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Post by leesilm on Jan 23, 2019 1:32:34 GMT
Just curious-- Assuming that Chris Pine was always going to come back, and that they will have to explain it somehow in WW84, which one is your preference?
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Post by politicidal on Jan 23, 2019 6:04:55 GMT
Anything involving like a passing resemblance or a descendant is just going to seem weird. CA: Winter Soldier and Civil War both voided falling into that by the skin of their teeth.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 23, 2019 15:20:46 GMT
We already know it is going to be a resurrected Steve.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 23, 2019 15:21:10 GMT
I suppose a reincarnation could work. Magic is a part of Wonder Womans world and could be an explanation.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jan 23, 2019 15:21:36 GMT
We already know it is going to be a resurrected Steve. Link please...? |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 23, 2019 19:55:12 GMT
Dead. Just dead.
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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 24, 2019 2:04:31 GMT
I forgot which Troll Proved it but wouldn't Steve coming back negate his Sacrifice in WW retroactively. Like how Steve in the MCU's Sacrifice in First Avenger was negated because he didn't die. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 24, 2019 2:06:10 GMT
I forgot which Troll Proved it but wouldn't Steve coming back negate his Sacrifice in WW retroactively. Like how Steve in the MCU's Sacrifice in First Avenger was negated because he didn't die. I believe it was DC-Fan. Can you confirm, bro? |
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Post by James on Jan 24, 2019 3:34:02 GMT
Look-alike with some connection. I don’t like the idea of resurrecting him.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 24, 2019 8:43:07 GMT
I forgot which Troll Proved it but wouldn't Steve coming back negate his Sacrifice in WW retroactively. Like how Steve in the MCU's Sacrifice in First Avenger was negated because he didn't die. No, it wouldn't negate Trevor's sacrifice because unlike Rogers (who never actually died in First Avenger and thus never sacrificed himself in First Avenger), Trevor did actually die in WW and thus did sacrifice himself in WW and if Trevor coming back in WW1984 is only temporary and at the end of WW1984 Trevor remains dead, then it doesn't negate Trevor's sacrifice in WW. So good try, but you fail again. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Jan 24, 2019 14:00:08 GMT
Exactly. This would be like if Rachel was brought back and returned in The Dark Knight Rises. It ruins the previous film. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Jan 25, 2019 18:59:28 GMT
I agree with Hauntedknight87 and Lord Death Man that the character should have been left dead, but if they had to bring him back, yeah, resurrection is probably the best way to go. Someone here (I think it might have been politicidal?) said he, or a duplicate, should be brought back by the villain, Hades or Ares or some other god, to tempt WW into forgetting her responsibilities or something. I thought and still think that would be a grand way for them to have their cake and eat it too: bring the character back but also not shortchange his sacrifice at the end of the movie. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 19:33:26 GMT
I also agree that Steve should stay dead. Bringing him back is totally stupid, negates his sacrifice and is a desperate attempt to keep Pine as a costar.
Besides, Diane has basically been a gorgeous twenty five year old for six decades since WWI! Are you telling me she never met anyone else?! It's not like she and Steve were married. Get over it, Wonder Woman!
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Post by sostie on Jan 25, 2019 19:45:11 GMT
Evil cyborg doppelganger
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jan 25, 2019 19:52:03 GMT
Clone?
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Post by sostie on Jan 25, 2019 19:53:00 GMT
I forgot which Troll Proved it but wouldn't Steve coming back negate his Sacrifice in WW retroactively. Like how Steve in the MCU's Sacrifice in First Avenger was negated because he didn't die. No, it wouldn't negate Trevor's sacrifice because unlike Rogers (who never actually died in First Avenger and thus never sacrificed himself in First Avenger), Trevor did actually die in WW and thus did sacrifice himself in WW and if Trevor coming back in WW1984 is only temporary and at the end of WW1984 Trevor remains dead, then it doesn't negate Trevor's sacrifice in WW. So good try, but you fail again. It's amazing that despite it being explained to you a number of times, and various definitions shown to you, you still do not understand the definition of "sacrifice" |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 25, 2019 20:26:24 GMT
No, it wouldn't negate Trevor's sacrifice because unlike Rogers (who never actually died in First Avenger and thus never sacrificed himself in First Avenger), Trevor did actually die in WW and thus did sacrifice himself in WW and if Trevor coming back in WW1984 is only temporary and at the end of WW1984 Trevor remains dead, then it doesn't negate Trevor's sacrifice in WW. So good try, but you fail again. It's amazing that despite it being explained to you a number of times, and various definitions shown to you, you still do not understand the definition of "sacrifice" Steve Rogers' life in the 1940s: No video recorders No microwave ovens No MRIs No GPS No mobile phones No voicemail No E-mail No digital cameras No Internet Steve Rogers' life in the 2010s: Video Recorders Microwave ovens MRIs GPS Mobile Phones Voicemail E-mail Digital Cameras Internet Looks life Steve Rogers' life has gotten much better since he woke up in 2011. Hardly an sacrifice at all. And like I've said before, claiming that Steve Rogers (who now lives in a world with many technological and medical advances that weren't available in the 1940s) made a sacrifice is an insult to the soldiers who actually lost their lives or limbs in World War II and other wars. Steve Rogers not only didn't make a sacrifice, but Steve Rogers life has actually improved a hell of a lot since he woke up in 2011. |
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Post by sostie on Jan 25, 2019 20:47:23 GMT
It's amazing that despite it being explained to you a number of times, and various definitions shown to you, you still do not understand the definition of "sacrifice" Steve Rogers' life in the 1940s: No video recorders No microwave ovens No MRIs No GPS No mobile phones No voicemail No E-mail No digital cameras No Internet Steve Rogers' life in the 2010s: Video Recorders Microwave ovens MRIs GPS Mobile Phones Voicemail E-mail Digital Cameras Internet Looks life Steve Rogers' life has gotten much better since he woke up in 2011. Hardly an sacrifice at all. And like I've said before, claiming that Steve Rogers (who now lives in a world with many technological and medical advances that weren't available in the 1940s) made a sacrifice is an insult to the soldiers who actually lost their lives or limbs in World War II and other wars. Steve Rogers not only didn't make a sacrifice, but Steve Rogers life has actually improved a hell of a lot since he woke up in 2011. Yup....you still don't understand |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jan 25, 2019 21:25:07 GMT
It's amazing that despite it being explained to you a number of times, and various definitions shown to you, you still do not understand the definition of "sacrifice" Steve Rogers' life in the 1940s: No video recorders No microwave ovens No MRIs No GPS No mobile phones No voicemail No E-mail No digital cameras No Internet Steve Rogers' life in the 2010s: Video Recorders Microwave ovens MRIs GPS Mobile Phones Voicemail E-mail Digital Cameras Internet Looks life Steve Rogers' life has gotten much better since he woke up in 2011. Hardly an sacrifice at all. And like I've said before, claiming that Steve Rogers (who now lives in a world with many technological and medical advances that weren't available in the 1940s) made a sacrifice is an insult to the soldiers who actually lost their lives or limbs in World War II and other wars. Steve Rogers not only didn't make a sacrifice, but Steve Rogers life has actually improved a hell of a lot since he woke up in 2011.He sacrificed a life together with the woman of his dreams. |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 25, 2019 21:34:28 GMT
Can't he just be some hallucination/dream/trick by the villain?
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