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Post by petrolino on Feb 3, 2019 3:52:54 GMT
The Deer Hunter
John Cazale, Chuck Aspegren, Robert De Niro, John Savage & Christopher Walken
Steel Workers in Pennsylvania
'Katyusha'
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Post by hi224 on Feb 3, 2019 4:05:12 GMT
cool?.
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Post by petrolino on Feb 3, 2019 14:02:30 GMT
'In 1943, the Kingdom of Italy, until then one of the Axis powers, joined the Allies. During the next two years, Italian partisans fought against German forces in Italy and Italian Fascists. Felice Cascione [it] wrote Italian lyrics for "Katyusha". His adaptation, Fischia il vento (The Wind Blows), became one of the most famous partisan anthems, along with Bella ciao and La Brigata Garibaldi.
During the last battles on the Eastern Front, the Blue Division used the melody of "Katyusha" for an adaptation called Primavera (Spring), an anti-communist chant extolling the value of Spanish fighters.
During the Greek Civil War (1946–1949), Greek partisans who fought against the German invasion in 1941 wrote their version of "Katyusha" named Ο ύμνος του ΕΑΜ (The Hymn of EAM). This adaptation was recorded much later by Thanos Mikroutsikos and sung by Maria Dimitriadi.
The song was translated into Hebrew and performed by 1945, and has been popular ever since in Israel.
Katyusha is also a popular song sung in the People's Republic of China due to influence from the Soviet Union in the second half of the 20th century and is still widely popular. The popularity of these songs even reached a point in China that at the time young people would deem it a great shame if they couldn't sing them.'
- Wikipedia
Michael Cimino filmed the wedding sequence in 'The Deer Hunter' at St. Theodosius Russian Orthodox Cathedral in Cleveland, Ohio
'The first showing of the Cleveland's Russians exhibit was held at the Cleveland Public Library, and ran from February 1 to March 3, 1980. The press release for the event states that this project represented “the first attempt to study the traditional culture of a Russian ethnic community in the United States.” The first section of the exhibit explored the history and migration of Russians of various religious affiliations: Orthodox, Jewish, and Baptist. The send section focuses on art, foodways, music, dance, craft, iconography, and other traditions of the Orthodox Russian group.
In addition to the materials on the exhibit, this collection contains a wealth of photographs, including documentation of gravestone designs, places of worship, egg decorating, and making borscht.'
- Excerpt from 'Cleveland Russians: Expressions of Ethnicity', Ohio State University (Center for Folklore Studies)
'Fischia il Vento' - Milva
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Post by petrolino on Feb 3, 2019 14:13:17 GMT
Not sure. I like the song though and feel it has an interesting history. It's been interpreted in different languages since its inception. |
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Post by mortsahlfan on Feb 4, 2019 0:50:54 GMT
Good movie, but the wedding scene had way too much superfluous stuff.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on Feb 4, 2019 15:17:50 GMT
Just re-watched this last night, I needed a three-hour movie to fill the time during the NFL Suckfest. It truly is an excellent film, and shows how effective an actor DeNiro can be in an understated, quiet role instead of the somewhat bombastic ones people normally think of when he's brought up. I agree with onethreetwo 's assessment of Nick at the end; if he still has the presence of mind to send money to Steven (and how did he know where he was, or that he was even alive?) then why wouldn't he have recognized Michael right away and said something like "Damn buddy, what took you so long? Let's get the hell outta this shithole!" It also struck me every time John Cazale was on screen how wonderful an actor he was, and what a tragedy that he was taken so early.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 4, 2019 18:18:29 GMT
Good movie, but the wedding scene had way too much superfluous stuff. Wait when you see Heaven's Gate. |
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Post by novastar6 on Apr 12, 2021 15:28:19 GMT
Good movie, but the wedding scene had way too much superfluous stuff.
The wedding scene felt VERY real, you looked like you were watching an actual orthodox wedding. Most of the movie felt like, as did several 70s movies, like somebody just turned on a camera and captured real people in everyday life. And if you compare it to modern movies, you can see why, everybody is not beautiful, the church is full of fat old women with bad hairstyles and ugly glasses, real people, people talking over one another, people flubbing what they're saying and laughing at it, everyday background noises in the street scenes, people horsing around, singing, dancing, cussing at each other and it's very fluid and natural, not like today where people think screaming 'fuck' every 10 seconds is somehow phenomenal acting or adds humor, it does not.
So I get for the time people still weren't talking about Vietnam because it was new and raw, etc., but I don't get what the backlash for it was about. People thought the Vietnamese couldn't be cruel and barbaric? Really? Given the footage they were seeing of what was going on, where would they get that idea?
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Apr 12, 2021 15:42:23 GMT
Such a disappointment.
I was expecting a gritty, psychological war movie along the lines of Apocalypse Now but what I got was a crappy, overlong, self-indulgent bore. That wedding scene felt like it would never end. It's plodding pace doesn't really help. This could have used tighter editing. There a whole lot of scenes where nothing happens.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 12, 2021 19:22:00 GMT
6/10 Like it but thought it was way too slow.
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Post by mortsahlfan on Apr 12, 2021 21:23:26 GMT
Good movie, but the wedding scene had way too much superfluous stuff.
The wedding scene felt VERY real, you looked like you were watching an actual orthodox wedding. Most of the movie felt like, as did several 70s movies, like somebody just turned on a camera and captured real people in everyday life. And if you compare it to modern movies, you can see why, everybody is not beautiful, the church is full of fat old women with bad hairstyles and ugly glasses, real people, people talking over one another, people flubbing what they're saying and laughing at it, everyday background noises in the street scenes, people horsing around, singing, dancing, cussing at each other and it's very fluid and natural, not like today where people think screaming 'fuck' every 10 seconds is somehow phenomenal acting or adds humor, it does not.
So I get for the time people still weren't talking about Vietnam because it was new and raw, etc., but I don't get what the backlash for it was about. People thought the Vietnamese couldn't be cruel and barbaric? Really? Given the footage they were seeing of what was going on, where would they get that idea?
I remember reading about some backlash, saying there wasn't any proof of this. Personally, I favor artistic license.. Unless you're doing a bio-pic.
I agree with what you're saying - I think 99% of movies in the last 40 years are complete trash.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 12, 2021 22:47:01 GMT
Good movie, but the wedding scene had way too much superfluous stuff. Wedding scene might be most possibly integral scene. |
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Post by hi224 on Apr 12, 2021 22:49:20 GMT
Such a disappointment. I was expecting a gritty, psychological war movie along the lines of Apocalypse Now but what I got was a crappy, overlong, self-indulgent bore. That wedding scene felt like it would never end. It's plodding pace doesn't really help. This could have used tighter editing. There a whole lot of scenes where nothing happens. Sure Jan. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 12, 2021 22:54:53 GMT
I hated the hunting scenes. To set the movie in western Pennsylvania then have the hunting scenes in mountains that were so obviously NOT western PA was awful, in my opinion. As bad as pine forest Vietnamese "jungles" in The Green Berets.
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