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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 23, 2019 11:42:59 GMT
Most of the time I have no idea what the best pictures are because I haven’t seen them. But Black Panther? I just don’t see what’s so special about it. Infinity War and Deadpool 2 were both better and in the same genre. Any movie that follows that same MCU outline does not deserve a Best Picture nom. However, most years there are movies that are nominated based on their social relevance and Black Panther was possibly the most prominent this year. That's not to say that's the only reason it got nominated since that would be pert near impossible. However, I think people truly loved it in part because of the shared experience of feeling they were watching something unique to the super hero genre. I personally thought the last quarter was too flawed and the effects were so bad to be distracting, but it certainly had set itself apart from the rest of the hero genre. I think nearly everything Black Panther is praised for outside of Michael B Jordan, Into the Spiderverse did better. Heck, I don;t even think some of the things Black Panther is praised for is even done very well in the movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 15:54:26 GMT
Most of the time I have no idea what the best pictures are because I haven’t seen them. But Black Panther? I just don’t see what’s so special about it. Infinity War and Deadpool 2 were both better and in the same genre. I agree, Infinity War had an ending nobody saw coming.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jan 23, 2019 15:56:29 GMT
The bias and sjw moral stance of the Academy is becoming more and more apparent. What can we do?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 23, 2019 16:02:44 GMT
The bias and sjw moral stance of the Academy is becoming more and more apparent. What can we do? Make horror movies more accessible and less disturbing. Voters are not required to see things they don’t want to see.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on Jan 23, 2019 16:11:25 GMT
Make horror movies more accessible and less disturbing. Voters are not required to see things they don’t want to see. I don't advocate for the neutering of horror films.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 23, 2019 16:20:38 GMT
Make horror movies more accessible and less disturbing. Voters are not required to see things they don’t want to see. I don't advocate for the neutering of horror films. which is fine it just means they won’t get nominated to often.
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Post by Vits on Jan 23, 2019 16:24:38 GMT
But not The Godfather, which did win screenplay. Thanks, but we went through that already. The bias and sjw moral stance of the Academy is becoming more and more apparent. From perhaps the best horror film of the year HEREDITARY: Toni Collette Actress Alex Wolff Supp Actor What does that movie have to do with SJW's?
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Post by Vits on Jan 24, 2019 11:08:36 GMT
You are smart, think about it vits. I wouldn't have asked you without thinking about it first.
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Post by Vits on Jan 24, 2019 18:47:50 GMT
Well, in this case, you haven't put much thought into it. Usually when people go out of their way to not answer a question is because they can't. It's more noteworthy in a forum where you waste time and space writing things like this that you could've used just answering.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 24, 2019 23:21:57 GMT
No doc nod for Won't You Be My Neighbor astonished me. It's the only doc this year anyone is even talking about.
Then again, that branch has always been weird. No nods for Thin Blue Line in 88 and Hoop Dreams in 94? F**cking loonies.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 24, 2019 23:25:56 GMT
Not surprising entirely but still, not even something for cinematography?
Mandy was deemed ineligible for Oscar consideration by the Academy.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 24, 2019 23:33:06 GMT
You are smart, think about it vits. I wouldn't have asked you without thinking about it first. I understand what Toasted Cheese is saying. He is saying that Hereditary was shut out because it is a horror movie that has no sjw agenda, and everybody know that the Academy has a bias against horror movies. Get Out was ONLY nominated for Oscars because it is a sjw movie.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 24, 2019 23:53:44 GMT
Not surprising entirely but still, not even something for cinematography?
Mandy was deemed ineligible for Oscar consideration by the Academy. Really, how come?
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 25, 2019 0:09:03 GMT
Mandy was deemed ineligible for Oscar consideration by the Academy. Really, how come? Mandy was released on VOD on Friday, September 14th. On the same day the film began showing at the Laemmle Monica Film Theater in Santa Monica, LA County. It ran for seven days, finishing on Thursday, September 20th. So from this, it would appear that Mandy would have been eligible, at least according to the online guidelines. But the reality was apparently contained in the comment on IndieWire, where it was stated to be eligible the film needs to have been “released in one week in Los Angeles with a minimum of three screenings per day.”
Mandy did not meet this requirement.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 25, 2019 0:18:29 GMT
Mandy was released on VOD on Friday, September 14th. On the same day the film began showing at the Laemmle Monica Film Theater in Santa Monica, LA County. It ran for seven days, finishing on Thursday, September 20th. So from this, it would appear that Mandy would have been eligible, at least according to the online guidelines. But the reality was apparently contained in the comment on IndieWire, where it was stated to be eligible the film needs to have been “released in one week in Los Angeles with a minimum of three screenings per day.”
Mandy did not meet this requirement.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 25, 2019 0:22:43 GMT
Mandy was released on VOD on Friday, September 14th. On the same day the film began showing at the Laemmle Monica Film Theater in Santa Monica, LA County. It ran for seven days, finishing on Thursday, September 20th. So from this, it would appear that Mandy would have been eligible, at least according to the online guidelines. But the reality was apparently contained in the comment on IndieWire, where it was stated to be eligible the film needs to have been “released in one week in Los Angeles with a minimum of three screenings per day.”
Mandy did not meet this requirement. I don't think it would have been nominated even if it had been eligible though.
