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Post by thenewnexus on Jan 30, 2019 1:13:22 GMT
I d like to see an Xmen series with all the characters but wolverine can ride solo Depending on the tone it could good or an epic fail. Kat Dennings as female Wolverine? No they should cast Kat as the witchy woman replace liz olsen
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 30, 2019 1:18:24 GMT
A Marvel without Wolverine is like a DC without Batman. He had to be reintroduced in some way that would appease his fans. With Logan being virtually immortal, a long-format series that explores his life makes perfect sense. It also makes it possible to tell X-Men stories without needing to involve him (directly). I'm up for a prestige-format limited series that recounts his earlier years in Canada and his involvment with their intelligence community. Another plus (no pun intended) of a Disney+ Logan series is, if you're really tired of seeing Logan on the big screen, this virtually guarantees that you never see him there again in your lifetime. Now, sit back and wait for Mr. Backlash to do his work regarding casting. Absolutely no one will be good enough for the transitioning XMU diehards unless he's a clone of Jackman. Fans of the comic can tear Jackman's version down for not being completely faithful to the source material. And for what it's worth, that is a fair argument to make... But nonetheless, his version is iconic and endured through almost two decades of comic book movies. The MCU would be wise to let the entire X Men roster rest for at least half a decade. They were done... And done well... Then overdone with the "younger" cast movies. Now, Marvel's urge to captalize on the property under the pretentious pretense of the "we can do it better" mantra is going to really play out these characters. How many X Men movies do we really need? Nothing you've said is untrue but, a lot of it feels like bias and conventional thinking. Where do you get that Marvel Studios has a "we can do it better" attitude? Fox never has, and now never will, factor into how Marvel Entertainment runs its film and TV divisions. When you've got as much of lead as Marvel Studios has, you don't stop to look at the folks who are a distant third or fourth as competitors behind you (especially when you just absorbed them). If Marvel wants to produce a Wolverine series for Disney+, you can be sure it's because it will make sense business wise. Disney's only real competition is Netflix. Disney has re-acquired a business asset that they've been long separated from. Their desire to leverage it either now or later is perfectly reasonable and to be expected. The X-Men do need a rest. The same isn't necessarily true of Wolverine because of his diehard fanbase. People never get tired of the character just like people never get tired of Batman or Spider-Man. It is what it is. Ripping the band-aid off of casting a new Wolverine now makes more sense than letting Jackman's legend continue to grow over a period of years to the point where it creates a schism amongst fans (similar to the Burton/Nolan factionalization of Batman). A streaming show about Wolverine is a Disney+ subscriber draw. Period. People will sign up to see a show featuring the hairball. That's like gravity - it's an immutable fact of existence. People will watch it if it's good, bad excellent or somewhere in between. In their Deathrace against Netflix, Disney has to use every weapon they have almost immediately. Nothing less than their total extinction is at stake. The Hollywood system with its bizarre and ineffectual accounting, talent fetishism and Kafka-esque bureaucracy is dying. I can back the idea of a prestige show about James Howlett that doesn't necessarily focus all of its time on him as Wolverine. His history stretches all the way back to the late 1880s. He's been a spy, an assassin, a drifter, a soldier, a test subject and a superhero. Can you cover all of that meaningfully in a single movie? How about a trilogy of movies? The answer is no if you're being faithful to the source material. There's no reason the show couldn't move through time similar to the way True Detective does without ever needing to address his time as a superhero.
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Post by kleinreturns on Jan 30, 2019 1:23:02 GMT
I d like to see an Xmen series with all the characters but wolverine can ride solo Depending on the tone it could good or an epic fail. Kat Dennings as female Wolverine? LOL!!!! Well she IS 5'3"....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 2:17:58 GMT
Fans of the comic can tear Jackman's version down for not being completely faithful to the source material. And for what it's worth, that is a fair argument to make... But nonetheless, his version is iconic and endured through almost two decades of comic book movies. The MCU would be wise to let the entire X Men roster rest for at least half a decade. They were done... And done well... Then overdone with the "younger" cast movies. Now, Marvel's urge to captalize on the property under the pretentious pretense of the "we can do it better" mantra is going to really play out these characters. How many X Men movies do we really need? Nothing you've said is untrue but, a lot of it feels like bias and conventional thinking. Where do you get that Marvel Studios has a "we can do it better" attitude? Fox never has, and now never will, factor into how Marvel Entertainment runs its film and TV divisions. When you've got as much of lead as Marvel Studios has, you don't stop to look at the folks who are a distant third or fourth as competitors behind you (especially when you just absorbed them). If Marvel wants to produce a Wolverine series for Disney+, you can be sure it's because it will make sense business wise. Disney's only real competition is Netflix. Disney has re-acquired a business asset that they've been long separated from. Their desire to leverage it either now or later is perfectly reasonable and to be expected. The X-Men do need a rest. The same isn't necessarily true of Wolverine because of his diehard fanbase. People never get tired of the character just like people never get tired of Batman or Spider-Man. It is what it is. Ripping the band-aid off of casting a new Wolverine now makes more sense than letting Jackman's legend continue to grow over a period of years to the point where it creates a schism amongst fans (similar to the Burton/Nolan factionalization of Batman). A streaming show about Wolverine is a Disney+ subscriber draw. Period. People will sign up to see a show featuring the hairball. That's like gravity - it's an immutable fact of existence. People will watch it if it's good, bad excellent or somewhere in between. In their Deathrace against Netflix, Disney has to use every weapon they have almost immediately. Nothing less than their total extinction is at stake. The Hollywood system with its bizarre and ineffectual accounting, talent fetishism and Kafka-esque bureaucracy is dying. I can back the idea of a prestige show about James Howlett that doesn't necessarily focus all of its time on him as Wolverine. His history stretches all the way back to the late 1880s. He's been a spy, an assassin, a drifter, a soldier, a test subject and a superhero. Can you cover all of that meaningfully in a single movie? How about a trilogy of movies? The answer is no if you're being faithful to the source material. There's no reason the show couldn't move through time Similar to the way True Detective does without ever needing to address his time as a superhero. Excellent points. And I can't begrudge Disney for capitalizing on these properties... But when the top comic book movies of last year included Ant Man and Aquaman, I just hate to see that studios are still running Spiderman, Batman and X Men into the ground. I guess in the end I just don't want the MCU to become centered around properties we have see so much of already. Their Iron Man and Captain America are now as iconic as any comic character ever adapted, and that's partially because they were the first incarnations of the characters seen on screen. Same with Wonder Woman. Holland will never reach that status and neither will Batfleck or Cavil. I think there's a lesson there. I do, however, fully support MCU movies for F4 and Daredevil, as well as the new DC Green Lantern, because they are characters that have yet to receive popular film adaptations.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 30, 2019 2:34:00 GMT
They changed Wolverine into a hero-romantic lead type of character which worked--and without that, the films would have suffered since it gave the series a traditional hero figure. They can do something different with it on tv, but again we have one of the negatives of the corporate approach--wall to wall exposure makes the thing less exciting. They "used up their shuttle fuel to signal the Enterprise" by doing so many movies with A budgets, so now, anything they do will not be able to wow so much since they either repeat what comes before or will focus on talking heads more than anything else.
