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Post by mikef6 on Jan 22, 2019 15:42:37 GMT
Black Panther as best picture. WTF is this garbage doing in the BEST 8 PICTURES of the year? It is called political correctness and it will go on year after year to all infinity. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 Awards and nominations to minorities or women are always "political correctness." African-Americas or females could never possibly produce any thing of value - at least that's what the "political correctness" crowd believes (it is also called "conservatism"). That is all "political correctness" means, that only white males ever deserve recognition. This is a basic belief of the right-wing.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 22, 2019 15:43:45 GMT
Those categories only have 5 slots. For all we know, B.P. was in 6th place in some of them. A movie can be among the best without excelling in an individual aspect, because the sum of its parts is what matters. Don't buy that. A Best Picture movie has no standout top 5 acting performances across 2 subset categories for both male and females? No Best direction or cinematography? No story execution worthy of a adapted screen play nom? And combine all those and we get 0 nominations for anything outside Best Picture. Ive not checked but Id want to know when the last time a best picture nominated film had no representation in the other prestigious criteria.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 22, 2019 15:46:24 GMT
It is called political correctness and it will go on year after year to all infinity. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 A film I assume you think isn't worthy, starring mostly black people....yeah of course it must be political correctness. As opposed to nearly 7000 people individually casting anonymous votes and the biggest cinematic phenomenon of the year being one of the 8 most voted for films. They've exposed themselves given that no one considered any other facet of Black Panther good enough for a nomination.
''Yeah I liked black panther for its cultural impact, even though I think other films had better executed stories, direction, acting and cinematography. But yeh, Wakanda forever!!!!1''
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Post by sostie on Jan 22, 2019 16:01:08 GMT
A film I assume you think isn't worthy, starring mostly black people....yeah of course it must be political correctness. As opposed to nearly 7000 people individually casting anonymous votes and the biggest cinematic phenomenon of the year being one of the 8 most voted for films. They've exposed themselves given that no one considered any other facet of Black Panther good enough for a nomination.
''Yeah I liked black panther for its cultural impact, even though I think other films had better executed stories, direction, acting and cinematography. But yeh, Wakanda forever!!!!1''
The 7000 people that vote for the Best film nomination are not the same that vote on the individual categories. Screenplay writers vote on the screenplays, editors on the editing, actors on the acting etc etc. It's not that unbelievable that smaller groups who excel in a certain field may think that there were five at least better in those particular areas. Everyone votes for the best film....the whole package, not it's individual elements.
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Post by louise on Jan 22, 2019 16:05:34 GMT
I hope The Favourite doesn'twinanything, I hate that film.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 22, 2019 16:12:48 GMT
Nominating Black Panther for best picture is moronic. Look, I can understand if you didn't like it, since you're not the first one to say it, but-- Nominating any superhero movie for best picture is moronic. Ah, you're trolling. Never mind. Oh yes of course i have an opinion you disagree with, so i must be trolling Yes you are blocked
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Post by politicidal on Jan 22, 2019 16:14:03 GMT
Regardless of our opinions on the film, is it really out of this world that Black Panther got a nod? It was hugely successful and enormously acclaimed (whether some persons like it or not ). And it's certainly not the first summer blockbuster to score inclusion in that category. It's a win for superhero movies in my opinion.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 22, 2019 16:14:49 GMT
Just to show how blatantly obvious it is that Black Panther was a throwaway nomination: Black panther is the only film in the Best Picture catergory to not get any other nominations in the main categories. That means Black Panther didn't have any cast members considered worthy for Best Actor/Actresses or Best Supporting Actor/Actress. The story wasn't worthy of being picked for Best Adapated Screenplay. The camerawork was not good enough to be selected for Best Cinematography. The editing wasn't good enough to be picked for Best Film Editing. The direction wasn't good enough for Coogler to be nominated for Best Director. Its just to show the Academy is all inclusive. Dont get so worked up about it So Green Book, BlacKKKlansman, and Bohemian Rhapsody following suit too?
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Post by Archelaus on Jan 22, 2019 16:15:42 GMT
There's too many snubs:
If Beale Street Could Talk for Best Picture Barry Jenkins for Best Director First Man for Best Cinematography and Best Original Score Won't You Be My Neighbor for Best Documentary Feature Toni Collette for Best Actress (sort of knew she wasn't going to be nominated) Ethan Hawke for First Reformed
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Post by politicidal on Jan 22, 2019 16:19:38 GMT
Just to show how blatantly obvious it is that Black Panther was a throwaway nomination: Black panther is the only film in the Best Picture catergory to not get any other nominations in the main categories. That means Black Panther didn't have any cast members considered worthy for Best Actor/Actresses or Best Supporting Actor/Actress. The story wasn't worthy of being picked for Best Adapated Screenplay. The camerawork was not good enough to be selected for Best Cinematography. The editing wasn't good enough to be picked for Best Film Editing. The direction wasn't good enough for Coogler to be nominated for Best Director. James Cameron's Avatar didn't score a nomination for best acting or screenplay either. Was all that just a throwaway nomination for cat owners?
