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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 6, 2019 15:20:01 GMT
College basketball.
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Post by sdm3 on Feb 6, 2019 15:22:46 GMT
My attention pretty much remains with the NFL through the draft and those tantalizing off-season stories about how player x is in “the best shape of his life”. But I’ll pay more attention to hockey and basketball until summer.
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 6, 2019 15:45:35 GMT
NFL offseason - - free agency, trades, draft . . .
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Post by NewtJorden on Feb 6, 2019 16:38:49 GMT
NHL
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 6, 2019 17:32:38 GMT
Easily the NBA. College hoops and hockey blow.
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Post by sdm3 on Feb 6, 2019 17:35:22 GMT
Easily the NBA. College hoops and hockey blow. You got half of that right. College hoops, actually college sports, blow. I’m always tempted to make a trolling thread about the subject but never quite get around to it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 6, 2019 17:40:51 GMT
Easily the NBA. College hoops and hockey blow. You got half of that right. College hoops, actually college sports, blow. I’m always tempted to make a trolling thread about the subject but never quite get around to it. Talentwise college sports can suck. But the crowd is always into it and the players are motivated, unlike the majority of professional basketball players who give full effort once every four games. I'm a basketball guy so my focus shifts to the NBA and college hoops once the NFL season is over. But I've become less enamored with the NBA in recent years, it's not often if ever that I'll watch an NBA game that doesn't involve the Celtics.
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 6, 2019 17:45:18 GMT
You got half of that right. College hoops, actually college sports, blow. I’m always tempted to make a trolling thread about the subject but never quite get around to it. Talentwise college sports can suck. But the crowd is always into it and the players are motivated, unlike the majority of professional basketball players who give full effort once every four games. I'm a basketball guy so my focus shifts to the NBA and college hoops once the NFL season is over. But I've become less enamored with the NBA in recent years, it's not often if ever that I'll watch an NBA game that doesn't involve the Celtics. College basketball is just inferior in every way on the court. Sure, the atmosphere might be great and the players play hard, blah blah blah, but they still stink. The offensive sets are juvenile and no one can play defense.
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Post by Geddy on Feb 6, 2019 18:01:24 GMT
The Flyers are doing well at the moment true. My Leafs may be interested in Simmonds, what say? I say out with the old and in with the new. Like Giroux who has even seemed to turn his career around after they took him from the Center spot.
Couple of top defenseman - even if they are in the minors right now and a top pick - lets talk turkey.
He's been a Flyer for going on 8 years now and was part of the Mike Richards trade (former captain) - Richards went on to win a couple of Cups if memory serves with the Kings
Simmonds has brought them nowhere along with Giroux.
I'll admit I was wrong and was against the Hextall and Hakstol outings - but the pundits are raving about their young defensemen and now Hart.
I look at Hockey like MLB - can never have enough defensemen like in MLB can never have enough pitching.
The Leafs do have an abundance of defenceman at the moment to offer so it is a possibility since Simmonds is from here and the Leafs do need some toughness.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 6, 2019 18:05:33 GMT
Talentwise college sports can suck. But the crowd is always into it and the players are motivated, unlike the majority of professional basketball players who give full effort once every four games. I'm a basketball guy so my focus shifts to the NBA and college hoops once the NFL season is over. But I've become less enamored with the NBA in recent years, it's not often if ever that I'll watch an NBA game that doesn't involve the Celtics. College basketball is just inferior in every way on the court. Sure, the atmosphere might be great and the players play hard, blah blah blah, but they still stink. The offensive sets are juvenile and no one can play defense. Nobody plays defense in the pros anymore. They even changed the rules to make sure of that. Clearly the NBA is the superior basketball product night in and night out, no argument here. But for entertainment value I enjoy college hoops to guys mailing it in until the playoffs start. A regular season NBA game literally means nothing. Every college game between top ranked teams has potential ramifications on tournament seeding, and the best players are giving 100% because they want to show scouts what they can do at the next level.
