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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jan 12, 2019 3:27:51 GMT
could you name some. i recommend DECOY (1946). it was recommended to me by morrisondylanfan.
here is my IMDB write up:
a scene from the movie:
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Post by london777 on Jan 12, 2019 3:37:00 GMT
I recommend DECOY (1946). it was recommended to me by morrisondylanfan.
I cannot follow your logic here. If you think this film is good (I have not seen it, but thanks for drawing it to my attention), why would you want a remake? There is no way that "Detour" could ever be successfully remade, for example. Surely it is the many movies that fail, but contain the germ of a good idea, which ought to be remade? (Good topic for a thread, but I will not start one at this late hour - my Brit Noir thread is still stuck in Development Hell). |
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jan 12, 2019 3:43:44 GMT
I recommend DECOY (1946). it was recommended to me by morrisondylanfan.
I cannot follow your logic here. If you think this film is good (I have not seen it, but thanks for drawing it to my attention), why would you want a remake? There is no way that "Detour" could ever be successfully remade, for example. Surely it is the many movies that fail, but contain the germ of a good idea, which ought to be remade? (Good topic for a thread, but I will not start one at this late hour - my Brit Noir thread is still stuck in Development Hell). well, whenever i watch a movie, i feel like i could have done a lot of things differently. so i should have written - well, i would love to remake this movie. |
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jan 12, 2019 4:21:04 GMT
Killer's Kiss (1955).
Jeopardy (1953).
The Damned Don't Cry (1950).
Angel Face (1953)
Thunder Road (1958).
The Killer That Stalked New York (1950).
Out of the Past (1947).
Detour (1945).
Crime Wave (1953).
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jan 12, 2019 4:23:27 GMT
THUNDER ROAD, OUT OF THE PAST (this one makes it into most best noir lists) and DETOUR are not that obscure. but thank you for the other recommendations.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Jan 12, 2019 4:26:57 GMT
THUNDER ROAD, OUT OF THE PAST (this one makes it into most best noir lists) and DETOUR are not that obscure. but thank you for the other recommendations. |
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Post by mikef6 on Jan 12, 2019 7:02:43 GMT
A Life At Stake / Paul Guilfoyle (1955). If you have trouble picturing Angela Lansbury as a femme fatale, take a look at this one and the next.
Please Murder Me! / Peter Godfrey (1956). For once Raymond Burr gets to be the noir hero instead of Bad Guy and Angela Lansbury is the femme fatale.
Shield for Murder / Edmond O’Brien & Howard W. Koch (1954). Edmond O’Brien at his sweaty best as a crooked cop who has to cover-up a murder.
Highway Dragnet / Nathan Juran (1954). With noir regulars Richard Conte and Joan Bennett.
Crack-Up / Irving Reis (1946). Variation on the noir hero with amnesia. Amazing train crash sequence.
Madonna Of The Desert / George Blair (1948). A mash-up of crime, redemption, and sentimental religion, but the presence of Sheldon Leonard gives it noir credentials.
Blonde Ice / Jack Bernhard (1948). If you think “Decoy” has an extreme femme, check this one out.
The Threat / Felix Feist (1949). A tense and terse thriller. Charles McGraw plays vicious killer Red Kluger, an almost unstoppable evil force of nature.
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Post by london777 on Jan 12, 2019 13:22:54 GMT
You're welcome. Angel Face IS another Mitchum noir that I found to be better than Thunder Road. Robert Mitchum, Jean Simmons, Otto Preminger - hardly obscure!  |
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Post by manfromplanetx on Jan 12, 2019 20:07:56 GMT
Sensualidad (1951) Mexico, Alberto Gout A knockout crime/noir tale with less than 100 votes at IMDb. Rumba dancer Ninón Sevilla is one formidable femme, most others pale beside her sexually charged manipulative prowess... Ninón Sevilla & Rodolfo Acosta 
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Post by mattgarth on Jan 12, 2019 21:17:29 GMT
BEHIND LOCKED DOORS (1948) -- reporter Richard Carlson worms his way into a mental institution to continue his investigation
(Sam Fuller followed a similar route 15 years later in SHOCK CORRIDOR)
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Post by biker1 on Jan 12, 2019 21:58:21 GMT
stranger on the third floor (1940) - early days. Amazing.
ruthless (1948) - marginal noir, but a must see melodrama. Sometimes referred to as Ulmer's citizen kane. And for good reason.
the prowler (1951) - the consummate low budget noir.
he walked by night (1948) - semidoco police thriller.
other..
tomorrow is another day (1951) - I got this from writer Eddie Mueller's top 25 noir list. Not bad, with an eye on they live by night.
Watched decoy a few times. Didn't inspire me to rejoice. was ok.
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Post by wmcclain on Jan 12, 2019 22:33:56 GMT
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Post by manfromplanetx on Jan 12, 2019 22:36:44 GMT
The Devil Thumbs a Ride (1947) Felix Feist. An excellent fast paced little gem has Lawrence Tierney starring as Steve Morgan a manipulative smooth talking sociopath. He soon has everybody under his control, after he flags a ride on the run from a violent crime. Agnes Smith (Betty Lawford) and her travelling companion are swept up in the drama, Agnes's response to Morgan's final violent indiscretion is quite something ! 
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Post by manfromplanetx on Jan 12, 2019 22:50:28 GMT
Nightfall (1957) Jacques Tourneur Featuring Aldo Ray, Brian Keith and Anne Bancroft. The excellent low-budget film is crafted with wonderful direction, a marvellous adapted screenplay and exceptional cinematography from Burnett Guffey. An absorbing tough tale which also uses flashbacks, Ray gives a tremendous performance as a paranoid man haunted by his past... 
