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Post by pimpinainteasy on Feb 6, 2019 5:51:50 GMT
i like the traditional as well as spaghetti westerns. but name westerns where the director tried to do something new with the genre. i cannot think of any at the moment.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 6, 2019 6:17:32 GMT
Johnny Guitar The Quick and the Dead
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Post by kijii on Feb 6, 2019 6:59:32 GMT
i like the traditional as well as spaghetti westerns. but name westerns where the director tried to do something new with the genre. i cannot think of any at the moment.
Try Woman Obsessed (1959) / Henry Hathaway. This is a drama with no hero or villain and no one kills anyone. Rather, it is a drama about a widow (Susan Hayward) and her young son. When a rather simple man (Stephen Boyd) enters their lives to help them, the woman marries him and conceives his child, thinking she loves him. However, he fails to win over the young son...which threatens their marriage. This is a Canadian Western with no town, saloon, lawman, cattle or sheep. In this way, it is a different kind of western. The drama is good but unlike the traditional western,
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 6, 2019 7:30:11 GMT
Let's not forget El Topo
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Feb 6, 2019 7:46:15 GMT
The late Mr. Micheal Joseph "Wacko Jacko Pedo" Jackson's FAVORITE Western!!!
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 6, 2019 7:55:08 GMT
The late Mr. Micheal Joseph "Wacko Jacko Pedo" Jackson's FAVORITE Western!!! And I think I know why. And how could I ever forget "The Terror of Tiny Town"
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 6, 2019 10:16:56 GMT
Johnny Guitar The Shooting Dead Man
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Post by sostie on Feb 6, 2019 14:34:05 GMT
The Good, the Bad and the Weird Dead Man Ballad Of Cable Hogue Soldier Blue The Proposition Ravenous Bone Tomahawk High Plains Drifter Straight to Hell
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Post by politicidal on Feb 6, 2019 15:33:41 GMT
The Valley of Gwangi (1969)
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Post by jervistetch on Feb 6, 2019 15:36:13 GMT
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Post by koskiewicz on Feb 6, 2019 17:48:26 GMT
Left Handed Gun
Last Train From Gun Hill
El Grande Silencio
Django
A Fistful of Dynamite
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Post by hi224 on Feb 6, 2019 18:27:17 GMT
I forgot the whole name but their was a TV series in 50s directed by Stanley Kubrick which was unconventional with how it was shot as well. It was canceled after a season.
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Post by morrisondylanfan on Feb 6, 2019 19:24:38 GMT
I forgot the whole name but their was a TV series in 50s directed by Stanley Kubrick which was unconventional with how it was shot as well. It was canceled after a season. I think you are thinking of someone else hi,Kubrick did not direct any TV shows.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 6, 2019 19:29:11 GMT
In the same vein (pun intended)β¦
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Post by hi224 on Feb 6, 2019 20:29:22 GMT
I forgot the whole name but their was a TV series in 50s directed by Stanley Kubrick which was unconventional with how it was shot as well. It was canceled after a season. I think you are thinking of someone else hi,Kubrick did not direct any TV shows. Mightve produced.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 6, 2019 21:13:29 GMT
Hannie Calder Bone Tomahawk Billy the Kid vs Dracula Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter Cowboys and Aliens A Gunfight
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Post by Lebowskidoo πππ» on Feb 6, 2019 21:54:31 GMT
That movie version of Wild Wild West.
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Post by mikef6 on Feb 6, 2019 22:15:49 GMT
You can get a western-murder mystery mash-up in:
Three Hours To Kill (1954)
And a couple of crime caper and western combos (both starring Alan Ladd):
The Badlanders (1958) β said to be a western remake of The Asphalt Jungle but I donβt see it One Foot In Hell (1960)
And western noir:
The Fiend Who Walked The West (1958) - a western remake of βKiss Of Deathβ (1947)
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Feb 6, 2019 23:07:37 GMT
Dirty Little Billy (1972) - www.imdb.com/title/tt0068487/reference
Pre fame mud and rags telling of Billy The Kid.
Directed by Stan Dragoti, co-written by Dragoti and Charles Moss, and starring Michael J. Pollard, Richard Evans and Lee Purcell. Music is by Sascha Burland and cinematography by Ralph Woolsey.
Dirty Little Billy firmly de-glamourises the Billy The Kid legend, well sort of. This is a portrayal of the infamous outlaw before he became just that. Film is telling of what he was before he made his first kill, his weak standing in society, his turbulent family life, and his tentative steps to making friends - where he is clingy extreme. The backdrop is one of mud and rags, there is no showy Wild West here, it very much operates as an Anti-Western, an independent picture firmly offering up a flip side to some of the legends printed as fact. Technically it is just ok, where things are strongly hindered by Pollard simply being too old. Asking a 33 year old man to play a teenager is a stretch, it is with much credit that Pollard gives it his all and nails at the least the village idiot side of Billy pre his fame.
Not a hidden gem by any stretch of the imagination, it does however show up a side to Billy The Kid not often told in the history of film and literature. Worth seeking out for that point of reference, but as entertainment or a viable Western film of note? I'm not sure. 5/10
The White Buffalo (1977) - www.imdb.com/title/tt0076915/reference
You're looking to wear a marble hat.
The White Buffalo is directed by J. Lee Thompson and adapted to screenplay by Richard Sale from his own novel of the same name. It stars Charles Bronson, Will Sampson, Jack Warden, Clint Walker, Slim Pickens and Kim Novak. Music is scored by John Barry and cinematography by Paul Lohmann. Plot finds Wild Bill Hickok (Bronson) and Crazy Horse (Sampson) teaming up to fight a giant white buffalo during the bleak winter of 1874. Hickok is plagued by nightmares of the beast, Crazy Horse is out purely for revenge after the rampaging creature laid waste to his village and killed his newly born son.
