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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Jan 10, 2019 14:51:09 GMT
Aquaman was great. It took time to find its stride and felt pretty choppy(lol), but was a solid step forward and all around epic. I thought based on reviews and his previous outing that DC gave Arthur much more of Namor’s persona than they actually did. If Marvel wanted to give the Sub-Mariner a full feature at this point, in spite of the vague legal issues, it’s still doable without being seen as a copy. Arthur isn’t really so Namor-like - he’s a goofy, blunt, heroic Thor, whereas Orm is his (early, pre-TDW I’d say) Loki. And Orm can still grow and evolve, as Loki has done, as well as revert as needed by the plot. 🤷♂️
Namor is proud. He is arrogant. He is honorable. He is powerful. He can back up his claims and BDE. He is exclusionary. He is a total Orm, at least early on. I thought this before, but now initiating his presence as the antagonist is a more valuable route than ever. The key is for his actions to be misguided, protective of his people, and for the key-players to come to an understanding to allow for Namor to move from initial pure villain, to conflicted antagonist, to anti-hero and ally for the heroes. He still remains a dick. But he’s the heroes’ dick. A villainous role in a Black Panther or FF movie is the perfect way to bring him in.
Thoughts?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 10, 2019 15:49:43 GMT
Aquaman has certainly cornered the market on the bio-luminescent vision of Atlantis and affable nice-guys.
In addition to being proud, arrogant and honorable, Namor is also a savage. He's not ambivalent. Marvel will have no trouble differentiating Namor from Author.
WB/DC may have to give the current Aquaman of the comics a dye-job and longer locks to reconcile the two iterations now that Aquaman of the movies is a thing though.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 10, 2019 15:51:09 GMT
Yep, sounds good to me.
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Post by James on Jan 10, 2019 16:09:59 GMT
Make it happen, Marvel!
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Post by SuperDevilDoctor on Jan 11, 2019 8:11:19 GMT
Namor might appear in a Marvel TV show, at best. With the resounding success of AQUAMAN, he’ll never appear in an MCU theatrical film.
His classic look may work in on the printed (comic) page but it’d never fly on the big screen.
He looks like a buff Mr. Spock in a speedo. The little wings on his ankles are totally absurd.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 11, 2019 8:43:13 GMT
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jan 11, 2019 15:53:15 GMT
Aquaman has certainly cornered the market on the bio-luminescent vision of Atlantis and affable nice-guys. In addition to being proud, arrogant and honorable, Namor is also a savage. He's not ambivalent. Marvel will have no trouble differentiating Namor from Author. WB/DC may have to give the current Aquaman of the comics a dye-job and longer locks to reconcile the two iterations now that Aquaman of the movies is a thing though. A "savage"? Well, that just makes you an anti-Atlantean. That's right: you're a rabid anti-Atlantean, and I'm offended. Nay, appalled! The hell is Knight when you need him? Give this hate-monger a well-deserved strike. Innit? A strike?
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Jan 11, 2019 16:01:07 GMT
Aquaman has certainly cornered the market on the bio-luminescent vision of Atlantis and affable nice-guys. In addition to being proud, arrogant and honorable, Namor is also a savage. He's not ambivalent. Marvel will have no trouble differentiating Namor from Author. WB/DC may have to give the current Aquaman of the comics a dye-job and longer locks to reconcile the two iterations now that Aquaman of the movies is a thing though. A "savage"? Well, that just makes you an anti-Atlantean. That's right: you're a rabid anti-Atlantean, and I'm offended. Nay, appalled! The hell is Knight when you need him? Give this hate-monger a well-deserved strike. Innit? A strike?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 11, 2019 16:21:40 GMT
Namor might appear in a Marvel TV show, at best. With the resounding success of AQUAMAN, he’ll never appear in an MCU theatrical film. His classic look may work in on the printed (comic) page but it’d never fly on the big screen. He looks like a buff Mr. Spock in a speedo. The little wings on his ankles are totally absurd. Namor's "disco" look is an adequate workaround for the speedo problem. It's true, his tradition look may not fly on the big screen but he himself will.
