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Post by Vits on Jan 28, 2019 11:58:31 GMT
You love to play devil's advocate Who's the devil in this situation? Even if you don't like the movies we're talking about (and you're the minority), they're not doing anything wrong to anyone. Geez... You still haven't answered me. This is amazing! A whole new level of deflection and denial! Don't worry. Unlike you, I'm patient. Whenever you're ready to continue the conversation in a civil manner, I'll be ready.
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Post by Vits on Jan 28, 2019 16:10:05 GMT
This is a childish response. It's childish to point out how a popular expression doesn't apply to this situation by the use of logic, which if you had used you would've realized that it doesn't apply? Regarding whatever it is you want to tell me or discuss on this thread, you have nothing to offer me that will resonate and I have nothing to tell you that you want to hear. I guess we'll never know if you don't try. Also, if you're that concerned about what I want to hear read, why do yo continue to avoid answering?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 28, 2019 16:59:34 GMT
I don't know if its the MOST surprising but Emily Blunt had a great fucking year and got totally snubbed. Her performance in A Quiet Place is top notch. Have anyone else try doing a pregnancy scene while she has to be silent and see if it convinces as much as she did. Then Mary Poppins Returns... she sings, she dances, she stays in character, and she makes you forget about Julie Andrews. No easy feat. Others have been nominated for less! They don't have to give her the win, but one nomination for either would've been nice.
Name another young actor who works as hard as Michael B. Jordan has on both Creed movies.
Also, I know the industry at large is staying away from Bryan Singer because of accusations, but a movie (Bohemian Rhapsody) just doesn't direct itself.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Jan 28, 2019 17:28:24 GMT
Is this going to be the year that a Marvel film wins best Picture? It wouldn't surprise me if it won because of it's popularity and who we have in the White House. Ya know. For payback based on skin tone.
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Post by Vits on Jan 28, 2019 18:39:08 GMT
Also, I know the industry at large is staying away from Bryan Singer because of accusations, but a movie (Bohemian Rhapsody) just doesn't direct itself. Oh, but that's not why he wasn't nominated. It wouldn't surprise me if it won because of it's popularity and who we have in the White House. Ya know. For payback based on skin tone. Assuming that was the mentality that goes into the voting process, wouldn't they vote for the movie that shows the loving relationship between dark-skinned Mexicans and white Mexicans?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 28, 2019 18:57:47 GMT
Also, I know the industry at large is staying away from Bryan Singer because of accusations, but a movie (Bohemian Rhapsody) just doesn't direct itself. Oh, but that's not why he wasn't nominated. Then you know something I don't.
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Post by Vits on Jan 28, 2019 19:35:58 GMT
Then you know something I don't. The Academy would not-not nominate someone for being accused of a crime when proven criminals have won in the past. Sure, people are more sensitive to this topic now than before, but it doesn't mean that there weren't complains back then. They choose based on merit, and I think most people will tell you that the directing in B.R. didn't excell. Also, there are thousands of voters. There's no way they got together and agreed to snub 1 individual. If that was the case, the nominations wouldn't have included anything that would cause a backlash. Also-also, there are 10 Best Picture slots and 5 Best Director slots. Not every Best Picture nominee can also be a Best Director nominee.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 19:41:36 GMT
Leave No Trace. I just looked and there is no trace of that movie in the nominees.
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Post by WarrenPeace on Jan 28, 2019 20:51:20 GMT
Also, I know the industry at large is staying away from Bryan Singer because of accusations, but a movie (Bohemian Rhapsody) just doesn't direct itself. Oh, but that's not why he wasn't nominated. It wouldn't surprise me if it won because of it's popularity and who we have in the White House. Ya know. For payback based on skin tone. Assuming that was the mentality that goes into the voting process, wouldn't they vote for the movie that shows the loving relationship between dark-skinned Mexicans and white Mexicans? What movie is that? Remember all the backlash they got when no black themed movies were nominated and then the next year a black themed movie got BP? Yeah, it'll be like that. I dunno if BlacKKKlansman is Oscar worthy based on content or skin color. Would Spike get it for merit or white guilt?
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Post by Vits on Jan 28, 2019 21:11:47 GMT
ROMA. Remember all the backlash they got when no black themed movies were nominated and then the next year a black themed movie got BP? That's not what happened. There was backlash on 2015 (the year after a black themed movie won Best Picture) about the lack of nominated black people. There was the same backlash on 2016, meaning that the members don't actually vote based on these things. The fact that there have been black people nominated since 2017 (when MOONLIGHT won (that's the movie you were talking about, right?)) means that they're getting more jobs opportunities.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 29, 2019 19:32:23 GMT
I don't know if its the MOST surprising but Emily Blunt had a great fucking year and got totally snubbed. Her performance in A Quiet Place is top notch. Have anyone else try doing a pregnancy scene while she has to be silent and see if it convinces as much as she did. Then Mary Poppins Returns... she sings, she dances, she stays in character, and she makes you forget about Julie Andrews. No easy feat. Others have been nominated for less! They don't have to give her the win, but one nomination for either would've been nice.
Name another young actor who works as hard as Michael B. Jordan has on both Creed movies.
Also, I know the industry at large is staying away from Bryan Singer because of accusations, but a movie (Bohemian Rhapsody) just doesn't direct itself. And the industry knows what was\is going on, they just turn a blind eye, until the projected social climate dictates otherwise. This^.
Agree and disagree, Vits
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Post by Vits on Jan 29, 2019 23:41:46 GMT
How? That seems contradictory.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 29, 2019 23:52:35 GMT
This is how I agree and disagree:
The Academy would not-not nominate someone for being accused of a crime when proven criminals have won in the past. AGREE
Sure, people are more sensitive to this topic now than before AGREE
They choose based on merit, and I think most people will tell you that the directing in B.R. didn't excell. DISAGREE
Also, there are thousands of voters. There's no way they got together and agreed to snub 1 individual. If that was the case, the nominations wouldn't have included anything that would cause a backlash. DISAGREE. The mentality in Hollywood spreads like a virus and people learn which side to be on real quick.
there are 10 Best Picture slots and 5 Best Director slots. AGREE
Not every Best Picture nominee can also be a Best Director nominee. UNLESS THEY'RE NOMINATING MOVIES THEY REALLY THINK ARE THE BEST. IN THAT BOTH WOULD GET THE NOMINATIONS. THAT'S HOW YOU CAN TELL WHEN THEY'RE JUST THROWING A MOVIE A BONE.
Its always been my opinion that a movie cant be the best unless the directing was the best. As a matter of fact that should just be one award. The best picture IS the outcome of the best directing that happened that year. How can a movie be the best without good directing? Again, good movies don't direct themselves.
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