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 6, 2019 18:09:17 GMT
College basketball is just inferior in every way on the court. Sure, the atmosphere might be great and the players play hard, blah blah blah, but they still stink. The offensive sets are juvenile and no one can play defense. Nobody plays defense in the pros anymore. They even changed the rules to make sure of that. Clearly the NBA is the superior basketball product night in and night out, no argument here. But for entertainment value I enjoy college hoops to guys mailing it in until the playoffs start. A regular season NBA game literally means nothing. Every college game between top ranked teams has potential ramifications on tournament seeding, and the best players are giving 100% because they want to show scouts what they can do at the next level. Agree to disagree here. The college hoops season means nothing either. Every night there are games on that do not matter in the slightest. I know the NBA has these too, but at least I am watching superior basketball. Watch a college game closely. How many players are moving without the ball? How many players are throwing meaningful passes and actually moving the ball around in an intelligent way? How many teams have to play zone on a regular basis because no one can play man to man defense? I have played ball my entire life and I like to watch the best of the best. I always here that these teams mail it in all year and I disagree. EVERY night in the NBA there is an exciting game where teams play hard. I see better defense in a Boston or Indiana regular season game than I would in a national championship. The players, coaches, style of play, etc. are just all superior in the pros.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 6, 2019 18:15:28 GMT
College basketball is just inferior in every way on the court. Sure, the atmosphere might be great and the players play hard, blah blah blah, but they still stink. The offensive sets are juvenile and no one can play defense. Nobody plays defense in the pros anymore. They even changed the rules to make sure of that. Clearly the NBA is the superior basketball product night in and night out, no argument here. But for entertainment value I enjoy college hoops to guys mailing it in until the playoffs start. A regular season NBA game literally means nothing. Every college game between top ranked teams has potential ramifications on tournament seeding, and the best players are giving 100% because they want to show scouts what they can do at the next level. That's true. Another plus for CBB, no one knows who's going to win the championship. Gee, who's going to win the NBA Championship? I wonder. About as much suspense as me running the 40 yard against Usain Bolt.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 6, 2019 18:39:30 GMT
Nobody plays defense in the pros anymore. They even changed the rules to make sure of that. Clearly the NBA is the superior basketball product night in and night out, no argument here. But for entertainment value I enjoy college hoops to guys mailing it in until the playoffs start. A regular season NBA game literally means nothing. Every college game between top ranked teams has potential ramifications on tournament seeding, and the best players are giving 100% because they want to show scouts what they can do at the next level. Agree to disagree here. The college hoops season means nothing either. Every night there are games on that do not matter in the slightest. I know the NBA has these too, but at least I am watching superior basketball. Watch a college game closely. How many players are moving without the ball? How many players are throwing meaningful passes and actually moving the ball around in an intelligent way? How many teams have to play zone on a regular basis because no one can play man to man defense? I have played ball my entire life and I like to watch the best of the best. I always here that these teams mail it in all year and I disagree. EVERY night in the NBA there is an exciting game where teams play hard. I see better defense in a Boston or Indiana regular season game than I would in a national championship. The players, coaches, style of play, etc. are just all superior in the pros. I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, I just have more fun watching college hoops. But I disagree about the coaching. Most of the pro coaches are absolutely terrible. There are like 5 coaches in the NBA who are worth a shit, and that might be generous on my part.
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 6, 2019 19:08:23 GMT
Talentwise college sports can suck. But the crowd is always into it and the players are motivated, unlike the majority of professional basketball players who give full effort once every four games. I'm a basketball guy so my focus shifts to the NBA and college hoops once the NFL season is over. But I've become less enamored with the NBA in recent years, it's not often if ever that I'll watch an NBA game that doesn't involve the Celtics. College basketball is just inferior in every way on the court. Sure, the atmosphere might be great and the players play hard, blah blah blah, but they still stink. The offensive sets are juvenile and no one can play defense. NBA is worse than paint drying to me. 46 minutes of "who the fuck cares" for the possibility for the final 2 minutes to take a half hour to play out. All of this to decide which 53% of the teams make the playoffs, of which three of the sixteen might have the chance to win it all. It has all the intrigue of a Gilligan's Island episode.
