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Post by basmaticathury on Jan 28, 2019 22:35:31 GMT
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Post by Cody™ on Jan 28, 2019 22:45:14 GMT
I don’t know how old the earth is. But neither does science. Sure it does. Don't confuse your ignorance with other people not knowing things. Could the date change within the next 100 years? |
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Post by Isapop on Jan 28, 2019 22:52:21 GMT
Sure it does. Don't confuse your ignorance with other people not knowing things. Could the date change within the next 100 years? Well of course! It'll be 100 years older then!
Gee Cody, you can be really silly sometimes!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 22:56:30 GMT
Could the date change within the next 100 years? Well of course! It'll be 100 years older then!
Gee Cody, you can be really silly sometimes!
Damn, that's so much better than what I was going to say. Bravo!  |
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Post by Cody™ on Jan 28, 2019 22:57:24 GMT
Could the date change within the next 100 years? Well of course! It'll be 100 years older then!
Gee Cody, you can be really silly sometimes!
The estimate of the age of the earth. Around 150 years ago they thought it was 98million years old. 50 years later it jumped from millions to 3.3bilion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 22:59:43 GMT
Well of course! It'll be 100 years older then!
Gee Cody, you can be really silly sometimes!
The estimate of the age of the earth. Yes. As he said, it will increase by 100 years. So what? |
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 28, 2019 22:59:55 GMT
I don't understand how anyone can accept... That God created the Earth 12,000 (or whatever) years ago...
And then placed a bunch of Dinosaur Bones (among MANY other ancient things) under the surface of the planet... "To test us, by questioning his existence!"
That's about the dumbest thing, I have ever heard... Because, I thought God WANTED us to believe in him... So why make things so overwhelmingly opposite, that most people will think otherwise?
Scientists say that the Earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old... Who knows if that is truly "correct", since no one was around to witness that... But, it has to be a far more accurate theory!
I'll believe that for now, until new discoveries are made that prove something else to be true.
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Post by Cody™ on Jan 28, 2019 23:04:03 GMT
The estimate of the age of the earth. Yes. As he said, it will increase by 100 years. So what? You know what I mean. Do you think it’s possible that in the next 100 years the estimate could go from 4.5billion to say 5billion or even decrease with the discovery of new additional information? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 23:04:52 GMT
I don't understand how anyone can accept... That God created the Earth 12,000 (or whatever) years ago... And then placed a bunch of Dinosaur Bones (among MANY other ancient things) under the surface of the planet... " To test us, by questioning his existence!" That's about the dumbest thing, I have ever heard... Because, I thought God WANTED us to believe in him... So why make things so overwhelmingly opposite, that most people will think otherwise? Not to mention that it would be a very dishonest thing to do. If creationists are right, then their god is a flat out liar. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 23:06:07 GMT
Yes. As he said, it will increase by 100 years. So what? You know what I mean. No, I really don't. No, that is not possible. The only thing that is going to happen in the next 100 years is that the error bars are probably going to shrink. |
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Post by Cody™ on Jan 28, 2019 23:14:12 GMT
No, I really don't. No, that is not possible. The only thing that is going to happen in the next 100 years is that the error bars are probably going to shrink. So you’re saying it’s impossible for science to discover a more reliable and accurate technique than radiometric dating to estimate the age of the earth in the near future? |
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Post by goz on Jan 28, 2019 23:15:13 GMT
No, I really don't. No, that is not possible. The only thing that is going to happen in the next 100 years is that the error bars are probably going to shrink. ...does that mean statistically, that MORE people are going to walk into a bar? |
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Post by llanwydd on Jan 28, 2019 23:15:45 GMT
There is also a theory suggesting that the universe can be both 6000 years old and 14.5 billion years old. Something to do with the "time dilation" principle, one of many subjects beyond my comprehension.
