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Post by hi224 on Apr 2, 2017 5:23:14 GMT
Because i actually do as well.
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Post by Utpe on Apr 2, 2017 5:53:02 GMT
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Post by MCDemuth on Apr 2, 2017 9:39:15 GMT
I believe it is possible that energies from an event can be recorded at a location and played back, and some people can see these "movies"... (It is quite starting to turn a corner in your home and see a stranger standing there.)
I believe that there are strange forces that can cause sounds, strange lights, and create magnetic fields that can move objects... (I don't think anyone would like to see knives flying around the room.)
However, I don't know if some ghosts are spirits of people who passed on...
But, I wish the skeptics would show some compassion and understanding.
Most people who think they experience ghosts, are traumatized by these encounters, and it can it can scar them for life.
The last thing they need is to have people insulting them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2017 19:23:56 GMT
I do ~ I haven't experienced it but I believe others have
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Post by Sandman on Apr 2, 2017 21:51:26 GMT
This from a straight forward guy and I believe every word of it. A guy I worked with married a girl that worked at the same place. They had not been married a week when he wakes his wife up and says do you see someone or something standing in the door way. She said yes. That is my dead grandmother. She comes around about once or twice a month to check on me. This went on for about 3 years then sadly she passed away. He never saw her grandmother again.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 3, 2017 2:16:49 GMT
Never experienced an encounter before.
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Post by novastar6 on Apr 3, 2017 2:36:40 GMT
Always have.
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Post by wanton87 on Apr 3, 2017 14:41:46 GMT
I'm a VIP member of the Anything Ghost podcasts, and enjoy listening to them. Whether I actually believe ghosts exist or not is a tough one to answer. I always try to keep an open mind to such things, but I do have my doubts.
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Post by cineastewest on Apr 3, 2017 16:15:33 GMT
This from a straight forward guy and I believe every word of it. A guy I worked with married a girl that worked at the same place. They had not been married a week when he wakes his wife up and says do you see someone or something standing in the door way. She said yes. That is my dead grandmother. She comes around about once or twice a month to check on me. This went on for about 3 years then sadly she passed away. He never saw her grandmother again. Thanks, granny. I would have been filing divorce papers that week. All I need is to be looking over my shoulder for a arthritic ghost every time I hump my new wife.
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Post by Jillian on Apr 3, 2017 16:37:04 GMT
Nope. But I do love Supernatural.
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Post by cryso on Apr 3, 2017 19:47:49 GMT
Because i actually do as well. My friend say he saw ghosts by his house, he saw dark men moving in his back alley, he say they were there at night and he would feel them
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Post by clusium on Apr 3, 2017 19:50:24 GMT
Because i actually do as well. You should have posted this on the Paranormal Message forum.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 20:45:27 GMT
No.
I think supernatural phenomena can be attributed to misunderstood workings of the mind and confirmation bias. For example, a lot of people mistake deja vu for some sort of precognition, when it can be more accurately attributed to a faulty encoding of a memory that makes a current experience feel like it is an older memory than it is. Or, say, sleep paralysis. It is often mistaken for a supernatural event when it's more likely a "glitch" in the sleeping process that causes your body to go to "sleep" before your mind does.
People also like to feel special so that's where confirmation bias comes in; they don't truly consider that their experiences were something caused by a malfunction of the brain, but rather, that they were privy to something very rare that most people aren't a party to. They want to believe they experienced something unique so they convince themselves they have and discount information to the contrary.
