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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 19:43:38 GMT
Per Woj, Fultzy has rejoined the Sixers and plans to 'return' by the end of the year  |
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Post by Aj_June on Jan 19, 2019 20:38:36 GMT
End of the season I think not the year. Some are saying he may be the biggest bust of NBA and some are saying his problems are mental.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 20:47:05 GMT
End of the season I think not the year. Some are saying he may be the biggest bust of NBA and some are saying his problems are mental. The drama ensues. Some are saying end of the year (NBA season) - some are saying he's withheld prior to the end of the trade deadline (Pistons and Magic have rumored interest), some are saying he's out for the year (end of the NBA season) Some are speculating he's been cleared to return prior to the trade deadline period to make a trade just to get his $9 mil off the books next year so they can clear him and trash to re-sign Butler and max another Free Agent...... The drama ensues. I'll keep you up to date with 'As the Fultzy Turns Episode XXIX' |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 19, 2019 21:19:39 GMT
Have you ever been this disappointed by a draft pick? I remember when they drafted him you were super giddy. You were having visions of Simmons drives with a dish to Fultz, or Fultz drives with dishes to Embiid. You thought he was the perfect pick fit, and clearly Philly agreed.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but do you think Tatum would have fit in at SF with Simmons running the point?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 21:35:06 GMT
Have you ever been this disappointed by a draft pick? I remember when they drafted him you were super giddy. You were having visions of Simmons drives with a dish to Fultz, or Fultz drives with dishes to Embiid. You thought he was the perfect pick fit, and clearly Philly agreed. Hindsight is always 20/20, but do you think Tatum would have fit in at SF with Simmons running the point? No. Tatum wasn't the pick at the time and I wanted nothing to do with him. They needed a sharp shooting combo guard who could run the point but also play off of Simmons at the '2'. Fultzy was that guy. There's been many rumors and stories. Motorcycle accident? Hired a trainer who completely changed his shot (he was shooting jumpers in practice on his back for Christs Sakes) - before his rookie year in Summer League he was playing well. He's always appeared to be a 'Mommas Boy' after the past couple of years. Apparently his father bolted and he was raise closely by his mom and sister. He's an enigma. He looks so timid. And scared. Around Alphas like Embiid and Simmons and now Butler? One can say it's a disaster. But they've all done nothing but support him. One can state - well what are they supposed to do - bury the kid? Fair Question. Perhaps is TOS - a nerve condition? One can ask why was he picked #1 if he's a mommas boy and timid which he's shown throughout his life (fair question) and is this what Ainge saw? He didn't have to be 'the guy' coming here even as a #1 pick - just be 3rd banana running next to Simmoms and Embiid - he served a purpose and fit a role they needed - a perfect compliment - guy who could shoot from the outside but also handle PG responsibilities when the ball was out of Simmons hands and penetrate at will. My fear is look at D'LO now on the Nets - who I'd love to have on the Sixers - all the potential in the world who disappointed for a couple of years - I'd ride this out. They need a combo guard to run next to Simmons - and like D'Lo who was heralded coming out of Ohio State and picked #2 - I'd like to ride this out..... |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 19, 2019 22:07:56 GMT
I don't know if that comparison is gonna work out. Russell was a 2nd team all rookie at 19 years old (turned 20 in February of his rookie season). Did a lot of good things as a rookie, percentages not too good. He was having a better 2nd year, even with injuries slowing him down and the locker room issues going on with Nick Young.
