girl called Suzy. Suzy dies. Suzy had originally survived the quake, but now that she has been killed she will never marry and have children, one of whom will find the cure for cancer.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 18:19:25 GMT
Trillions of intelligent lifeforms got dusted. How many fetuses from your dumbass scenario will get unconceived in the given timeframe? a few dozen? More than a dozen. The most recent UNICEF estimate is an average of 353,000 babies born each day. So depending on how much time passes between Infinity War and Endgame, it could be 10.5 million babies in 1 month or 127 million babies in 1 year or several hundred million babies if longer. The Avengers will literally be playing God, deciding who lives (their friends) and who dies (possibly hundreds of millions of children or more who were conceived and born after the snap and who will never be born and cease to exist if the Avengers just reset everything back to the way it was before the snap).
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 5, 2019 18:24:32 GMT
By the way, If anyone played "God" it was Thanos.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 5, 2019 18:28:59 GMT
You think women in their late 40s cannot have children?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 18:29:29 GMT
Wow I guess Marty McFly is a child killer too!! Think of all of Biff's illegitimate children he had when he was rich and famous that Marty wiped out of existence when he put everything back!!!
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Post by poutinep on Jan 5, 2019 18:50:31 GMT
Trillions of intelligent lifeforms got dusted. How many fetuses from your dumbass scenario will get unconceived in the given timeframe? a few dozen? More than a dozen. The most recent UNICEF estimate is an average of 353,000 babies born each day. So depending on how much time passes between Infinity War and Endgame, it could be 10.5 million babies in 1 month or 127 million babies in 1 year or several hundred million babies if longer. The Avengers will literally be playing God, deciding who lives (their friends) and who dies (possibly hundreds of millions of children or more who were conceived and born after the snap and who will never be born and cease to exist if the Avengers just reset everything back to the way it was before the snap). Born each day and conceived specifically in the aftermath of The Decimation aren't comparable though. In your stupid Harry/Sally/Suzy scenario, Suzy only gets knocked up because Sally got dusted. Your UNICEF figure is irrelevant.
You also have no idea on the timeframe. How long between Sally getting dusted and Suzy getting pregnant? If it's greater than the time it takes for the Avengers to do whatever they're doing, your scenario is moot.
oh yeah The Avengers are only interesting in saving their friends....the fact that trillions of non-Avengers got dusted certainly isn't a factor in their motivation to undo The Decimation!
You fail, again.
Where do you allegedly watch new theatrical releases online legally? Why won't you just name the site if it's legit?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 19:05:28 GMT
Wow I guess Marty McFly is a child killer too!! Think of all of Biff's illegitimate children he had when he was rich and famous that Marty wiped out of existence when he put everything back!!! No, because that was an alternate reality timeline. 2015 took the almanac and gave it to 1955 Biff, which created the alternate reality timeline. Marty restored the real timeline. In Infinity War, the snap isn't an alternate reality timeline. It's the real timeline. So any children conceived and born after the snap are part of the real timeline.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 5, 2019 19:05:28 GMT
But if they did nothing you'll just complain about them not doing anything.Also we don't really know what the post snap world looks like. It's possible that civilization could have collapsed, depending on who was wiped from existence. This sums up DC-Fan perfectly, I didn't even read what he said and I know this is true.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 19:20:28 GMT
Wow I guess Marty McFly is a child killer too!! Think of all of Biff's illegitimate children he had when he was rich and famous that Marty wiped out of existence when he put everything back!!! No, because that was an alternate reality timeline. 2015 took the almanac and gave it to 1955 Biff, which created the alternate reality timeline. Marty restored the real timeline. In Infinity War, the snap isn't an alternate reality timeline. It's the real timeline. So any children conceived and born after the snap are part of the real timeline. Lol so alternate realities have less rights to exist than the ones you call the real timelines??? Who made you God to determine which timeline is "real"? Is the entire Donner Superman timeline post turning the clock back an "alternate"? How many other stories have ended with everyone on the "alternate"? Alternate timeline lives matter!!
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Post by poutinep on Jan 5, 2019 19:25:49 GMT
Wow I guess Marty McFly is a child killer too!! Think of all of Biff's illegitimate children he had when he was rich and famous that Marty wiped out of existence when he put everything back!!! No, because that was an alternate reality timeline. 2015 took the almanac and gave it to 1955 Biff, which created the alternate reality timeline. Marty restored the real timeline. In Infinity War, the snap isn't an alternate reality timeline. It's the real timeline. So any children conceived and born after the snap are part of the real timeline. and if they do use time travel to undo the snap, then the timeline where the snap occurred will become an alternate reality timeline. you're whining and you don't know enough details about the plot to justify the whine.
