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Post by Toy-Cannon on Feb 6, 2019 6:36:53 GMT
Yes, and hell yes.
MLB rule changes for 2019? Three-batter requirement for all pitchers, universal DH
A hallmark of Rob Manfred's tenure as MLB commissioner has been structural tweaks designed to improve pace of play and shorten game times. To date, these initiatives have not made a great deal of difference, and a declining level of action on the field -- rising strikeout rates are the leading culprits -- remains a concern moving forward.
Manfred isn't done though. Here's this scoop from The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal:
As part of a Jan. 14 proposal to the players' union on pace of play, baseball suggested a rule requiring pitchers to face a minimum of three batters, sources told The Athletic.
As Rosenthal also reports, the players countered by proposing, among other measures, universal adoption of the designated hitter as soon as the upcoming season. For all the details, you'll want to give Rosenthal's piece a full read.
The DH in the National League will probably happen eventually, but seeing such a drastic shift in time for the 2019 season seems unlikely. As for MLB's idea, it's probably more realistic in the near-term. In part, that's because Manfred has the power to institute pace-of-play measures on his own.
On the surface, that's what this is. Most managers these days have at their disposal a lefty or two who specialize in facing one batter at a time -- usually the opposition's most menacing left-handed hitter. This, of course, isn't especially entertaining for fans, who get to watch two relievers warm up in quick succession. Mandating that each pitcher face at least three batters would strike a blow against this practice. It could also serve to cut down on "bullpen bloat" that's led to 13-man pitching staffs becoming the norm. That, in turn, would allow for larger benches and, presumably, better pinch-hitters.
It might also work against that rising strikeout rate. Such a rule would mean teams would probably seek out relievers capable of working longer. Maybe they wouldn't throw quite as hard and wouldn't feature quite so many of those devastating breaking pitchers that make life hell for same-side hitters. Those are probably longer-term effects though. More potent benches plus fewer fire-breathers in the bullpen could also mean more late-inning drama.
It's an idea that makes some sense on a variety of levels. However, Manfred may have to do it by fiat, as the players probably aren't in the most cooperative of moods given the curiously slow free-agent market.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 6, 2019 6:49:04 GMT
Chatter about this all winter, what keeps standing out for me is 2019 rules might change as late as mid March. Amateur hour.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Feb 6, 2019 7:16:32 GMT
First one is good. Second not so much.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Feb 6, 2019 8:49:06 GMT
No way does the NL adopt the DH this season. Ridiculous. Are the NL going to start to scramble for another big bat days before camps open?
I think Ken Rosenthal’a bow tie is too tight.
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Post by millar70 on Feb 6, 2019 9:46:49 GMT
I'm totally fine with the pitchers rule, the game is better with less guys in the bullpen and more guys on the bench.
I'm not into the universal DH at all though. I've been watching Giants baseball for many years, and I've come to appreciate and love the NL brand of baseball, plus I've always like the uniqueness of each League doing it differently.
The herd mentality says that universal DH is something that's gonna happen no matter what, so I'll have to live with it. Can't imagine it happening this year, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 9:59:18 GMT
I like the 3 better rule. It's annoying seeing managers doing the lefty matchup for 1 batter or seeing multiple subs in an inning. I'm assuming the rule doesnt include if a pitcher gets hurt though.
The DH can kindly fuck right off in my opinion.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 6, 2019 15:38:24 GMT
DH will be universal, yet they'd be wise to make it official right after a WS for a following season, or make it a 1-2yr advanced announcement.
More to this MLB stuff, I've been reading more & more about Portland supplanting Mexico City or Monterrey as next in line with Montreal. MLB had better be right about that because Portland doesn't scream piles of money waiting to burn. Alas, we're probably not getting either until Oakland &/or Tampa are locked in or locked out - because god forbid MLB takes away relocation scare tactics by erasing the 2 best destinations. Isn't Tampa's lease until 2027 or whatever keeping them off the table?