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Post by general313 on Jan 28, 2019 23:28:09 GMT
There is also a theory suggesting that the universe can be both 6000 years old and 14.5 billion years old. Something to do with the "time dilation" principle, one of many subjects beyond my comprehension. There's also the Schrodinger's God theory, where quantum mechanics allows for the simultaneous existence and non-existence of God. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 23:48:09 GMT
No, I really don't. No, that is not possible. The only thing that is going to happen in the next 100 years is that the error bars are probably going to shrink. So you’re saying it’s impossible for science to discover a more reliable and accurate technique than radiometric dating to estimate the age of the earth in the near future? No. I'm saying that more reliable and accurate technique would confirm the current estimate and narrow its range. For instance, the current estimate is 4,540 ±50 megayears. Your hypothetical better technique would alter the base value to somewhere between 4,490 and 4,590 megayears, and reduce the ±50 to some lower value. |
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Post by captainbryce on Jan 29, 2019 1:03:03 GMT
No, I really don't. No, that is not possible. The only thing that is going to happen in the next 100 years is that the error bars are probably going to shrink. So you’re saying it’s impossible for science to discover a more reliable and accurate technique than radiometric dating to estimate the age of the earth in the near future? No, that's kind of the OPPOSITE of what he's saying. Error bars shrinking means that the evidence is more reliable and accurate. In any case, where are you going with this? |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jan 29, 2019 1:10:09 GMT
Yes. As he said, it will increase by 100 years. So what? You know what I mean. Do you think it’s possible that in the next 100 years the estimate could go from 4.5billion to say 5billion or even decrease with the discovery of new additional information? It's theoretically possible, but it's highly unlikely. The technology/methods used today has obviously improved over the years since the 1800s when scientists though the Earth was only 100 million years old. As the methods improved and we got more accurate numbers, we saw "diminishing returns" in accuracy (by the 1911 we believe the earth to be 1 billion years old, by 1941 they moved it to 3 billion). Eventually perhaps we could find more accurate measurements of the earth, but it's probably going to be maybe something like 4.6 or 4.7 billion years, but not some ridiculously different number like 6000 years or anything. |
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Post by rizdek on Jan 29, 2019 1:12:57 GMT
I don't know how old the earth is. Perhaps only God knows that. However, your thread reminds me of a thread I started on the old board. It was about unexplained artifacts. One of the ungodly came in to tell me that the spark plug in the X-ray photo of a rock was from the 1920's. He said that as if he thought it proved something. Okay. The spark plug is from the 1920's. So how did it become embedded in rock that is supposedly millions of years old?  Unfortunately, it seems the artifact can no longer be found to allow further analysis.
So I guess we'll never know if it was just an old spark plug in some mud they mistook for a geode or an anomaly
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Post by rizdek on Jan 29, 2019 1:21:45 GMT
Yes. As he said, it will increase by 100 years. So what? You know what I mean. Do you think it’s possible that in the next 100 years the estimate could go from 4.5billion to say 5billion or even decrease with the discovery of new additional information? Yes, entirely possible. And my assessment that the earth is ancient...at least hundreds of millions of years old comes not from how they do radiometric dating, but my personal observations as I travel about the country. I've seen deep canyons with dozens of layers of rock extending down a mile. I judge from how long it takes for sediment and sand to fill in lakes or ponds, that those layers must have taken untold hundreds of millions and perhaps billions of years to form. The canyon is not what makes me think it ancient, it's the layers of rock that the canyon formed in. So someone could completely tear apart the whole radiometric dating process tomorrow and show it is unreliable and my take on how ancient the earth is would not change a bit.
Hutton, the first person to seriously think about what the rock layers meant to the age of the earth did not have any kind of dating techniques, yet he surmised through observation and reason that the slow processes he could observe now would take a very long time to create the layers of rock he could see. And furthermore, he could see where normally flat horizontal layers of rock had been turned up perpendicular then worn flat then other newer sedimentary rock formed on top of that older rock. Those processes, he surmised suggest the earth was incredibly ancient, in the ball park of hundreds of millions of years, at least, not just thousands of years old.
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Post by llanwydd on Jan 29, 2019 2:24:02 GMT
There is also a theory suggesting that the universe can be both 6000 years old and 14.5 billion years old. Something to do with the "time dilation" principle, one of many subjects beyond my comprehension. There's also the Schrodinger's God theory, where quantum mechanics allows for the simultaneous existence and non-existence of God. Similar to another statement I have made in this forum. Specifically that because every action has an equal and opposite reaction, the universe must simultaneously exist and not exist. Not that I could prove it. |
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