Even IF what you're claiming is the situation (and we all know you argue shit you don't really believe due to your biases), it's still better to undo a few fetuses to save trillions. Hauntedknight is right that you'd just complain about them doing nothing.
What would you do post-snap if you were Cap? 'Oh well, we lost, let's just live with it, undoing everything would be unfair to the relatively few babies that will be born due to the change in circumstances.' ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by skribb on Jan 5, 2019 19:45:44 GMT
btw what's this site where you legally watch new theatrical releases? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?? the cinema
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 19:49:50 GMT
No, because that was an alternate reality timeline. 2015 took the almanac and gave it to 1955 Biff, which created the alternate reality timeline. Marty restored the real timeline. In Infinity War, the snap isn't an alternate reality timeline. It's the real timeline. So any children conceived and born after the snap are part of the real timeline. it's still better to undo a few fetuses
It isn't just a few fetuses. Like I said in a previous post, the most recent UNICEF estimate is 335,000 babies born each day. So depending on how much time has passed between Infinity War and Endgame, it could be hundreds of millions of children. Not fetuses, but living children. All who will be erased from existence forever because the Avengers want to play God and decide who lives (all of their friends) and who dies (all of the children conceived and born after the snap).
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Post by poutinep on Jan 5, 2019 20:12:49 GMT
it's still better to undo a few fetuses
It isn't just a few fetuses. Like I said in a previous post, the most recent UNICEF estimate is 335,000 babies born each day. So depending on how much time has passed between Infinity War and Endgame, it could be hundreds of millions of children. Not fetuses, but living children. All who will be erased from existence forever because the Avengers want to play God and decide who lives (all of their friends) and who dies (all of the children conceived and born after the snap). I already explained why that UNICEF figure is irrelevant to your stupid Harry/Sally/Suzy scenario and that they're saving more than just their friends. Pay attention. If you have to choose between saving 'hundreds of millions of children' or half the universe....which do you pick? You're 'playing god' either way because you're still responsible for your inactions. Where do you legally watch new movies online when they're still in the theatre?
btw what's this site where you legally watch new theatrical releases? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) ?? the cinema No he has previously claimed to watch new movies online while they're still in the theatre. I forget if he ever said if it was free or not... but still, he refuses to name the site because there is no site and he watches them illegally despite frequently attacking people for what he perceives as stealing or cheating etc. he's just a lying hypocritical thief.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 5, 2019 20:32:48 GMT
It's well-known that everyone who was turned to dust in Infinity War will be brought back alive in Endgame. But depending on how many years have past between Infinity War and Endgame, if the Avengers just reset everything back to the way it was before the snap, then the Avengers will be child-killers. No, because "if the Avengers just reset everything" then there will be twice as many people making twice as many babies. Simple math. Try it some time.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 20:59:56 GMT
It isn't just a few fetuses. Like I said in a previous post, the most recent UNICEF estimate is 335,000 babies born each day. So depending on how much time has passed between Infinity War and Endgame, it could be hundreds of millions of children. Not fetuses, but living children. All who will be erased from existence forever because the Avengers want to play God and decide who lives (all of their friends) and who dies (all of the children conceived and born after the snap). You're 'playing god' either way because you're still responsible for your inactions No, you're not. In 1 case, you're actively causing hundreds of millions of children to be wiped from existence forever by going back and reversing time and thus creating an alternate reality timeline in which those hundreds of millions of children will never exist. In the other case, you're just letting the real timeline continue on.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 5, 2019 21:03:07 GMT
It's well-known that everyone who was turned to dust in Infinity War will be brought back alive in Endgame. But depending on how many years have past between Infinity War and Endgame, if the Avengers just reset everything back to the way it was before the snap, then the Avengers will be child-killers. No, because "if the Avengers just reset everything" then there will be twice as many people making twice as many babies. But those souls won't be the same as the hundreds of millions of souls who will be permanently erased from existence because the Avengers want to play God and decide who lives (all their friends) and who dies (all children conceived and born after the snap). So no matter how many new babies are born after the reset, it still doesn't replace the hundreds of millions of souls who will be permanently erased from existence by the actions of the Avengers.
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