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Post by rogerthat on Jan 29, 2019 23:16:22 GMT
Interesting article in The Hollywood Reporter regarding Universal revisiting its Monsters Universe (again) but this time with the focus on Horror. They are teaming up with Blumhouse Productions.
The part of the story that gives me hope:
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 30, 2019 0:13:28 GMT
It's so strange that that wasn't the approach they took in the first place.
I think Dracula Untold sort of was that attempt but it just wasn't very good and then they recalibrated in entirely the wrong way. The Mummy was such a misguided misfire and set up a future that nobody seemed to want to see.
Honestly, even though it definitely was not perfect, I wish they would have built off of The Wolfman.
The best version of this, I think, might have been what Penny Dreadful was trying to do before it got the axe. But I could imagine that as having been done as a series of films that might have really been something.
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Post by rogerthat on Jan 30, 2019 1:18:31 GMT
As the article mentions, I think Universal got caught up in the "Universe" idea akin to Marvel and DC comics. Unfortunately they lost track of what made (at least the Marvel ) them successful: Building individual movies and characters up as stand alones first.
I want to get excited about the indivividual Universal monsters again. I think their stories can still be relevant and scary today if done right.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 30, 2019 13:52:57 GMT
Agree on all points, but it's still kind of strange that they didn't see that that was the wrong approach. It's certainly possible that they might have taken a step toward course correcting had the continued with The Bride of Frankenstein, but since they've essentially abandoned those plans entirely, that's probably not the case.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 30, 2019 17:37:15 GMT
The best version of this, I think, might have been what Penny Dreadful was trying to do before it got the axe. But I could imagine that as having been done as a series of films that might have really been something.  . Penny Dreadful was awesome! That is exactly what they should have done in the first place. |
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 30, 2019 19:09:02 GMT
The best version of this, I think, might have been what Penny Dreadful was trying to do before it got the axe. But I could imagine that as having been done as a series of films that might have really been something. . Penny Dreadful was awesome! That is exactly what they should have done in the first place. It was pretty much the perfect template for what Unjversal should have done. The problem that show had was really just that it got cut short so that last season left a lot of unresolved story threads and rushed through stuff that clearly was meant for longer, multiple season arcs. If that story had been given the resources that The Mummy got, it could really have been amazing. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 30, 2019 19:15:54 GMT
The Universal films often had weak male characters (i.e. David Manners) so they can carry on that tradition now with aplomb.
Seeing Blumhouse involved I suspect a stronger African/women empowerment message behind or in front of the camera.
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Post by lightningcat on Jan 30, 2019 21:31:42 GMT
my only question is why start with Invisible Man? there is nothing scary about him
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Post by rogerthat on Jan 30, 2019 22:56:52 GMT
my only question is why start with Invisible Man? there is nothing scary about him My guess is that the character is less played out compared to Dracula and the Wolfman |
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jan 30, 2019 23:41:19 GMT
The Universal films often had weak male characters (i.e. David Manners) so they can carry on that tradition now with aplomb. Seeing Blumhouse involved I suspect a stronger African/women empowerment message behind or in front of the camera. I mean, sure. But how is that necessarily a bad thing? 🤔 |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 31, 2019 0:53:46 GMT
I mean, sure. But how is that necessarily a bad thing? 🤔 If it's obvious then it's bad. People said such things about Halloween whatever.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jan 31, 2019 0:57:05 GMT
I mean, sure. But how is that necessarily a bad thing? 🤔 If it's obvious then it's bad. People said such things about Halloween whatever.
I don't recall much of an African American presence in the latest Halloween, but either way, a good movie is a good movie regardless of who writes, directs or produces it. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 31, 2019 1:07:33 GMT
I don't recall much of an African American presence in the latest Halloween, but either way, a good movie is a good movie regardless of who writes, directs or produces it. Enough people criticized it, just as a lot of people said Get Out was hyped up virtue signaling.
Both Blumhouse. Another Blumhouse film also had a Feminist message so I think we can be sure for narrow thematic ranges to come.
They should put H.A.M. on it (Hillary Approved Movie).
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jan 31, 2019 1:31:58 GMT
I don't recall much of an African American presence in the latest Halloween, but either way, a good movie is a good movie regardless of who writes, directs or produces it. Enough people criticized it, just as a lot of people said Get Out was hyped up virtue signaling.
Both Blumhouse. Another Blumhouse film also had a Feminist message so I think we can be sure for narrow thematic ranges to come.
They should put H.A.M. on it (Hillary Approved Movie).
Can you please elaborate on the African American influence or pro-Hillary message of Halloween 2018? |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 31, 2019 1:37:01 GMT
Can you please elaborate on the African American influence or pro-Hillary message of Halloween 2018? I don't know about the African message in Halloween but I know they went in a feminist direction from the reviews I saw (by non political types). Anything with an insincere SJW veneer is "Hillary approved" as in its the kind of BS message a politician would say. Many movies today sound like they consulted with the DNC. |
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jan 31, 2019 2:46:07 GMT
Can you please elaborate on the African American influence or pro-Hillary message of Halloween 2018? I don't know about the African message in Halloween but I know they went in a feminist direction from the reviews I saw (by non political types). Anything with an insincere SJW veneer is "Hillary approved" as in its the kind of BS message a politician would say. Many movies today sound like they consulted with the DNC. ...you are aware that Hillary lost the election way back in 2016, right? Also, Hollywood has always had a liberal slant. This is nothing new. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 31, 2019 3:00:03 GMT
...you are aware that Hillary lost the election way back in 2016, right? Thanks for letting me know Mr 60 Minutes. lol Actually even the so-called "consurvative familee valyooos" FOX was very pro-Hillary in tv and movies. When Bruce Willis refers to her as the next president in DIE HARD 3 he isn't overtly critical. It was probably intended to get people used to the idea (like the Simpsons movie with the non-critical Hillary as president skit). Sliders also showed her as president in a non critical way. Anyway, Hollywood's thematic limitations means less impressive artistic works, and this is what we can expect here with Blumhouse and Universal. Doing a new Dracula--ok, but doing it to preach fake social concern messages--oh God help us.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jan 31, 2019 3:04:57 GMT
...you are aware that Hillary lost the election way back in 2016, right? Thanks for letting me know Mr 60 Minutes. lol Actually even the so-called "consurvative familee valyooos" FOX was very pro-Hillary in tv and movies. When Bruce Willis refers to her as the next president in DIE HARD 3 he isn't overtly critical. It was probably intended to get people used to the idea (like the Simpsons movie with the non-critical Hillary as president skit). Sliders also showed her as president in a non critical way. Anyway, Hollywood's thematic limitations means less impressive artistic works, and this is what we can expect here with Blumhouse and Universal. Doing a new Dracula--ok, but doing it to preach fake social concern messages--oh God help us.
Hmmm. Okay. I suggest you watch the movies before you actually get up in arms about any agenda. Blumhouse has been responsible for some of the best mainstream horror films in the last five years. I didn't pick up on any hidden Hillary messages in Happy Death Day, Glass, etc. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Jan 31, 2019 3:07:12 GMT
I didn't pick up on any hidden Hillary messages in Happy Death Day, Glass, etc. I did.
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