He was looking even better with Brooklyn in year 3 until injuries shortened that. Now his percentages remain low, but he's really rolling, even after starting a little slow this year. I'm rooting for Fultz, but he is way way wayyyyy behind Russell in terms of production and development.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 22:18:59 GMT
I don't know if that comparison is gonna work out. Russell was a 2nd team all rookie at 19 years old (turned 20 in February of his rookie season). Did a lot of good things as a rookie, percentages not too good. He was having a better 2nd year, even with injuries slowing him down and the locker room issues going on with Nick Young. He was looking even better with Brooklyn in year 3 until injuries shortened that. Now his percentages remain low, but he's really rolling, even after starting a little slow this year. I'm rooting for Fultz, but he is way way wayyyyy behind Russell in terms of production and development. so then why did the Lakers get rid of him - because Nick Young was Lebron James v2.0? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 22:29:53 GMT
I don't know if that comparison is gonna work out. Russell was a 2nd team all rookie at 19 years old (turned 20 in February of his rookie season). Did a lot of good things as a rookie, percentages not too good. He was having a better 2nd year, even with injuries slowing him down and the locker room issues going on with Nick Young. He was looking even better with Brooklyn in year 3 until injuries shortened that. Now his percentages remain low, but he's really rolling, even after starting a little slow this year. I'm rooting for Fultz, but he is way way wayyyyy behind Russell in terms of production and development. yeah - guess comparisons aren't fair here. in limited playing time his rookie year - at 19 years old - Fultzy was the youngest player in NBA history to post a triple double............ as you stated with D'Lo - percentages 'not too good' 'even with injuries slowing him down and locker room issues. 'now percentages remain low..........even after starting the season slow'. gee. that sounds Fultzy present and D'Lo prior to me - only D'Lo had a larger slate of games and sample size to judge on - before the Lakers decided to get rid of him because he was having lockeroom issues with Michael Jordan 2.0 Nick 'Swaggy P' Young  |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 19, 2019 23:44:20 GMT
I don't know if that comparison is gonna work out. Russell was a 2nd team all rookie at 19 years old (turned 20 in February of his rookie season). Did a lot of good things as a rookie, percentages not too good. He was having a better 2nd year, even with injuries slowing him down and the locker room issues going on with Nick Young. He was looking even better with Brooklyn in year 3 until injuries shortened that. Now his percentages remain low, but he's really rolling, even after starting a little slow this year. I'm rooting for Fultz, but he is way way wayyyyy behind Russell in terms of production and development. so then why did the Lakers get rid of him - because Nick Young was Lebron James v2.0? You don't remember the situation? |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 19, 2019 23:52:25 GMT
I don't know if that comparison is gonna work out. Russell was a 2nd team all rookie at 19 years old (turned 20 in February of his rookie season). Did a lot of good things as a rookie, percentages not too good. He was having a better 2nd year, even with injuries slowing him down and the locker room issues going on with Nick Young. He was looking even better with Brooklyn in year 3 until injuries shortened that. Now his percentages remain low, but he's really rolling, even after starting a little slow this year. I'm rooting for Fultz, but he is way way wayyyyy behind Russell in terms of production and development. yeah - guess comparisons aren't fair here. in limited playing time his rookie year - at 19 years old - Fultzy was the youngest player in NBA history to post a triple double............ as you stated with D'Lo - percentages 'not too good' 'even with injuries slowing him down and locker room issues. 'now percentages remain low..........even after starting the season slow'. gee. that sounds Fultzy present and D'Lo prior to me - only D'Lo had a larger slate of games and sample size to judge on - before the Lakers decided to get rid of him because he was having lockeroom issues with Michael Jordan 2.0 Nick 'Swaggy P' Young Come on man, don't be a homer about this. Fultz has shot .267 from 3 and .534 from the free throw line. That's not "not too good." That's a fucking catastrophe. Russell was .352 and .750 over his first two years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 23:53:08 GMT
so then why did the Lakers get rid of him - because Nick Young was Lebron James v2.0? You don't remember the situation? uh - yeah - D'Lo outed Swaggy P for cheating on his girlfriend which showed he was a weasel and a worm as a human being and not to be trusted as a friend and confident. sucks but there's an old saying life - your coworkers aren't your friends - if anything they're acquaintances and you get along for the betterment of the team, company and for your own sake to progress forward......... it's cold blooded daddy. guy put up 40 points last night and Swaggy P is looking for a job. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 23:58:44 GMT
D'Lo played 143 games his first 2 years. Fultzy 33 Let's see what happens when Fultzy recovers from TOS - if only Fultzy was as healthy as D'Lo and didn't have TOS |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 20, 2019 0:05:49 GMT
You don't remember the situation? uh - yeah - D'Lo outed Swaggy P for cheating on his girlfriend which showed he was a weasel and a worm as a human being and not to be trusted as a friend and confident. sucks but there's an old saying life - your coworkers aren't your friends - if anything they're acquaintances and you get along for the betterment of the team, company and for your own sake to progress forward......... it's cold blooded daddy. guy put up 40 points last night and Swaggy P is looking for a job. Yeah, guess the nets knew what they were doing when they agreed to trade their first round pick (Kuzma) and all-star brook Lopez (with an expiring contract) for Russell and the terrible contract of Mozgov. So the Lakers got rid of a terrible contract, got an expiring contract, got a first round pick, used their own 1st round pick for the point guard they wanted (Russell wasn't "their" pick), and got the cap room needed to sign Lebron. Yeah, they sure dumped Russell for nothing. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 20, 2019 0:10:28 GMT
