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Post by movieliker on Jan 8, 2019 20:39:06 GMT
I disagree. Many "good" coaches have tried and failed. "Great" coaches win championships.
great/good whatever...
There have been some good if not great coaches out there that never won one.
Check out this list...
They are different words for a reason. Great is superior to good.
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Post by stickman38 on Jan 8, 2019 20:44:14 GMT
great/good whatever...
There have been some good if not great coaches out there that never won one.
Check out this list...
They are different words for a reason. Great is superior to good.
split hairs all you want. that is an impressive list of coaches that never won a SB.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 8, 2019 20:45:41 GMT
They are different words for a reason. Great is superior to good.
split hairs all you want. that is an impressive list of coaches that never won a SB.
I would rather have a great coach who wins championships. Instead of just a good coach who wins a lot of games, but no championships.
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Post by stickman38 on Jan 8, 2019 20:49:43 GMT
split hairs all you want. that is an impressive list of coaches that never won a SB.
I would rather have a great coach who wins championships. Instead of just a good coach who wins a lot of games, but no championships.
Yep that's true... but you never know who's going to be that next coach that wins one. Hell, a lot of coaches that do win one don't do shit for the rest of their careers. Mike Tomlin and Mike Holmgren are good examples....
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 8, 2019 21:06:08 GMT
Except for Jon Gruden. There was nothing great about his βaccomplishment.β I disagree. He won a Super Bowl. Put Andy Reid on that same team, and I bet the Bucs don't win. That actually could be true that Andy may not have won with that squad. The reason Jon did is he went against his former team withbTony Dungyβs squad.
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Post by stickman38 on Jan 8, 2019 21:09:43 GMT
anyway.. getting back to Chiefs/Colts.
Chiefs are a 5.5 point favorite right now. O/U is 57.
I would take the under to be honest.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 8, 2019 21:22:40 GMT
I know the goal is to win a SB. That is the ultimate definition of success in the NFL but let's not punch people in the stomach because we think they're "losers" if they don't win one. Many great coaches have tried and failed.
I disagree. Many "good" coaches have tried and failed. "Great" coaches win championships. I disagree. Winning a Super Bowl doesn't automatically make a coach "great" just like winning a Super Bowl doesn't automatically make a QB "great" (e.g. Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer). Heck, Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl and he's not a "great" coach. I would rather have Andy Reid as coach than Barry Switzer.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 8, 2019 21:25:01 GMT
anyway.. getting back to Chiefs/Colts. Chiefs are a 5.5 point favorite right now. O/U is 57. I would take the under to be honest. I have Chiefs 35, Colts 28 so I'm taking the over.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 8, 2019 21:27:42 GMT
I disagree. Many "good" coaches have tried and failed. "Great" coaches win championships. I disagree. Winning a Super Bowl doesn't automatically make a coach "great" just like winning a Super Bowl doesn't automatically make a QB "great" (e.g. Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer). Heck, Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl and he's not a "great" coach. I would rather have Andy Reid as coach than Barry Switzer. Winning a Super Bowl does not automatically make a coach great, but not winning a Super Bowl does automatically make him not great. Good or very good maybe but not great.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 9, 2019 1:42:50 GMT
I would rather have a great coach who wins championships. Instead of just a good coach who wins a lot of games, but no championships.
Yep that's true... but you never know who's going to be that next coach that wins one. Hell, a lot of coaches that do win one don't do shit for the rest of their careers. Mike Tomlin and Mike Holmgren are good examples....
That's true. But I am not talking about flash in the pan coaches or players. I am talking about consistent winners who win big games and in the post season.
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Post by movieliker on Jan 9, 2019 1:53:41 GMT
I disagree. Many "good" coaches have tried and failed. "Great" coaches win championships. I disagree. Winning a Super Bowl doesn't automatically make a coach "great" just like winning a Super Bowl doesn't automatically make a QB "great" (e.g. Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer). Heck, Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl and he's not a "great" coach. I would rather have Andy Reid as coach than Barry Switzer. I never said it automatically makes one a great coach. You need to be consistent winner too.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Jan 9, 2019 19:49:26 GMT
Please God let it be the Chiefs. The last thing the world needs is yet another Patriots/ Colts AFC Championship game.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jan 10, 2019 16:25:02 GMT
Manning is 2-2 in Super Bowls. And unlike Brady, all of Manning's Super Bowl wins are legitimate wins earned without any cheating. ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/10YDcM18KiVPO0/giphy.gif) It's 5 now though.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 10, 2019 22:31:36 GMT
Manning is 2-2 in Super Bowls. And unlike Brady, all of Manning's Super Bowl wins are legitimate wins earned without any cheating. ![](https://media.giphy.com/media/10YDcM18KiVPO0/giphy.gif) It's 5 now though. And it still doesn't change the fact that they're tainted by cheating.
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Post by shadyvsesham on Jan 11, 2019 2:25:09 GMT
![](https://media.giphy.com/media/10YDcM18KiVPO0/giphy.gif) It's 5 now though. And it still doesn't change the fact that they're tainted by cheating. Show me the asterisk my man.
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Jan 12, 2019 15:49:03 GMT
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Post by stickman38 on Jan 12, 2019 16:02:36 GMT
Just saw on ESPN pregame show, its snowing in KC. That's gotta help the Chiefs. Still taking the under though....
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Post by nutsberryfarm π on Jan 12, 2019 16:10:07 GMT
Just saw on ESPN pregame show, its snowing in KC. That's gotta help the Chiefs. Still taking the under though.... Snow! Yes! βοΈ βοΈ
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 12, 2019 16:18:19 GMT
Just saw on ESPN pregame show, its snowing in KC. That's gotta help the Chiefs. Still taking the under though.... I think it helps the Colts - - better defense, better run game.
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Post by damngumby on Jan 12, 2019 17:31:34 GMT
And it still doesn't change the fact that they're tainted by cheating. Show me the asterisk my man. How DC-Fan sees the Patriots βasterisksβ ![](https://i-download.imgflip.com/2r010c.gif)
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