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Post by klawrencio79 on Feb 6, 2019 18:54:59 GMT
I'm totally fine with the pitchers rule, the game is better with less guys in the bullpen and more guys on the bench. I'm not into the universal DH at all though. I've been watching Giants baseball for many years, and I've come to appreciate and love the NL brand of baseball, plus I've always like the uniqueness of each League doing it differently. The herd mentality says that universal DH is something that's gonna happen no matter what, so I'll have to live with it. Can't imagine it happening this year, though. I dunno about herd mentality, but it is an inevitability. Once Corey Kluber (or someone of his caliber) gets hurt while trying to swing a bat, you'll see these efforts increase dramatically from the players union. Sad but true. I'm fine with the AL keeping it (not that it was ever in doubt) as I grew up with it like that and I also like that both leagues do it differently.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Feb 6, 2019 19:15:32 GMT
I don’t understand why pitchers can’t learn to hit. They’re athletes, they probably hit at some point in their lives. All of a sudden they hit like they’re Urkel. Every player should be like Ohtani.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Feb 6, 2019 19:31:23 GMT
I don’t understand why pitchers can’t learn to hit. They’re athletes, they probably hit at some point in their lives. All of a sudden they hit like they’re Urkel. Every player should be like Ohtani. I'm fine with the guys who are just mediocre at it. Like Jacob deGrom is a .186 hitter for his career but at least he has an idea of what he's doing out there and can put the ball in play. Ever see Al Leiter try to swing a bat? Or Jon Lester? It may as well be you or me up there. Even if you're in the AL for much of your career and then move over to the NL, you still batted throughout college, the minors, or wherever else you came from, it's not like it's a completely foreign idea for you.
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Post by _ on Feb 6, 2019 19:35:18 GMT
Who even cares anymore?
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Post by NJtoTX on Feb 6, 2019 19:47:06 GMT
I like the 3 better rule. It's annoying seeing managers doing the lefty matchup for 1 batter or seeing multiple subs in an inning. I'm assuming the rule doesnt include if a pitcher gets hurt though. The DH can kindly fuck right off in my opinion. Pitchers will be getting "hurt" often.
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Post by _ on Feb 6, 2019 19:48:24 GMT
I like the 3 better rule. It's annoying seeing managers doing the lefty matchup for 1 batter or seeing multiple subs in an inning. I'm assuming the rule doesnt include if a pitcher gets hurt though. The DH can kindly fuck right off in my opinion. Pitchers will be getting "hurt" often. So basically, it took us about 5 seconds to expose the stupidity of this rule.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Feb 6, 2019 19:56:46 GMT
Then they’ll make a rule where if he gets “hurt” he’ll have to sit for a week.
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Post by _ on Feb 6, 2019 19:58:35 GMT
Then they’ll make a rule where if he gets “hurt” he’ll have to sit for a week. WE NEED AS MANY NEW RULES AS POSSIBLE!
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Feb 6, 2019 20:08:43 GMT
Then they’ll make a rule where if he gets “hurt” he’ll have to sit for a week. WE NEED AS MANY NEW RULES AS POSSIBLE! Hey NFL, what’s a catch?
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Post by _ on Feb 6, 2019 20:10:35 GMT
WE NEED AS MANY NEW RULES AS POSSIBLE! Hey NFL, what’s a catch? They should also change OT every year. Next year, you need a Safety to win.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Feb 6, 2019 20:56:05 GMT
They should also change OT every year. Next year, you need a Safety to win. The entire team, for both sides, including guys who were injured during the game, have to do burpees. Team with the last man still going wins.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Feb 6, 2019 21:26:56 GMT
They should also change OT every year. Next year, you need a Safety to win. The entire team, for both sides, including guys who were injured during the game, have to do burpees. Team with the last man still going wins. The following year each team is divided into three. One third has a free throw contest, another third a field goal contest, and the other third a shootout (complete with ice and skates). Which ever team wins 2 out of three contests win the game.
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Post by weststigersbob on Feb 6, 2019 22:45:00 GMT
Pitchers will be getting "hurt" often. So basically, it took us about 5 seconds to expose the stupidity of this rule. Easily fixed - simply restrict the amount of pitchers allowed in the bullpen per game. If you burn all 5 (per se) then you’d better hope your 3B has a decent slider. Make big league managers earn their fucking money. Likewise pitchers. It is my second biggest gripe regarding baseball - ‘specialist pitchers’. 8th inning specialists. Lefty one batter specialists. Gimme a break. Any pitcher worth his pay check in the major league should be confident enough to get an out against any hitter, anywhere, anytime. As for the DH - dumbest rule in sports. Not only do have a genuine player who doesn’t bat, you replace him with one who doesn’t field. It also eliminates one of the best substitution situations in sports - the double switch.....
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