It flopped at the box office, which in all honesty is not hard to understand, for The White Buffalo had too many things to fight against to put up a good showing. It's very much an odd movie, a strange blending of genres, it often looks cheap and it had the unenviable task of trying to stay in the giant beast slipstream created by Jaws two years previously. After Spielberg unleashed his Carcharodon Carcharias on the cinema loving world, a number of film makers tried the same idea but with different creatures, Grizzly and the star studded Tentacles were just two around the same period, even King Kong got a re-imaging in 76, while The White Buffalo was also up against the Richard Harris led Orca: Killer Whale (also featuring Will Sampson) this same year. Was the 1970s film lover in need of a hybrid creature feature Western with shades of Moby Dick stitched into the narrative? One with an oddly cast Bronson playing a legendary man of the West with sun glasses and penis rot? No was the answer, but a cult fan base grew over the years and it's definitely worth more than a second glance these days.
Film pretty much thrives on mystical symbolism, shades of the supernatural hang over proceedings, while the Native American culture is given adherence as well. The idea of teaming up two legends of the West, enemies at that, also gives the picture a high novelty factor. As the two men, and Warden's gruff Charlie Zane who is along for the ride, go off in search of the beast, they must overcome hostilities of the human kind as well as the harsh winter that nature has provided for the back drop. Time is afforded development of story and principle characters, this is not merely an excuse to be a carnage based creature feature, it has ideas formed around man against nature, men against their fate, often it is philosophical, even literate. Of course this has proved to be seen as pretentious by some, and once the big white animatronic thunders into view with its awesome sound effects, it's easy to be steered away from the more brainy aspects of the piece!
John Barry lays a magnificent foreboding score over the top of it, a score that deserves a better film in truth, but it imbues the picture with a sense of dread, helping us to stay with Wild Bill and Crazy Horse to see if they can cut down the demon while casting off their own? The studio filmed sequences are unfortunate, but necessary considering the budget restrictions, yet the sets do have a garish quality about them, further aiding the weirdness on offer. Cast performances are perfectly in keeping with the material, Bronson as cool as ever, though it should be noted that Novak, Walker, Pickens and Stuart Whitman really are light support players here. Much has been made of the creature design, unfavourably so, but it's one of the better animatronic creations of the 70s. Put it alongside those used in the Kevin Connor pictures around this period and you can see its benefits. Though facial close ups should have been kept to a minimum!
It's obviously not high art and it has ideas above its station, while some of Michael F. Anderson's editing is so dizzying your head might explode. But this is no ordinary picture, surreal and hypnotic, intelligent yet off beat, it's better than you might think and worth viewing more than once with expectations levels correctly channelled. 7/10
I can't recommend this enough >
Purgatory (1999) - www.imdb.com/title/tt0158131/reference
To think some of you used to be my heroes.
There quite often comes a time when a film fan who is so enamoured with a specific genre or style of film making, comes across a picture that one knows is far from perfect if deconstructed frame by frame, but still loves it with every breath they take. Purgatory is one such film for myself.
Purgatory, a TNT TV production, is that rare old beast of the Western fused with fantastical or supernatural elements. More often than not this is a blend that proved to be disastrous, hence why there are so few films of this type put into production here in the modern era. Yet director Uli Edel and producer Daniel Schneider pulled it off back in 1999, my only regret is that it took me so long to let it into my cinematic life.
The title is something of a give away, thus rendering the supposed twist as being hardly surprising. However, it was not the intention of the film makers to hoist a Sixth Sense surprise on us, really it wasn't. We are asked to put ourselves into the young Greenhorn shoes of Leon "Sonny" Miller (Brad Rowe) and experience his own coming of age awakening. From dime novels and hero worship to first kills and first loves, Sonny is our conduit and the key holder to the gates of redemption for many of the Wild West's legendary characters.
The cast is a veritable feast of splendid character actors playing a veritable feast of iconic real life people. Sam Shepard, Eric Roberts, Randy Quaid, Peter Stormare, Donnie Wahlberg and J.D. Souther. While Brad Fiedel provides a musical score of some magnificent beauty, a piece that revels in heroic swirls and escalating emotions, it darts around the town of "Refuge" like a novelist writing a dime novel soon to go down in folklore legend.
Budget restrictions are hidden very well, Edel and his cinematographer William Wages prove adept at lighting techniques and scene staging. Be it keeping things in the shade or cloaking a sequence with believable dust clouds, there's a professional touch here that puts the pic into the upper echelons of TV movies.
Then there's the action, a key component for so many Western fans, and thankfully Purgatory is book-ended by superb action sequences, with the finale a skilled lesson in shoot-out choreography and machismo pulse beats. And then there's the emotional kickers, ready to be embraced by those who still yearn to have the spirit lifted and the heart gladdened.
I could write a whole weighty paragraph on Purgatory's flaws, maybe even point out thematically what I think will annoy others, because for sure not everything works. But as a Western movie lover I found myself cheering at the film's end, even wiping away a damn fly from my eye. That's job done for me, a Western that tickled and teased my every emotion, wonderful. 10/10
Then there's a whole host of Anti/Revionist Westerns that pushed the genre in another direction - McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Buffalo Bill and the Indians, or Sitting Bull's History Lesson etc
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Post by BATouttaheck on Feb 6, 2019 23:31:05 GMT
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