D'Lo played 143 games his first 2 years. Fultzy 33 Let's see what happens when Fultzy recovers from TOS - if only Fultzy was as healthy as D'Lo and didn't have TOS Yeah, if only, we might be able to compare the two. I accept your resignation. |
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Post by You_Got_A_Stew_Goin_Baby on Jan 20, 2019 0:19:43 GMT
End of the season I think not the year. Some are saying he may be the biggest bust of NBA and some are saying his problems are mental. No way is he the biggest bust. Anthony Bennett and poor old Greg Oden come to mind before Fultzy in that category. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 0:21:27 GMT
D'Lo played 143 games his first 2 years. Fultzy 33 Let's see what happens when Fultzy recovers from TOS - if only Fultzy was as healthy as D'Lo and didn't have TOS Yeah, if only, we might be able to compare the two. I accept your resignation. Second Team All-Rookie - and he was drafted #2 in the Draft  And I've been D'Lo's biggest proponent as a fan and thought it was a steal for Brooklyn to get him. My whole point when comparing D'Lo to Fultz is sometimes it takes patience with players. D'Lo is only now starting to blossom as a pro. He got hated on with the Lakers. The Lakers would not have been that dumb to get rid of a young player like that simply because of off the court drama - they actually considered Jordan Clarkson as a better option at the time which is quite sad - D'Lo was regarded as a bust - a change of scenery helped the kid. Do you think they would have gotten rid of a #2 pick in the draft just because of 8th grade BS with Nick Young? Or do you think they got rid of him because he disappointed and regarded him as a bust and viewed Jordan Clarkson as the better option at the time? I'm guessing they do the same with Ingram - and Ingram blossoms in a new setting |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 0:34:09 GMT
uh - yeah - D'Lo outed Swaggy P for cheating on his girlfriend which showed he was a weasel and a worm as a human being and not to be trusted as a friend and confident. sucks but there's an old saying life - your coworkers aren't your friends - if anything they're acquaintances and you get along for the betterment of the team, company and for your own sake to progress forward......... it's cold blooded daddy. guy put up 40 points last night and Swaggy P is looking for a job. Yeah, guess the nets knew what they were doing when they agreed to trade their first round pick (Kuzma) and all-star brook Lopez (with an expiring contract) for Russell and the terrible contract of Mozgov. So the Lakers got rid of a terrible contract, got an expiring contract, got a first round pick, used their own 1st round pick for the point guard they wanted (Russell wasn't "their" pick), and got the cap room needed to sign Lebron. Yeah, they sure dumped Russell for nothing. interesting. interesting indeed. so the entire league missed out on kyle kuzma and the crafty lakers were waiting there to scoop up their wanted player in the late 20s. lil devils. gotya |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 20, 2019 0:38:40 GMT
He was not considered a bust by anyone who watched him play. The nets gave up so much to get him. The Lakers got so much for him. And my fantasy team knew what they were getting when we drafted him in the 8th round. And he's doing it with a 30% usage rate. No matter what happens with Fultz, with Embiid and Simmons on the team, he will never even be a 20% usage guy. Russell is not a pop up shooter. He needs the ball in his hands to be as good as he has been. You can't be a .420 spot up shooter.
No matter how you slice it, Fultz to Russel is a terrible comparison.
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Post by hehatesshe on Jan 20, 2019 0:40:42 GMT
Yeah, guess the nets knew what they were doing when they agreed to trade their first round pick (Kuzma) and all-star brook Lopez (with an expiring contract) for Russell and the terrible contract of Mozgov. So the Lakers got rid of a terrible contract, got an expiring contract, got a first round pick, used their own 1st round pick for the point guard they wanted (Russell wasn't "their" pick), and got the cap room needed to sign Lebron. Yeah, they sure dumped Russell for nothing. interesting. interesting indeed. so the entire league missed out on kyle kuzma and the crafty lakers were waiting there to scoop up their wanted player in the late 20s. lil devils. gotya Well that's one way to have a debate. Focus on one of five points and ignore the rest. Winning! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 11:33:40 GMT
He was not considered a bust by anyone who watched him play. The nets gave up so much to get him. The Lakers got so much for him. And my fantasy team knew what they were getting when we drafted him in the 8th round. And he's doing it with a 30% usage rate. No matter what happens with Fultz, with Embiid and Simmons on the team, he will never even be a 20% usage guy. Russell is not a pop up shooter. He needs the ball in his hands to be as good as he has been. You can't be a .420 spot up shooter. No matter how you slice it, Fultz to Russel is a terrible comparison. It's a magnificent comparison.
A combo guard drafted #2 in the draft who disappointed his first couple of years in the league and is now blossoming in his 4th year in the league - which gives me hope for Fultzy.
If he wasn't deemed a 'disappointment' - there's absolutely no way the Lakers would have even considered getting rid of him and his rookie contract - they 'gave up' on the #2 pick in the draft to go in another direction because they didn't view him as valuable enough to hold onto long term and pretty much decided to go in another direction instead of making him one of the cornerstones of the future.
Fultzy just doesn't have the sample size as D'Lo did in his first 2 years in the league which is why #s may not be comparible; however situation of a Combo Guard picked high in the draft who struggled adjusting to the league is.
It would be pretty much what the Sixers would do if they traded Fultzy - rumors came out a couple of months back which was all over the news - that he wasn't part of the 'future' and they were going to dump him before the season was over to save $9 to possibly go after another max free agent after potentially signing Butler.
So 'Fultzy' if these rumors are true - isn't deemed part of the franchises future - just like D'Lo wasn't deemed part of the Lakers future.
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