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Post by No Morpho, Only Bánh mì on Jan 11, 2019 16:31:10 GMT
Namor might appear in a Marvel TV show, at best. With the resounding success of AQUAMAN, he’ll never appear in an MCU theatrical film. His classic look may work in on the printed (comic) page but it’d never fly on the big screen. He looks like a buff Mr. Spock in a speedo. The little wings on his ankles are totally absurd. Namor's "disco" look, is an adequate workaround for the speedo problem. It's true, his tradition look may not fly on the big screen but he himself will. Yup, just stick him in black and he’ll be fine. He does have a propensity for dressing like he’s going to appear in a porno, but his style is sleek and fits his personality. The wings, if unaltered, will probably be joked about. 🤷♂️
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 11, 2019 17:00:26 GMT
A "savage"? Well, that just makes you an anti-Atlantean. That's right: you're a rabid anti-Atlantean, and I'm offended. Nay, appalled! The hell is Knight when you need him? Give this hate-monger a well-deserved strike. Innit? A strike?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 11, 2019 17:07:10 GMT
Since DC beat MCU to the punch with Aquaman, MCU will probably have Namor make a cameo appearance in a movie and then kill him off similar to how they killed off MCU Quicksilver because Fox beat them to the punch with Quicksilver.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 11, 2019 18:54:33 GMT
Since DC beat MCU to the punch with Aquaman, MCU will probably have Namor make a cameo appearance in a movie and then kill him off similar to how they killed off MCU Quicksilver because Fox beat them to the punch with Quicksilver. A strange comparison, as Quicksilver was more of a gray area where both studios could use the same character and Namor and Aquaman are two totally different characters from different companies.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 11, 2019 19:39:16 GMT
Absolutely!
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 11, 2019 22:22:26 GMT
Since DC beat MCU to the punch with Aquaman, MCU will probably have Namor make a cameo appearance in a movie and then kill him off similar to how they killed off MCU Quicksilver because Fox beat them to the punch with Quicksilver. A strange comparison, as Quicksilver was more of a gray area where both studios could use the same character and Namor and Aquaman are two totally different characters from different companies. Both characters are Princes of Atlantis and can breathe underwater and have superstrength. From general viewer's perspective, Namor would appear to be just a copy of Aquaman. So MCU will probably kill off Namor since DC beat them to the punch, similar to how MCU killed off Quicksilver because Fox beat them to the punch.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 12, 2019 2:18:13 GMT
A strange comparison, as Quicksilver was more of a gray area where both studios could use the same character and Namor and Aquaman are two totally different characters from different companies. Both characters are Princes of Atlantis and can breathe underwater and have superstrength. From general viewer's perspective, Namor would appear to be just a copy of Aquaman. So MCU will probably kill off Namor since DC beat them to the punch, similar to how MCU killed off Quicksilver because Fox beat them to the punch. The similarities between the two characters pretty much begin and end with the three you cite, there is a lot the MCU can do to differentiate Namor from Aquaman, which Marvel comics themselves have been doing for nearly a century now. Namor can be portrayed as he is in the comic books - an anti-hero who has a very high opinion of himself because of his skills as a warrior and as royalty to Atlantis, who is quite impulsive, very in your face, lets his Atlanean pride motivate him to be a better fighter, leader, and strongest around...Not unlike Vegeta of Dragon Ball fame.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jan 12, 2019 7:35:05 GMT
He'd be cool to see. I really got no preference to see him or not. I know he has a bit of a rivalry with Black Panther and really challenging each other as leaders and Kings. There are some cool stories that could be adapted there from the comics.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jan 12, 2019 10:17:38 GMT
I know that the personalities of the characters could be presented as drastically different, but everything else is just too similar. It's not like Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel where their backstories don't share much DNA. I don't think I care too much to see Namor in anything now but a TV show.
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Post by scabab on Jan 13, 2019 8:33:38 GMT
They could probably introduce him into another movie first where Atlantis doesn't play much of a part. Like how Black Panther was in Civil War without Wakanda.
That way they could establish a unique personality and abilities, like flying and then see about making a movie because at that point it'd be years after Aquaman came out.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 13, 2019 17:24:08 GMT
That way they could establish a unique personality and abilities, like flying and then see about making a movie because at that point it'd be years after Aquaman came out. But there's surely going to be an Aquaman 2 now so MCU would have to delay a Namor movie for several years to avoid looking like they're ripping off Aquaman.
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