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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jan 7, 2019 17:23:02 GMT
Have you encountered this phenomena? Not trying to sound like a cinema snob but I don't quite understand it. I heard someone talking about Dr. Strangelove and when finding it was not in color, just flatly refused to ever watch it.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jan 7, 2019 17:26:36 GMT
I've met a few actually, and dismissed them as idiots.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 7, 2019 19:32:05 GMT
Why does it bother you?
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jan 7, 2019 19:37:33 GMT
Why do you care? This is a serious question. I don't care either way of someone else's viewing choices but just struck me as odd and also all the classic movies they are denying themselves.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 7, 2019 19:42:00 GMT
Why do you care? This is a serious question. I don't care either way of someone else's viewing choices but just struck me as odd and also all the classic movies they are denying themselves. They are so use to movies being in color and are so close minded that it is extremely off putting to watch a movie that is in black and white. I think it is that simple.
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Post by jcush on Jan 7, 2019 19:44:19 GMT
I don't care either way of someone else's viewing choices but just struck me as odd and also all the classic movies they are denying themselves. They are so use to movies being in color and are so close minded that it is extremely off putting to watch a movie that is in black and white. I think it is that simple. A friend of mine said that black and white movies make him tired.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 7, 2019 19:45:35 GMT
They are so use to movies being in color and are so close minded that it is extremely off putting to watch a movie that is in black and white. I think it is that simple. A friend of mine said that black and white movies make him tired.Interesting.
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Post by _ on Jan 7, 2019 19:51:42 GMT
People are entitled to their own preferences.
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Post by kevin on Jan 7, 2019 19:58:40 GMT
I've met people who don't like B&W movies, but as long as they don't constantly tell me how much they hate B&W movies (which they luckily don't do) I don't really care if they don't watch them. I have a group of friends who also love movies and they all do watch B&W movies. I consider B&W just a different aesthetic like animation or colour and it has to possibility to focus on specific details of a movie, especially shadows and lighting. I watched Roma & Cold War last year, 2 B&W movies from 2018, and I really liked how they used the medium to focus on the aspects I mentioned. Cold War's use of lighting was very beautiful to look at. Definitely recommend it, especially if you're a fan of cinematography like me.
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Post by Marv on Jan 7, 2019 20:11:03 GMT
Yea but I can at least understand it. They’ve probably seen some old dated black and whites and lost a taste for em so now the idea of sitting down to watch one doesn’t appeal.
Same as people who refuse whole genres.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 7, 2019 20:14:02 GMT
I can't recall meeting anyone specifically saying that. I'd imagine some "casual" filmgoers maybe thinking that, saying it looks "old" or "unrealistic". I guess its just what they're used to and we all have our preferences.
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Post by vegalyra on Jan 7, 2019 20:22:21 GMT
My small circle of friends that are into film have no problem with black and white (in fact some prefer it), but I remember in high school in particular quite a few friends would never watch anything black and white.
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Post by skribb on Jan 7, 2019 21:54:45 GMT
black and white is usually associated with old movies
old movies are dumb as hell
but some are really good and i'll watch em anyway
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 7, 2019 22:22:50 GMT
Have you encountered this phenomena? Not trying to sound like a cinema snob but I don't quite understand it. I heard someone talking about Dr. Strangelove and when finding it was not in color, just flatly refused to ever watch it.
No, you are not a snob. A film snob is a person who has a very narrow view of what constitutes watchable movies and shows contempt for all other kinds films and the people who like them. I have found that 98% (or higher) of classic movie lovers are also very familiar with modern films and enjoy them as well. It is the person who will only see modern movies who is the snob because they make color an absolute requirement for their moviegoing. Ironically, they also apply the "snob" label to cineastes with wide ranging interests, not realizing that the word really applies to them because of their narrow requirements. Witness the dude on this thread who says "old movies are dumb as hell."  Now THAT is film snobbery. I call it The Cult Of The Modern.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jan 7, 2019 23:32:56 GMT
Have you encountered this phenomenon? Not trying to sound like a cinema snob but I don't quite understand it. I heard someone talking about Dr. Strangelove and when finding it was not in color, just flatly refused to ever watch it.