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jan 22, 2019 16:28:45 GMT
BP won't win. It's just to get people to watch. Sucks that they took a spot away from another film, but these are desperate times for the Academy. I'm not going to debate the merits of the nomination, but it didn't take a spot away from any movie...they can nominate up to ten; they only nominated eight.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 22, 2019 16:33:11 GMT
BP won't win. It's just to get people to watch. Sucks that they took a spot away from another film, but these are desperate times for the Academy. I'm not going to debate the merits of the nomination, but it didn't take a spot away from any movie...they can nominate up to ten; they only nominated eight.Hmm, that is interesting.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Jan 22, 2019 16:35:05 GMT
I'm not going to debate the merits of the nomination, but it didn't take a spot away from any movie...they can nominate up to ten; they only nominated eight. Interesting. Why is that? Do we know? No idea. First Man, even though it flopped commercially, was a huge critical success that would have made sense getting one of those remaining spots. I'd argue that the tenth spot could have went to Infinity War...it did make two billion dollars, and was an epic achievement for the size and scope of the movie. The Academy lost its credibility with me when Harve the Perv bought the Best Picture Oscar for Shakespeare in Love.
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Post by Vits on Jan 22, 2019 17:21:29 GMT
Don't buy that. A Best Picture movie has no standout top 5 acting performances across 2 subset categories for both male and females? No Best direction or cinematography? No story execution worthy of a adapted screen play nom? And combine all those and we get 0 nominations for anything outside Best Picture. Ive not checked but Id want to know when the last time a best picture nominated film had no representation in the other prestigious criteria. They've exposed themselves given that no one considered any other facet of Black Panther good enough for a nomination. It's one thing to say there are main categories, but your phrasing comes off as dismissing the works of crew members. As for previous examples... It's happened a lot more since the category was expanded. The last time was SELMA. Oh yes of course i have an opinion you disagree with, so i must be trolling Yes you are blocked No, it's trolling because you're trashing an entire genre. There are no good or bad genres; it depends on the movie. And even if that wasn't true, it's no reason for you to insult it that way. Oh, yes of course, I you disagree with me, so I must be blocked. Great reasoning. BP won't win. It's just to get people to watch. The incredible big number of members got together and decided to vote for 1 movie thinking it would give the ceremony more ratings? Sure...
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Post by politicidal on Jan 22, 2019 17:24:41 GMT
I think the whole Kevin Hart fiasco tuned people out on the Oscars this year anyway. But we'll see what happens.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Jan 22, 2019 17:42:20 GMT
Just to show how blatantly obvious it is that Black Panther was a throwaway nomination: Black panther is the only film in the Best Picture catergory to not get any other nominations in the main categories. That means Black Panther didn't have any cast members considered worthy for Best Actor/Actresses or Best Supporting Actor/Actress. The story wasn't worthy of being picked for Best Adapated Screenplay. The camerawork was not good enough to be selected for Best Cinematography. The editing wasn't good enough to be picked for Best Film Editing. The direction wasn't good enough for Coogler to be nominated for Best Director. I don't think I would say Black Panther is "Best Picture"-worthy, but I think Michael B. Jordan could have gotten a nod for Supporting Actor.
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Post by sostie on Jan 22, 2019 18:23:58 GMT
I'm not going to debate the merits of the nomination, but it didn't take a spot away from any movie...they can nominate up to ten; they only nominated eight. Interesting. Why is that? Do we know? I think I read somewhere that any film that get's a 100+ Best Pic nomination votes instantly makes the final list...maybe only 8 reached that figure
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 18:26:43 GMT
Well, another year, another useless Oscars.
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Post by sostie on Jan 22, 2019 18:31:06 GMT
It is called political correctness and it will go on year after year to all infinity. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 Awards and nominations to minorities or women are always "political correctness." African-Americas or females could never possibly produce any thing of value - at least that's what the "political correctness" crowd believes (it is also called "conservatism"). That is all "political correctness" means, that only white males ever deserve recognition. This is a basic belief of the right-wing. Be gentle...its a bad year for them...the nominations are a film with a mainly black cast, a film starring a gay activist, a film about Mexicans, a film starring 3 women that contains lesbianism, a less than flattering depiction of some famous Republicans, a biopic of a gay rock star, a film about a friendship between a white and black man, a film about a black man and a Jew infiltrating the KKK. IT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 18:32:27 GMT
Awards and nominations to minorities or women are always "political correctness." African-Americas or females could never possibly produce any thing of value - at least that's what the "political correctness" crowd believes (it is also called "conservatism"). That is all "political correctness" means, that only white males ever deserve recognition. This is a basic belief of the right-wing. Be gentle...its a bad year for them...the nominations are a film with a mainly black cast, a film starring a gay activist, a film about Mexicans, a film starring 3 women that contains lesbianism, a less than flattering depiction of some famous Republicans, a biopic of a gay rock star, a film about a friendship between a white and black man, a film about a black man and a Jew infiltrating the KKK. IT'S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!!! It is, for sure, and why the Oscars are such a waste of time.
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