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 6, 2019 19:10:26 GMT
Agree to disagree here. The college hoops season means nothing either. Every night there are games on that do not matter in the slightest. I know the NBA has these too, but at least I am watching superior basketball. Watch a college game closely. How many players are moving without the ball? How many players are throwing meaningful passes and actually moving the ball around in an intelligent way? How many teams have to play zone on a regular basis because no one can play man to man defense? I have played ball my entire life and I like to watch the best of the best. I always here that these teams mail it in all year and I disagree. EVERY night in the NBA there is an exciting game where teams play hard. I see better defense in a Boston or Indiana regular season game than I would in a national championship. The players, coaches, style of play, etc. are just all superior in the pros. I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, I just have more fun watching college hoops. But I disagree about the coaching. Most of the pro coaches are absolutely terrible. There are like 5 coaches in the NBA who are worth a shit, and that might be generous on my part. NBA coaches are less than useless - - all of them. If Phil Jackson had coached the Raptors and Wizards, nobody would say one thing about him. The NBA needs coaches as much as the Oscars needs a host. Hell, the star players make all the decisions anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 19:12:49 GMT
College basketball is just inferior in every way on the court. Sure, the atmosphere might be great and the players play hard, blah blah blah, but they still stink. The offensive sets are juvenile and no one can play defense. NBA is worse than paint drying to me. 46 minutes of "who the fuck cares" for the possibility for the final 2 minutes to take a half hour to play out. All of this to decide which 53% of the teams make the playoffs, of which three of the sixteen might have the chance to win it all. It has all the intrigue of a Gilligan's Island episode. I really wish the NBA would change its playoff system. Over half the league making it is bullshit. Seeing teams under .500 constantly getting in is terrible. Not to mention every damn series is a best of seven meaning the playoffs last for 2 damn months. They should make it where 12 teams get in and the top 2 teams get byes and the advantage of resting which star players do throughout the regular season anyways. Have the series be best of 3 then best of 5 and then the Conference Championship and Finals can be 7 games.
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Post by tristramshandy on Feb 6, 2019 19:33:16 GMT
NBA is worse than paint drying to me. 46 minutes of "who the fuck cares" for the possibility for the final 2 minutes to take a half hour to play out. All of this to decide which 53% of the teams make the playoffs, of which three of the sixteen might have the chance to win it all. It has all the intrigue of a Gilligan's Island episode. I really wish the NBA would change its playoff system. Over half the league making it is bullshit. Seeing teams under .500 constantly getting in is terrible. Not to mention every damn series is a best of seven meaning the playoffs last for 2 damn months. They should make it where 12 teams get in and the top 2 teams get byes and the advantage of resting which star players do throughout the regular season anyways. Have the series be best of 3 then best of 5 and then the Conference Championship and Finals can be 7 games. The team that wins the NBA Championship plays more games in the playoffs than an NFL team plays for its whole season. NBA regular season is worse than useless.
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Post by Aj_June on Feb 6, 2019 19:51:29 GMT
Being a cricket fan I get to see country vs country action all the year around. Recently, West Indies stunned England contrary to expectations and we got to see 2 awesome test matches. 2019 world cup in England will hopefully provide us with great moments although international cricket goes on all year because different countries have different local cricket seasons depending on the weather patterns.
For me, country vs country sport has its own charm that is often missing from club sport where you often see infidel players who leave their teams for money or winning.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 6, 2019 20:09:41 GMT
I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, I just have more fun watching college hoops. But I disagree about the coaching. Most of the pro coaches are absolutely terrible. There are like 5 coaches in the NBA who are worth a shit, and that might be generous on my part. NBA coaches are less than useless - - all of them. If Phil Jackson had coached the Raptors and Wizards, nobody would say one thing about him. The NBA needs coaches as much as the Oscars needs a host. Hell, the star players make all the decisions anyway. Yes and no, I guess. A handful of them are really good with X's and O's, like Brad Stevens. But most of them just dole out playing time. The thing with Jackson is he had a way with star players. Jordan never won anything until Jackson came around. Shaq and Kobe were getting swept out of the playoffs until Jackson showed up, then they 3-peated. That team imploded, Jackson 'retired' for a while, and when he came back they won two more Finals. It's a players' league for sure, but there's something to be said for a guiding force getting everyone to focus on the big picture. Sometimes you get the right group of guys and win one title; but some guys are just good at getting players to buy in. Either way those guys are few and far between. You listen to most NBA coaches and realize most of the crowd probably has a better basketball IQ than these guys.
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Post by poelzig on Feb 7, 2019 1:47:33 GMT
Easily the NBA. College hoops and hockey blow. You got half of that right. College hoops, actually college sports, blow. I’m always tempted to make a trolling thread about the subject but never quite get around to it. People that are too simple minded to go to college sure do hate college sports. Ironically they are also too "special" to realize how transparent their reason for hating college sports are to everyone else. Couple that with an inability to follow thru on anything and it's actually kind of sad. No offense to anyone personally.
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