Like a bored Bruce Wayne liked to say in the first Batman appearance, "ho-hum."
I got in two specific genre references in one post, my work here is done.
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Post by darkpast on Jan 30, 2019 3:55:38 GMT
first look
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Post by summers8 on Jan 30, 2019 8:19:24 GMT
wolverine tv show? is the character too violent for their disneu kids movies?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 30, 2019 14:30:32 GMT
wolverine tv show? is the character too violent for their disneu kids movies? Subscribe to Disney+ and find out. Hee hee hee...
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Post by kleinreturns on Jan 30, 2019 14:37:45 GMT
wolverine tv show? is the character too violent for their disneu kids movies? Like Wolverine scared sh!tless over a cat and having that cat cutely lick his claws was so "violent".....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 14:38:06 GMT
Sounds great. There is no way he won't still be in the movies though for everyone saying it.
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Post by kleinreturns on Jan 30, 2019 14:39:52 GMT
Sounds great. There is no way he won't still be in the movies though for everyone saying it. ^^^This. TBH i wish they would have some of the MCU characters both on TV and in the movies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 14:42:08 GMT
Sounds great. There is no way he won't still be in the movies though for everyone saying it. ^^^This. TBH i wish they would have some of the MCU characters both on TV and in the movies. I totally agree. I really want to see Spider-Man and Daredevil team up.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 30, 2019 14:42:27 GMT
Sounds great. There is no way he won't still be in the movies though for everyone saying it. I think it will delay his entry into the movies and, furthermore, I think a big part of the reason they’re considering a television show first is to forestall a cinematic outing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 14:44:43 GMT
Sounds great. There is no way he won't still be in the movies though for everyone saying it. I think it will delay his entry into the movies and, furthermore, I think a big part of the reason they’re considering a television show first is to forestall a cinematic outing. . I see what you mean. What I think they might do is cover his backstory on the show.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 30, 2019 14:49:23 GMT
I think it will delay his entry into the movies and, furthermore, I think a big part of the reason they’re considering a television show first is to forestall a cinematic outing. . I see what you mean. What I think they might do is cover his backstory on the show. That’s exactly what they’re going to do. I doubt they will randomly insert him into modern-day MCU super-heroics.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 30, 2019 14:51:30 GMT
Doesnt matter. Nothing disney do will be able to top Jackmans Wolverine. Let them try All they have to do is make him kinda accurate to the comics and they've topped him.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jan 30, 2019 17:17:16 GMT
Doesnt matter. Nothing disney do will be able to top Jackmans Wolverine. Let them try Honestly that’s probably why they’re considering a TV show. Jackman’s Wolverine is iconic. People are probably more likely to accept a new TV version of him over a huge blockbuster with either a huge name that nobody will think is right for the part, or a no name that nobody will think is good enough for the part. Jackman owns the role the same way RDJ owns Iron Man. It’s going to be next to impossible to introduce a brand new and accepted version of the character. They will be able to test the X-Men MCU waters more openly, and less expensively, on their streaming service.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 30, 2019 17:25:09 GMT
Doesnt matter. Nothing disney do will be able to top Jackmans Wolverine. Let them try Meh, as much as I enjoyed Jackman's Wolverine let's be honest, he was far from the perfect Wolverine. There are many things the new version could do better on. Heck, if they make the series like they did Daredevil and Punisher then it would already be a big improvement.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 30, 2019 17:55:10 GMT
Doesnt matter. Nothing disney do will be able to top Jackmans Wolverine. Let them try Meh, as much as I enjoyed Jackman's Wolverine let's be honest, he was far from the perfect Wolverine. There are many things the new version could do better on. Heck, if they make the series like they did Daredevil and Punisher then it would already be a big improvement. Dont think they will go down Punisher route. Far from perfect when looking through MCU tinted glasses.
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Post by charzhino on Jan 30, 2019 17:56:34 GMT
Doesnt matter. Nothing disney do will be able to top Jackmans Wolverine. Let them try All they have to do is make him kinda accurate to the comics and they've topped him. Like how they made Stark, Parker, Quill, Ego, Hank Pymm, Ultron, Thor etc etc etc etc etc?
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