No, you are not a snob. A film snob is a person who has a very narrow view of what constitutes watchable movies and shows contempt for all other kinds films and the people who like them. I have found that 98% (or higher) of classic movie lovers are also very familiar with modern films and enjoy them as well.
It is the person who will only see modern movies who is the snob because they make color an absolute requirement for their moviegoing. Ironically, they also apply the "snob" label to cineastes with wide-ranging interests, not realizing that the word really applies to them because of their narrow requirements. Witness the dude on this thread who says "old movies are dumb as hell." 
Now THAT is film snobbery. I call it The Cult Of The Modern. The people who REFUSE to watch black and white films JUST BECAUSE they're black and white films ARE the TRUE film SNOBS!!
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jan 7, 2019 23:57:14 GMT
I knew a girl who wouldn't watch them, but she was definitely intelligent. Used to read psychology and the like for fun.
As for myself, I do watch black and white movies from time to time and there are some that I love, but I generally prefer my movies to be in full colour. Adds a sense of realism to the proceedings, whereas b&w produces a distancing effect.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jan 8, 2019 0:50:07 GMT
whereas b&w produces a distancing effect. You say that like it's a bad thing 
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 8, 2019 1:04:14 GMT
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Post by plasma on Jan 8, 2019 1:07:22 GMT
Oh yes plenty of people. Mostly it's the younger crowd who can't appreciate an older film. It honestly annoys me to no end. It's super disrespectful and shows a lack of ignorance, it's old, so it must be slow and boring. Sorry that's not how it works.
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Post by mslo79 on Jan 8, 2019 4:47:04 GMT
While I don't refuse to see movies because they are black-and-white, as a small amount of black-and-white movies are of higher quality, I do tend to notice that black-and-white movies tend to be mostly pre-1960's and as a general guideline for me I usually avoid watching pre-1960's movies because they tend to be a bit too different compared to more modern standards as they, in general, lack something that modern movies have (I can't quite say exactly what that is but it's partially emotion etc). but the only black-and-white movies I have seen so far of any real worth (i.e. that I score a 7 or higher) are... 1)The Hustler (1961) - 9/10 (within my Top 21 movies) -)Angel-A (2005) 3)Nebraska (2013) - 7.5-8/10 (within my Top 102 movies) 4)The Artist and the Model (2012-2013) - 7-7.5/10 (not much outside of my Top 102 movies) 5)The Song of Bernadette (1943) - 7/10 (within my Top 188 movies) although only two of those are more old days black-and-white which is what I think people generally refer to when they think "black-and-white movie". plasma I am not surprised as when you think of the stereotype who want nothing but action/explosions/super hero movies and the like, you tend to think that crowd (which I would assume is the really young crowd (call it teens, maybe 20's, and younger)) is not going to be watching slightly older movies (lets say movies older than about 10-30 years ago or so) let alone the really old movies (lets say roughly pre-1960's which is pretty much where the black-and-white movies are more common). but I guess in their defense... black-and-white does suck some life out of a typical movie vs color. so I think that's probably why a lot of those types automatically write off black-and-white movies as crap. but at that point I think you can't really do much and have to let time pass as if they are more into movies any length of time, as they get a bit older, they might start venturing into a wider range of movies etc. darkreviewer2013 Yeah, because color ads more life to movies as a general rule. sure, there can be occasions where black-and-white works, or works well enough, but it's natural for people to prefer color over black-and-white in general.
I can understand why some people write off certain types of movies because after a while you generally know what movies have potential to stand out from the pack and which ones are quite unlikely to output anything of any real worth.
I am sure there are certain movies etc ill straight up avoid to.
I don't know how you came to that conclusion(?) as I would see that viewer as more of the mainstream viewer and I think it's more difficult for them to be a film snob than someone more into movies who might see their views as above the common person etc. I am sure you get the gist 
plus, someone more into movies might be a bit more likely to watch stuff more off the radar to and in that regard once someone's taste in movies gets too far away from the common person, then their opinion on a movie would be worth less to the common person because of it. it's okay to like what you like, but, obviously, if you ain't got much in common with a typical movie viewer that's generally going to be more of a bad thing.
p.s. for the record... I see my taste in movies as at least semi-mainstream, if not mainstream-ish, because I feel once you get too far off the radar, or off the mainstream, movies of any real worth tend to start declining. although going off the mainstream some, you can still find a fair amount of solid movies.
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