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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 22, 2019 19:55:08 GMT
THE LOST CONTINENT 1968 really stepped on the toes of the one of the two very biggest censors in Hollywood, the tobacco company, with two of the on screen "deaths by monsters" occurring immediately after each of the victims lit up a cigarette. You'll notice that today this cult classic is swept under the rug, and "yes", the tobacco industry is cleverly behind the scenes doing it. If you ever watch an old war film, you'll notice that extras in a battle can ensure their survival of the battle into the next scene by smoking cigarettes. It was not allowed by the industry for a soldier to be killed if he smoked cigarettes. How this film got past one of the two biggest censors in Hollywood is astounding. You need help.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jan 22, 2019 20:07:27 GMT
It's odd that a film praising George Patton was made at the height of anti-military sentiment in the US. Odder that it was so successful. Even at the height of anti-military sentiment in the US it was never anywhere even close to a majority of opinion. "A Gallup poll in October 1965 showed that 64 percent of the American public approved of our involvement in Vietnam. However, by January 1969, the year Mr. Quayle entered the National Guard, a Gallup poll showed that 52 percent felt our entering the war was a mistake, while 39 percent approved of it.
A May 1966 Gallup poll reported Americans opposed withdrawing our troops from Vietnam, 48 percent to 35 percent. However, two years later, a Gallup poll showed 56 percent favored withdrawing our troops. By September 1970, 55 percent of the public thought we should bring home all troops by the end of 1971. It was 1974 before we accomplished that.
In short, the Vietnam War had the consent of the governed in 1965, but it did not by 1969."
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Post by bravomailer on Jan 22, 2019 20:14:29 GMT
1966: sixty-two percent of respondents had “a great deal of confidence” in the military
1971: twenty-seven percent felt that way
Samuel P. Huntington, “The United States,” in Michael J. Crozier, Samuel P. Huntington, and Joji Watanuki, The Crisis of Democracy (New York: New York University Press, 1975), p. 83.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 22, 2019 21:06:12 GMT
1966: sixty-two percent of respondents had “a great deal of confidence” in the military 1971: twenty-seven percent felt that way Samuel P. Huntington, “The United States,” in Michael J. Crozier, Samuel P. Huntington, and Joji Watanuki, The Crisis of Democracy (New York: New York University Press, 1975), p. 83. The question in that particular poll was;
"As far as people running these institutions are concerned, would you say you have a great deal of confidence, only some confidence, or hardly any confidence in them?"
Lack of confidence in a particular set of military leaders at a particular point in the Vietnam War does not equal "anti-military sentiment"
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Post by bravomailer on Jan 22, 2019 22:04:53 GMT
1966: sixty-two percent of respondents had “a great deal of confidence” in the military 1971: twenty-seven percent felt that way Samuel P. Huntington, “The United States,” in Michael J. Crozier, Samuel P. Huntington, and Joji Watanuki, The Crisis of Democracy (New York: New York University Press, 1975), p. 83. The question in that particular poll was;
"As far as people running these institutions are concerned, would you say you have a great deal of confidence, only some confidence, or hardly any confidence in them?"
Lack of confidence in a particular set of military leaders at a particular point in the Vietnam War does not equal "anti-military sentiment"
I realize the data did not address anti-military sentiment as directly as I'd like, but the sharp decline in confidence in the military (not in "a particular set of military leaders") from 62% to 27% is hardly consistent with sustained pro-military sentiment. John Mueller's book on polling data during that period should offer relevant numbers. Other movies from the period (MASH, Catch-22, Johnny Got His Gun, FTA, Coming Home) are deeply antimilitary. And the general climate did not go unnoticed by those of us who served back then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 7:07:01 GMT
One of the most offensive movies I have seen in the past two decades.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Jan 24, 2019 7:16:08 GMT
Just about anything with Adam Sandler and Seth Rogen in it.
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