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Post by petrolino on Apr 1, 2017 23:38:20 GMT
Sam Wood was one hell of a great director and his classics speak for themselves. Yet it's said he could be a severe and lingering pain in your backside if he took a major dislike to you.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 2, 2017 0:12:10 GMT
Yep, Duke was a perfect HONDO. By the same token, Ford was a better 'Dadier' in BLACKBOARD JUNGLE then Wayne ever would have been (the Duke would have belted those rebellious kids up the side of the head). You are right on there, Dadio ! Did the Duke ever play the role of a teacher ? I cannot recall any such . |
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Post by snsurone on Apr 2, 2017 1:20:24 GMT
I've read that Victor Fleming was extremely difficult to work with on GWTW, especially regarding Vivien Leigh's performance.
Once, when Leigh asked Fleming how should she play a certain scene, he replied, "Ham it up!"
Luckily, she and Olivia deHavilland secretly consulted George Cukor (the original director), and his advice guided them to superb performances, especially from Leigh in perhaps the most difficult role of her career, culminating in an Oscar as Best Actress of 1939.
It bugs me that Fleming received sole directing credit for GWTW when scenes directed by Cukor and Sam Wood made the final cut.
And that Fleming alone won the Oscar as Best Director!
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Post by telegonus on Apr 2, 2017 8:02:55 GMT
Yep, Duke was a perfect HONDO. By the same token, Ford was a better 'Dadier' in BLACKBOARD JUNGLE then Wayne ever would have been (the Duke would have belted those rebellious kids up the side of the head). True, Matt. The Duke wouldn't have been a good fit for Ford's role in Gilda, either; I can't seem him in Ransom!. Ford would have made a phlegmatic Ringo Kid in Stagecoach, and with him as Dunston in Red River there would be no need to "mutiny". He'd have remained level headed and empathetic. |
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 2, 2017 13:02:40 GMT
Agreed, Tele -- although Ford did portray a tough trail boss in the movie COWBOY.
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 2, 2017 13:09:13 GMT
Wayne was never a teacher in the regular classroom sense, Bat. But he was one tough instructor in IWO JIMA. And I can tell you from personal experience that Marine Sergeants make the best teachers. 'Get down and give me twenty' is an effective motivation for paying attention and learning the lesson for the day.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 2, 2017 13:35:20 GMT
mattgarth Hard to imagine Wayne as a schoolroom type teacher ( possibly with a bow tie ?). He could have played one and probably quite well but it's just hard to imagine. He looks so natural and right in the cowboy and military outfits ... well except for those times in the Orient. His Iwo Jima "teaching on the go" was pretty impressive. Accurate too ?
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 2, 2017 14:02:38 GMT
Very accurate, Bat. And Marine enlistments soared for generations as a result.
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Post by Eλευθερί on Apr 2, 2017 19:26:50 GMT
Working with Kubrick was apparently no walk in the park.
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Post by marshamae on Apr 3, 2017 14:18:13 GMT
A Michael Curtiz story from David Niven. They were making Charge of tge light Brigade. Curtiz gave tge unforgettable order" bring on the Empty Horses ! " Niven and Errol Flyn became helpless with laughter. Curtiz turned on them and screamed " you think I know F$€k nothing? I know F$€k All!"
I always say the way to handle words is to make them mean what You want.
Flynn could be very annoying but he made a lot more films with Curtiz including Robin Hood so I guess they recovered
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Post by pimpinainteasy on Apr 3, 2017 14:52:24 GMT
DAVID.O.RUSSELL
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Post by Eλευθερί on Apr 3, 2017 16:41:11 GMT
According to Debbie Reynolds, Gene Kelly, who was co-billed as the director on Singin' in the Rain, didn't want Reynolds to be cast in the first place (it was her first role and she didn't know how to dance), criticized everything she did, and never gave her a word of encouragement.
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Post by gadolinium on Apr 3, 2017 21:14:34 GMT
 Some of his actors were no less crazy. A great guy though.  And the guy on the right as well. |
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Post by hi224 on Apr 4, 2017 1:11:43 GMT
Some of his actors were no less crazy. A great guy though. And the guy on the right as well. Yeah he had a notorious ego actually. |
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Apr 4, 2017 1:32:17 GMT
True, Matt. The Duke wouldn't have been a good fit for Ford's role in Gilda, either; I can't seem him in Ransom!. Ford would have made a phlegmatic Ringo Kid in Stagecoach, and with him as Dunston in Red River there would be no need to "mutiny". He'd have remained level headed and empathetic. One might say that Ford tended to play "everyman" or "realistic" characters, whereas Wayne's parts—even when nuanced or complex, as in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence or The Searchers—were purely mythic. Wayne was larger than life; Ford, conversely, represented what cinema patrons might hope to be. |
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Apr 4, 2017 4:19:25 GMT
I've read accounts of Hitchcock having disdain for actors to the point of putting them through a psychological and occasionally physical endurance test on his films. Hitchcock infamously made—shall we say—unwanted advances toward Tippi Hedren. ***SPOILERS for Vertigo***Anyway, your comment represents part of the reason why Vertigo strikes me as Hitchcock's most personal film. The way that Jimmy Stewart's Scottie Ferguson comes to critique and control Kim Novak's Judy surely suggests a director's potentially dictatorial control on a film set, especially with regard to beautifying and objectifying his actresses in just the way that he wants—until he gets what he wants, as Judy eventually surrenders her own feelings and appears exactly as Scottie wants. This parallel—this point of irony—adds another layer to the tragic resonance of Vertigo. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 4, 2017 4:25:25 GMT
gadoliniumI've obviously been living in a cave but who are the guys in your pictures that are not steve McQ ?
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Post by OldAussie on Apr 4, 2017 4:30:27 GMT
Herzog and Peckinpah.... I think.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 4, 2017 4:42:34 GMT
OldAussieI wish that when they post these big pictures that slow my puter down so much that they'd say who is in them. K. Rant over ! You may be right as to who they are in the pics.
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Post by telegonus on Apr 4, 2017 6:47:10 GMT
True, Matt. The Duke wouldn't have been a good fit for Ford's role in Gilda, either; I can't seem him in Ransom!. Ford would have made a phlegmatic Ringo Kid in Stagecoach, and with him as Dunston in Red River there would be no need to "mutiny". He'd have remained level headed and empathetic. One might say that Ford tended to play "everyman" or "realistic" characters, whereas Wayne's parts—even when nuanced or complex, as in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence or The Searchers—were purely mythic. Wayne was larger than life; Ford, conversely, represented what cinema patrons might hope to be. Perfectly stated, Joekiddlouisshcama  |
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