I do find ghost lore and demonology very interesting, though. The Lesser Key of Solomon is fascinating as all hell.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 3, 2017 20:57:48 GMT
No. I think supernatural phenomena can be attributed to misunderstood workings of the mind and confirmation bias. For example, a lot of people mistake deja vu for some sort of precognition, when it can be more accurately attributed to a faulty encoding of a memory that makes a current experience feel like it is an older memory than it is. Or, say, sleep paralysis. It is often mistaken for a supernatural event when it's more likely a "glitch" in the sleeping process that causes your body to go to "sleep" before your mind does. People also like to feel special so that's where confirmation bias comes in; they don't truly consider that their experiences were something caused by a malfunction of the brain, but rather, that they were privy to something very rare that most people aren't a party to. They want to believe they experienced something unique so they convince themselves they have and discount information to the contrary. I do find ghost lore and demonology very interesting, though. The Lesser Key of Solomon is fascinating as all hell. This is a large-scale debate that should probably go on the "Paranormal" thread, as Clusium noted, and even then cannot be covered in all its details and penumbrae on a movie board. With that said, Bartlesby, while I find this kind of skeptical answer workable in most cases, there are a number of cases in which I fully do not believe that it applies. Does that mean I am ready to throw caution to the wind and say "yup! Ghosts!"? No. But I do not believe that skepticism holds all the answers either. Reminds me of what Mme. de Staël told Sir Henry Holland when he asked if she believed in ghosts, which I am fond of quoting: "No, I don't believe in ghosts, but--oh!--I am afraid of them."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 21:16:21 GMT
No. I think supernatural phenomena can be attributed to misunderstood workings of the mind and confirmation bias. For example, a lot of people mistake deja vu for some sort of precognition, when it can be more accurately attributed to a faulty encoding of a memory that makes a current experience feel like it is an older memory than it is. Or, say, sleep paralysis. It is often mistaken for a supernatural event when it's more likely a "glitch" in the sleeping process that causes your body to go to "sleep" before your mind does. People also like to feel special so that's where confirmation bias comes in; they don't truly consider that their experiences were something caused by a malfunction of the brain, but rather, that they were privy to something very rare that most people aren't a party to. They want to believe they experienced something unique so they convince themselves they have and discount information to the contrary. I do find ghost lore and demonology very interesting, though. The Lesser Key of Solomon is fascinating as all hell. This is a large-scale debate that should probably go on the "Paranormal" thread, as Clusium noted, and even then cannot be covered in all its details and penumbrae on a movie board. With that said, Bartlesby, while I find this kind of skeptical answer workable in most cases, there are a number of cases in which I fully do not believe that it applies. Does that mean I am ready to throw caution to the wind and say "yup! Ghosts!"? No. But I do not believe that skepticism holds all the answers either. Reminds me of what Germaine de Staël told Sir Henry Holland when he asked if she believed in ghosts, which I am fond of quoting: "No, I don't believe in ghosts, but--oh!--I am afraid of them." That's certainly fine. I am open-minded but I am more inclined to approach all instances as something natural and dealing with faulty perception rather than legitimate supernatural experiences. I know firsthand that the mind can be a powerful persuader and a bit of a trickster at times. I have one, after all. I'm simply more inclined to suspect a trick of the mind than a paranormal event. It's fine if you believe in ghosts. To convince me, however, you would need some hard evidence to back it up.
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Post by CoyoteGraves on Apr 3, 2017 21:18:05 GMT
I do...in fact I think there may be at least one living in my house. He or she is real subtle though, and in no way violent, but I know that he or she is there.
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Post by Nalkarj on Apr 3, 2017 21:46:36 GMT
This is a large-scale debate that should probably go on the "Paranormal" thread, as Clusium noted, and even then cannot be covered in all its details and penumbrae on a movie board. With that said, Bartlesby, while I find this kind of skeptical answer workable in most cases, there are a number of cases in which I fully do not believe that it applies. Does that mean I am ready to throw caution to the wind and say "yup! Ghosts!"? No. But I do not believe that skepticism holds all the answers either. Reminds me of what Germaine de Staël told Sir Henry Holland when he asked if she believed in ghosts, which I am fond of quoting: "No, I don't believe in ghosts, but--oh!--I am afraid of them." That's certainly fine. I am open-minded but I am more inclined to approach all instances as something natural and dealing with faulty perception rather than legitimate supernatural experiences. I know firsthand that the mind can be a powerful persuader and a bit of a trickster at times. I have one, after all. I'm simply more inclined to suspect a trick of the mind than a paranormal event. It's fine if you believe in ghosts. To convince me, however, you would need some hard evidence to back it up. Thanks for your response, bartlesby! I suppose I approach things a little differently. I do not presume a priori materialism in all cases. By the way, it will not convince you, bartlesby, I know ahead of time, but you may be interested in reading my stories on the "scariest thing that ever happened to you" thread. If you can propose a skeptical answer to my Venice story, I would actually be much obliged. Links if you're interested: imdb2.freeforums.net/post/17489/thread (Venice story) and imdb2.freeforums.net/post/293753/thread
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Post by Terrapin Station on Apr 3, 2017 21:48:23 GMT
But alas, I do not.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Apr 3, 2017 21:50:03 GMT
I believe it is possible that energies from an event can be recorded at a location and played back, and some people can see these "movies"... I don't believe that the idea of energy existing independently of anything else even makes any sense, unfortunately. In my view, energy only makes sense as the relative motion of matter. In other words, I'm skeptical of even some really well-accepted concepts/beliefs in the field of physics.
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Post by NewtJorden on Apr 4, 2017 1:36:26 GMT
The appartment i live in is said to be haunted, but i have not see anything yet. Until then, i remain skeptical about ghost.
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