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Post by general313 on Jan 26, 2019 2:21:27 GMT
What does whatever you think common sense is, have to do with this issue? Too bad you don't know what something is, make a statement that you stick to about it, and then stand by your own standards. You claim not to be religious then next minute you are. There are lots of things about organized religion that I don't buy into. That's why I say I'm not religious. I don't think Jesus was religious either. It's more to do with spirituality. It would serve you to use the commonly accepted definition of the word religious and the noun form religion: religion : the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. Note that there is nothing specific about organized religion in that definition.
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Post by maya55555 on Jan 26, 2019 4:40:28 GMT
猫の男
チワワを怒らせるな。

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Post by heeeeey on Jan 26, 2019 15:30:40 GMT
There are lots of things about organized religion that I don't buy into. That's why I say I'm not religious. I don't think Jesus was religious either. It's more to do with spirituality. No-one, specified 'organised' religion, least of all you. If you believe in God or a creator, then you are religious. It seems that you are. Jesus must have been religious if he believed in God. And what if an intelligent Creator were scientifically proven? Would it still be religious if it were a scientifically proven fact?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 26, 2019 16:23:11 GMT
No-one, specified 'organised' religion, least of all you. If you believe in God or a creator, then you are religious. It seems that you are. Jesus must have been religious if he believed in God. And what if an intelligent Creator were scientifically proven? Would it still be religious if it were a scientifically proven fact? When that happens please feel free to link here to the peer-reviewed research behind the proof.
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Post by heeeeey on Jan 26, 2019 16:27:14 GMT
And what if an intelligent Creator were scientifically proven? Would it still be religious if it were a scientifically proven fact? When that happens please feel free to link here to the peer-reviewed research behind the proof. Then what? Your ass would have to admit you had always been wrong?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 26, 2019 16:38:20 GMT
When that happens please feel free to link here to the peer-reviewed research behind the proof. Then what? Your ass would have to admit you had always been wrong? Not really. Saying "there is currently no scientific evidence for God" is a perfectly valid statement. Even if actual scientific evidence were to eventually come about for a "divine creator", you can't really say someone was "wrong" before because there was no actual legitimate evidence for God at the time.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jan 26, 2019 16:43:05 GMT
When that happens please feel free to link here to the peer-reviewed research behind the proof. Then what? Your ass would have to admit you had always been wrong? One of my red lines, (an event compelling immediate conversion) would be positive scientific evidence for a deliberate supernatural first cause, a discovery surviving peer review, which admits of no other interpretation. Of course which god might be another question. So, my dear troll: fetch! So, while we are waiting, and if you think you have an open mind in your pretend position, perhaps you can think of anything positive you would accept as falsifying a god?
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Post by goz on Jan 27, 2019 2:10:36 GMT
No-one, specified 'organised' religion, least of all you. If you believe in God or a creator, then you are religious. It seems that you are. Jesus must have been religious if he believed in God. And what if an intelligent Creator were scientifically proven? Would it still be religious if it were a scientifically proven fact? You don't 'get' it do you? Since the definition of religion is believing in a god, it is immaterial whether that god is scientifically proven or not.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jan 29, 2019 12:33:04 GMT
I see too many stupid questions here about God and Jesus to bother with. ... Rather than answer questions with a logical argument, which you are unable to provide, you turn your back and thumb your nose at the question(s).
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Post by progressiveelement on Jan 29, 2019 13:48:14 GMT
You have all the intellect of a lobotomized newt.
Clearly, nothing you understand will be too advanced for anyone with an IQ of more than a single digit.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jan 29, 2019 13:59:22 GMT
When that happens please feel free to link here to the peer-reviewed research behind the proof. Then what? Your ass would have to admit you had always been wrong? I wonder if people still have these arguments after they die.
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Post by drystyx on Jan 29, 2019 17:58:39 GMT
I see too many stupid questions here about God and Jesus to bother with. ... Rather than answer questions with a logical argument, which you are unable to provide, you turn your back and thumb your nose at the question(s). Then you proved her point in the original OP, didn't you? That her knowledge and understanding is too advanced for your brainwashed mind. Well, now that you proved her point, surely you'll admit her original post is now proven correct. Good. You've taken the first step to not being one of the sheep of Western culture.
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Post by goz on Jan 29, 2019 19:57:17 GMT
Rather than answer questions with a logical argument, which you are unable to provide, you turn your back and thumb your nose at the question(s). Then you proved her point in the original OP, didn't you? That her knowledge and understanding is too advanced for your brainwashed mind. Well, now that you proved her point, surely you'll admit her original post is now proven correct. Good. You've taken the first step to not being one of the sheep of Western culture. ….you conveniently forgot the bit about 'a logical argument which she is unable to prove or even provide evidence' and DOESN'T even try. I haven't see you make an attempt at a logical argument with any evidence, either...beyond the most naïve and ridiculous nonsense about devils and demons. I do wish you total morons woud stop talking about arguments being proven by your inadequacies! (ie lack of proof) It can be cute, butt is now becoming tiresome. [/quote]
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Post by drystyx on Jan 29, 2019 20:23:31 GMT
Then you proved her point in the original OP, didn't you? That her knowledge and understanding is too advanced for your brainwashed mind. Well, now that you proved her point, surely you'll admit her original post is now proven correct. Good. You've taken the first step to not being one of the sheep of Western culture. ….you conveniently forgot the bit about 'a logical argument which she is unable to prove or even provide evidence' and DOESN'T even try. I haven't see you make an attempt at a logical argument with any evidence, either...beyond the most naïve and ridiculous nonsense about devils and demons. I do wish you total morons woud stop talking about arguments being proven by your inadequacies! (ie lack of proof) It can be cute, butt is now becoming tiresome. I've always shown proof. Difference is that I show mathematical and Geometric proof, which is unflawed, whereas you and your mob just quote off what flawed humans say, usually from the internet in what is undeniably the "misinformation age". The very unprovoked divisiveness not only in the world, not only in the U.S. (and your Australia), but in cities themselves, disproves almost every post your mob makes and proves every point I make. It also proves demonic influence. "Greed" doesn't explain it, because it isn't a case of you humans saying "I want to make money, so how do I do it?" Instead, it's a case of "I want to spread hate and senseless divisiveness, so how can I make money doing that". Every politician proves it. Every corporation proves it. Every one of your mob proves it. That's why "Hey" and others who are wise enough to see this, are in an understanding that you and your mob want to stick your heads in the sand to avoid. You have no concept of reality, and live in a delusion. You and your gang actually think you make sense, but you don't. Your delusion in that regard further proves my point, and the point Hey makes in her OP. If that's tiresome, then the truth is tiresome, and I agree. It's the world of the enemy of all of us. Denying that is the road to Ignorance.