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Post by morrisondylanfan on Jan 13, 2019 0:24:36 GMT
Hi Pimpin,I hope your weekend is going well. Whilst the rest of the movie is a genre-bending thrill, the opening (pre-flashback) run of Decoy is my favourite beginning to a Noir, due to it being like the makers distilled all the elements of Noir in the startling first 10 mins.  5 great obscure Noir flicks:  1:Blonde Ice (1948) (720 IMDb votes) I'll second mikef6 rec. Although not a genre-bender like his Decoy, this is still a really solid Noir by Jack Bernhard, which needs to be taken out of the public domain and given a remastered treatment. 2: Cloudburst (1951) (247 IMDb votes/good prints on YT.) +doctor.jpg) The first Hammer production made at Bray studios, this is an outstanding British Film Noir cast in the post-WWII angst of Britain,with a chill to rival any of the later Hammer Horror movies. 3: Les maudits/ The Damned (1947) (528 IMDb votes,out on Blu.)  A landmark title for me thanks to it being the one that got me interested in Film Noir and French cinema, co-writer/director René Clément sinks the final days of the Nazi era into the deep sea with this claustrophobic, submarine-set Noir. 4: Le Grand Jeu (1934) (311 votes,out on DVD)  Doing a Vertigo decades before Hitchcock and later being remade by Robert Siodmak, this one still stands out from the pack. To quote a review from Red-Barracuda: " Alfred Hitchcock's later revered movie Vertigo (1958) shares (or borrowed) the pretty specific idea of a man obsessed with a woman who closely resembles a past love, to the point that he treats her not as a person but as an ideal." Along with the high-class script co-written by Charles Spaak, director Jacques Feyder goes where the Hays Code had banned in the US with the second half taking place in a seedy brothel, and a haunting Tarot card final. 5: Krakatit (1948) (250 votes)  Going full circle with my final choice (so difficult to pick just 5!) this is a cracking, dripping with paranoia Czech Sci-Fi Film Noir by the still underrated Otakar Vávra,featuring an alluring Femme Fatale turn from Les maudits/ The Damned's Florence Marly. |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 13, 2019 1:23:08 GMT
A unique safari themed example. Rope of Sand (1949) starring Burt Lancaster, Paul Henreid, Corrine Calvert, Claude Rains, and Peter Lorre.
Lancaster apparently disliked the end result but I found it entertaining.
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Jan 13, 2019 5:43:29 GMT
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 13, 2019 10:12:49 GMT
The Devil Thumbs a Ride (1947) Felix Feist. An excellent fast paced little gem has Lawrence Tierney starring as Steve Morgan a manipulative smooth talking sociopath. He soon has everybody under his control, after he flags a ride on the run from a violent crime. Agnes Smith (Betty Lawford) and her travelling companion are swept up in the drama, Agnes's response to Morgan's final violent indiscretion is quite something ! Ha! I saw that one. I like the reaction of the street-wise traveling companion who knows he is BSing his story as they are driving.
Also THE THREAT is highly recommended.
FALL GUY 1947 - Clifford Penn, Robert Armstrong
ARSON INC. 1949
ALIAS NICK BEAL - 1949 Ray Milland as the Devil
PICKUP - 1949 Hugo Haas
HOLLYWOOD STORY - 1951 William Castle
BAD BLONDE 1953 - UK Noir
HOUSE OF NUMBERS 1957-Jack Palance as twin brothers.
DRIVE A CROOKED ROAD 1954 -- Mickey Rooney (I saw this before I knew Rooney was a sugar daddy in real life) written by Blake Edwards
THE BLACK GLOVE 1954 - UK Noir
MAN IN THE VAULT 1955 - William "the Squire of Gothos" Campbell Anita Ekberg
DEATH IN SMALL DOSES 1957- Peter Graves Chuck Connors
THE MAN IN THE NET -- 1959
THE TRAP - 1959 Richard Widmark, Lee J Cobb, Tina Louise, Earl Holliman
BLAST OF SILENCE - 1961
NIGHTMARE IN THE SUN 1965 - John Derek, Ursula Andress - a strange movie with eccentric actor cameos but has noir qualities
THE VIOLENT FOUR - 1968 Italian Crime film Gian Maria Volonte, Tomas Milian
IN ROME LIKE CHICAGO - 1968 John Cassavetes
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Apr 26, 2019 6:12:13 GMT
stranger on the third floor (1940) - early days. Amazing. ruthless (1948) - marginal noir, but a must see melodrama. Sometimes referred to as Ulmer's citizen kane. And for good reason. the prowler (1951) - the consummate low budget noir. he walked by night (1948) - semidoco police thriller. other.. tomorrow is another day (1951) - I got this from writer Eddie Mueller's top 25 noir list. Not bad, with an eye on they live by night. Watched decoy a few times. Didn't inspire me to rejoice. was ok. Huge fan of The Prowler! Van Heflin is crazy good in it.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Aug 8, 2019 20:35:51 GMT
I recommend DECOY (1946). it was recommended to me by morrisondylanfan.
I cannot follow your logic here. If you think this film is good (I have not seen it, but thanks for drawing it to my attention), why would you want a remake? There is no way that "Detour" could ever be successfully remade, for example. Surely it is the many movies that fail, but contain the germ of a good idea, which ought to be remade? (Good topic for a thread, but I will not start one at this late hour - my Brit Noir thread is still stuck in Development Hell). get that brit noir thread going!  just watched Detour, a great one!
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