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Post by Vits on Jan 25, 2019 0:23:29 GMT
I understand what Toasted Cheese is saying. He is saying that Hereditary was shut out because it is a horror movie that has no sjw agenda, and everybody know that the Academy has a bias against horror movies. Get Out was ONLY nominated because it is a sjw movie. Ahhh... OK, you can understand my confusion, right? T.C.'s post seemed like he was calling HEREDITARY an S.J.W. movie. With that out of the way... All of that is wrong. No, I didn't mean "I disagree with your opinion." You stated something that it's factually wrong. While there are some horror movies that were good enough to deserve a nomination and didn't, it's impossible for there to be a bias. Otherwise, no horror movie would've been nominated, let alone won. Biased people don't do exceptions, because they're already too blind-sided by their emotional reaction to begin with. GET OUT was a very well-made movie that didn't just rely on acknowledging that racism exist; it used it as subtext. Actually, I doubt that the intention was for the viewer to come out of the theatre pondering how wrong is it to discriminate, because the movie didn't even focus on racism that much (so could it be a S.J.W. movie?); it focused on ignorance. The way that a person can try so hard not to be racist that they still end up generalizing and offending. Did it have flaws? Sure (mostly the final part), but so did HEREDITARY for that matter. So did every single movie ever made. What makes a movie good isn't that the audience doesn't see the flaws, but rather that the good aspects feel like they're outweighing the bad ones. Since that comes down to what the viewer gets from the movie, it's subjective. If the bad aspects bothered you so much that they outweighed the good ones, you're not wrong in disliking GET OUT... but to claim that someone would only call it one of the best of the year with a hidden reason? And with a derogatory term like S.J.W.? That's disrespectful.
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Post by Vits on Jan 25, 2019 0:27:01 GMT
I don't think it would have been nominated even if it had been eligible though. I think you're right. MANDY has received very few nominations throughout the season. The only "big one" has been the Independent Spirit Awards... and even there it wasn't nominated for Best Score.
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Post by moviemouth on Jan 25, 2019 0:30:33 GMT
I understand what Toasted Cheese is saying. He is saying that Hereditary was shut out because it is a horror movie that has no sjw agenda, and everybody know that the Academy has a bias against horror movies. Get Out was ONLY nominated because it is a sjw movie. Ahhh... OK, you can understand my confusion, right? T.C.'s post seemed like he was calling HEREDITARY an S.J.W. movie. With that out of the way... All of that is wrong. No, I didn't mean "I disagree with your opinion." You stated something that it's factually wrong. While there are some horror movies that were good enough to deserve a nomination and didn't, it's impossible for there to be a bias. Otherwise, no horror movie would've been nominated, let alone won. Biased people don't do exceptions, because they're already too blind-sided by their emotional reaction to begin with. GET OUT was a very well-made movie that didn't just rely on acknowledging that racism exist; it used it as subtext. Actually, I doubt that the intention was for the viewer to come out of the theatre pondering how wrong is it to discriminate, because the movie didn't even focus on racism that much (so could it be a S.J.W. movie?); it focused on ignorance. The way that a person can try so hard not to be racist that they still end up generalizing and offending. Did it have flaws? Sure (mostly the final part), but so did HEREDITARY for that matter. So did every single movie ever made. What makes a movie good isn't that the audience doesn't see the flaws, but rather that the good aspects feel like they're outweighing the bad ones. Since that comes down to what the viewer gets from the movie, it's subjective. If the bad aspects bothered you so much that they outweighed the good ones, you're not wrong in disliking GET OUT... but to claim that someone would only call it one of the best of the year with a hidden reason? And with a derogatory term like S.J.W.? That's disrespectful. I don't really understand your confusion. Get Out would have NEVER have been nominated without the race aspect. NEVER. Do you know how many horror movies have been nominated for Oscars (even a technical nomination) since 1970? Something like 10. This shows a clear bias against the genre. Bias people do make exceptions. I know this because I have biases and I have made exceptions.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jan 25, 2019 1:19:23 GMT
Ahhh... OK, you can understand my confusion, right? T.C.'s post seemed like he was calling HEREDITARY an S.J.W. movie. With that out of the way... All of that is wrong. No, I didn't mean "I disagree with your opinion." You stated something that it's factually wrong. While there are some horror movies that were good enough to deserve a nomination and didn't, it's impossible for there to be a bias. Otherwise, no horror movie would've been nominated, let alone won. Biased people don't do exceptions, because they're already too blind-sided by their emotional reaction to begin with. GET OUT was a very well-made movie that didn't just rely on acknowledging that racism exist; it used it as subtext. Actually, I doubt that the intention was for the viewer to come out of the theatre pondering how wrong is it to discriminate, because the movie didn't even focus on racism that much (so could it be a S.J.W. movie?); it focused on ignorance. The way that a person can try so hard not to be racist that they still end up generalizing and offending. Did it have flaws? Sure (mostly the final part), but so did HEREDITARY for that matter. So did every single movie ever made. What makes a movie good isn't that the audience doesn't see the flaws, but rather that the good aspects feel like they're outweighing the bad ones. Since that comes down to what the viewer gets from the movie, it's subjective. If the bad aspects bothered you so much that they outweighed the good ones, you're not wrong in disliking GET OUT... but to claim that someone would only call it one of the best of the year with a hidden reason? And with a derogatory term like S.J.W.? That's disrespectful. I don't really understand your confusion. Get Out would have NEVER have been nominated without the race aspect. NEVER. You mean Get Out wouldn’t have been nominated if it would’ve had a completely different theme, plot, etc...? Oh really?
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