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Post by goz on Jan 29, 2019 20:52:03 GMT
What total bollocks!
You and Heeeeey are alike in that you have NO IDEA about scientific and academic learning, being wilfully ignorant and spreading superstitious nonsense.
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Post by drystyx on Jan 29, 2019 21:19:29 GMT
What total bollocks! You and Heeeeey are alike in that you have NO IDEA about scientific and academic learning, being wilfully ignorant and spreading superstitious nonsense. The opposite. It's totally clear we're well educated. And you prove you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be a sheep who believes in the false interpretations of the data. The difference is that we look at how the data is collected, who benefits, who thinks he or she benefits, who pays for it, what it actually means, and that is something no University I ever attended wants its students to do. That's why Hey and other "free thinking minds" are in a dimension above you. We see the cage that you don't even realize is there. We see the guard come in and toss one orange peel for 30 people, and you just see the 30 people. You don't even want to see the cage. You just want to join in the divisiveness and delusion that you're not in a cage. Yes, you and the other sheep have proved her point. She needs to thank you.
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Post by goz on Jan 29, 2019 21:26:25 GMT
What total bollocks! You and Heeeeey are alike in that you have NO IDEA about scientific and academic learning, being wilfully ignorant and spreading superstitious nonsense. The opposite. It's totally clear we're well educated. And you prove you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be a sheep who believes in the false interpretations of the data. The difference is that we look at how the data is collected, who benefits, who thinks he or she benefits, who pays for it, what it actually means, and that is something no University I ever attended wants its students to do. That's why Hey and other "free thinking minds" are in a dimension above you. We see the cage that you don't even realize is there. We see the guard come in and toss one orange peel for 30 people, and you just see the 30 people. You don't even want to see the cage. You just want to join in the divisiveness and delusion that you're not in a cage. Yes, you and the other sheep have proved her point. She needs to thank you. ^ ^ I think you may be creeping ahead of Heeeeey in the Dunning Kruger stakes with this post, though you are a TOTAL winner in the delusional insane stakes. You are on your own there despite blaming Cool for being insane!   It is sad that there are people like you in the United Stated ( and not just there, butt the election of Trump re-enforces this position)) who are so isolated by your lack of education, your naivete, your brainwashing into religion that is not helpful in your life, and your wilful ignorance not to acknowledge any of these serious issues. I feel sorry for you and the world worries where this anti-intellectualism will end.
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Post by drystyx on Jan 29, 2019 21:37:10 GMT
The opposite. It's totally clear we're well educated. And you prove you're not, otherwise you wouldn't be a sheep who believes in the false interpretations of the data. The difference is that we look at how the data is collected, who benefits, who thinks he or she benefits, who pays for it, what it actually means, and that is something no University I ever attended wants its students to do. That's why Hey and other "free thinking minds" are in a dimension above you. We see the cage that you don't even realize is there. We see the guard come in and toss one orange peel for 30 people, and you just see the 30 people. You don't even want to see the cage. You just want to join in the divisiveness and delusion that you're not in a cage. Yes, you and the other sheep have proved her point. She needs to thank you. ^ ^ I think you may be creeping ahead of Heeeeey in the Dunning Kruger stakes with this post, though you are a TOTAL winner in the delusional insane stakes. You are on your own there despite blaming Cool for being insane!   It is sad that there are people like you in the United Stated ( and not just there, butt the election of Trump re-enforces this position)) who are so isolated by your lack of education, your naivete, your brainwashing into religion that is not helpful in your life, and your wilful ignorance not to acknowledge any of these serious issues. I feel sorry for you and the world worries where this anti-intellectualism will end. Thank you for so perfectly illustrating my point and proving it. I appreciate that. Thank you.
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Post by goz on Jan 29, 2019 22:58:54 GMT
^ ^ I think you may be creeping ahead of Heeeeey in the Dunning Kruger stakes with this post, though you are a TOTAL winner in the delusional insane stakes. You are on your own there despite blaming Cool for being insane!   It is sad that there are people like you in the United Stated ( and not just there, butt the election of Trump re-enforces this position)) who are so isolated by your lack of education, your naivete, your brainwashing into religion that is not helpful in your life, and your wilful ignorance not to acknowledge any of these serious issues. I feel sorry for you and the world worries where this anti-intellectualism will end. Thank you for so perfectly illustrating my point and proving it. I appreciate that. Thank you. ...and the same to you.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Jan 30, 2019 1:03:20 GMT
Some of them will say any number of nice things about Jesus, but they will NOT acknowledge Him as the Savior.Why do you need a savior erj? What is he saving you from? Only you can save yourself from yourself, that is what it is all about.
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