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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 21:57:23 GMT
It doesn't seem like He would experience emotions if He is all-knowing.
Beings experience emotion upon the discovery of new information.
If you knew everything, then how could something make you happy or sad?
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Post by The Lost One on Mar 31, 2017 22:03:09 GMT
Not sure that follows. If I know people like me I'd be happy. If I knew they didn't, I'd be sad.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 31, 2017 23:25:43 GMT
Of course he does.
He displays a ton of emotions in the Bible
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Post by goz on Mar 31, 2017 23:33:03 GMT
It doesn't seem like He would experience emotions if He is all-knowing.
Beings experience emotion upon the discovery of new information.
If you knew everything, then how could something make you happy or sad? Which God? Yours or someone else's? |
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Post by kls on Apr 1, 2017 0:28:52 GMT
It doesn't seem like He would experience emotions if He is all-knowing.
Beings experience emotion upon the discovery of new information.
If you knew everything, then how could something make you happy or sad? Does information really have to be new to experience emotions? I mean I can be happy thinking about a good time that already happened or sad when recalling someone I lost. |
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Post by ProjectError on Apr 1, 2017 0:41:23 GMT
The Bible states he is a jealous God, a loving, but also a hateful and spiteful God. So, by Biblical standards, yes.
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Post by thefleetsin on Apr 1, 2017 0:47:53 GMT
transmute whatever emotions you're feeling at any given time.
everyone else does.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 1, 2017 1:25:33 GMT
The Bible states he is a jealous God, a loving, but also a hateful and spiteful God. So, by Biblical standards, yes. Who does God hate in the Bible? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 1:29:35 GMT
Emotions would be liable to cloud objectivity, so it would not be compatible with the perfection that God purportedly embodies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 1:34:32 GMT
Do you care?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 1, 2017 1:43:02 GMT
Emotions would be liable to cloud objectivity, so it would not be compatible with the perfection that God purportedly embodies. This implies objectivity exists without a standard set for what is good which is incorrect. Balance of emotions is perfection ad one can be objective with emotions. We do it all the time. |
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Post by 🌵 on Apr 1, 2017 1:47:09 GMT
I don't think it's true that emotions are only felt upon the discovery of new information. When I think about my girlfriend and the good times we've had together, I feel happy. That doesn't involve discovering any new information.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Apr 1, 2017 1:50:07 GMT
The Bible states he is a jealous God, a loving, but also a hateful and spiteful God. So, by Biblical standards, yes. Who does God hate in the Bible? Egyptian babies apparently |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 1:54:05 GMT
Emotions would be liable to cloud objectivity, so it would not be compatible with the perfection that God purportedly embodies. This implies objectivity exists without a standard set for what is good which is incorrect. Balance of emotions is perfection ad one can be objective with emotions. We do it all the time. Our emotions do tend to be conducive to subjective bias. Besides which, the op makes a good point. God supposedly transcends time and space, and is omniscient. This would mean that he has all the information available regarding the past, present and future at any given time. No reason, then, for emotional flux. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 1, 2017 1:55:47 GMT
Who does God hate in the Bible? Egyptian babies apparently You are mistaking the killing of something with hating it. Don't take it so personally. Besides, he killed more than Egyptian babies. It was all firstborn up to the Pharaoh. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 1, 2017 2:01:37 GMT
This implies objectivity exists without a standard set for what is good which is incorrect. Balance of emotions is perfection ad one can be objective with emotions. We do it all the time. Our emotions do tend to be conducive to subjective bias. Besides which, the op makes a good point. God supposedly transcends time and space, and is omniscient. This would mean that he has all the information available regarding the past, present and future at any given time. No reason, then, for emotional flux. You would have to figure out what "transcending time and space even means before you cold figure out if emotions play a role in it. Further, there is no indication in Scripture or practice that God is required to be omniscient. It is very clear that he takes an interest in at least his followers and the choices they make without foreknowledge which means he at least has some control over it. He'd be the weakest God ever if he didn't. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Apr 1, 2017 2:02:08 GMT
Egyptian babies apparently You are mistaking the killing of something with hating it. Don't take it so personally. Besides, he killed more than Egyptian babies. It was all firstborn up to the Pharaoh. "Don't take it so personally."
I have no idea what that has to with what I said. Sounds like a strawman.
"You are mistaking the killing of something with hating it"
Yeah I suppose you could kill someone without really hating them. They're often called serial killers. Regardless your God did indeed have some spite for the Egyptians. You can argue the spite is justified for their treatment of the Jews, but that's not what you originally asked.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 2:17:33 GMT
Our emotions do tend to be conducive to subjective bias. Besides which, the op makes a good point. God supposedly transcends time and space, and is omniscient. This would mean that he has all the information available regarding the past, present and future at any given time. No reason, then, for emotional flux. You would have to figure out what "transcending time and space even means before you cold figure out if emotions play a role in it. Further, there is no indication in Scripture or practice that God is required to be omniscient. It is very clear that he takes an interest in at least his followers and the choices they make without foreknowledge which means he at least has some control over it. He'd be the weakest God ever if he didn't. I think it effectively means that at God-level, there is no time, and that God is present in all places at once. That seems to be what the Bible suggests and also that he knows our 'soul' and conscience. If there is no passage of time, then there is no flux. If he knows the state of our conscience at any given time, then he is omniscient and also knows what caused that state and how it will evolve. |
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