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Post by darkpast on Feb 6, 2019 17:45:11 GMT
I hope Disney does not just use Fox for franchise films
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 6, 2019 19:09:10 GMT
4,000 people out of work is hard to stomach; however, this is a far lower figure than the original reports of 5,000 to 10,000 jobs lost.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 6, 2019 23:30:39 GMT
Like a Belko Experiment massacre or just collateral damage from Gordon Gekko's shenanigans?
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 7, 2019 2:56:37 GMT
I hope Disney does not just use Fox for franchise films
WOW! 4000 people will lose their jobs just so MCU fans can get X-Men and Fantastic Four into their universe. That's sad.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 7, 2019 3:19:17 GMT
As for the lost of jobs, am I right in saying that Fox was going to sell no matter what? It wasn't a forced take over. Fox wanted to sell. Whoever bought them Comcast or another company was going to have to absorb them. A company with experience in the business that could afford them would have to cull jobs. Duplication being inefficient.
The only way I could see that no loss of jobs would happen would be if someone outside the business bought them. Which would mean either you have a very inexperienced/unproven company would have to buy them and try to run it, so there would be no job duplication. Or a business that was looking just for the IP and would dismantle the studios and sell it off piece by piece. Either way Fox wouldn't want to sell to them.
The only recourse to save those jobs would be to ban Fox from selling to anybody. This would effectively take away a company's right to determine their own future.
It's a shit situation when it comes jobs vs the right to determine ones own future.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 3:28:40 GMT
I hope Disney does not just use Fox for franchise films
WOW! 4000 people will lose their jobs just so MCU fans can get X-Men and Fantastic Four into their universe. That's sad. Idiot
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 3:30:16 GMT
Well it's a business, not a charity. I agree with Disney, why have so much double handling. This is normal for a merger or I should say smart
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 7, 2019 4:04:47 GMT
I hope Disney does not just use Fox for franchise films
WOW! 4000 people will lose their jobs just so MCU fans can get X-Men and Fantastic Four into their universe. That's sad. Literally Comcast would've done the same.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 7, 2019 4:26:21 GMT
I hope Disney does not just use Fox for franchise films
WOW! 4000 people will lose their jobs just so MCU fans can get X-Men and Fantastic Four into their universe. That's sad. Oh no, you've misunderstood. Four thousand people will lose their jobs so you can spend all of your spare time here. This place will become your prison and your tomb. We will make sure there is a steady stream of irksome news out of the Marvel camp for years to come. This is only the beggining. Welcome to your new home away from home, it just happens to be the capital city of the new MCU empire. How about that superbowl? Hee hee hee...
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Post by darkpast on Feb 7, 2019 5:14:22 GMT
As for the lost of jobs, am I right in saying that Fox was going to sell no matter what? It wasn't a forced take over. Fox wanted to sell. Whoever bought them Comcast or another company was going to have to absorb them. A company with experience in the business that could afford them would have to cull jobs. Duplication being inefficient. The only way I could see that no loss of jobs would happen would be if someone outside the business bought them. Which would mean either you have a very inexperienced/unproven company would have to buy them and try to run it, so there would be no job duplication. Or a business that was looking just for the IP and would dismantle the studios and sell it off piece by piece. Either way Fox wouldn't want to sell to them. The only recourse to save those jobs would be to ban Fox from selling to anybody. This would effectively take away a company's right to determine their own future. It's a shit situation when it comes jobs vs the right to determine ones own future. Correct , if an Apple , Google or Amazon bought them then there would be minimal loss. They would want to keep it running mostly as is , as they want to be big players in content business. Murdoch and Disney stockholders went with was best for his/their bank account not caring about the employees.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 7, 2019 6:29:42 GMT
Well it's a business, not a charity. I agree with Disney, why have so much double handling. This is normal for a merger or I should say smart When AT&T acquired DirectTV, they shed 25,000 employees over the course of two years. Direct TV started with 31,500 staff prior to the merger. Where are our tears for those workers? Anyone crying over job losses with regard to Disney's acquisition of Fox is either an imbecile or a hypocrite.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 7, 2019 6:52:32 GMT
As for the lost of jobs, am I right in saying that Fox was going to sell no matter what? It wasn't a forced take over. Fox wanted to sell. Whoever bought them Comcast or another company was going to have to absorb them. A company with experience in the business that could afford them would have to cull jobs. Duplication being inefficient. The only way I could see that no loss of jobs would happen would be if someone outside the business bought them. Which would mean either you have a very inexperienced/unproven company would have to buy them and try to run it, so there would be no job duplication. Or a business that was looking just for the IP and would dismantle the studios and sell it off piece by piece. Either way Fox wouldn't want to sell to them. The only recourse to save those jobs would be to ban Fox from selling to anybody. This would effectively take away a company's right to determine their own future. It's a shit situation when it comes jobs vs the right to determine ones own future. Correct , if an Apple , Google or Amazon bought them then there would be minimal loss. They would want to keep it running mostly as is , as they want to be big players in content business. Murdoch and Disney stockholders went with was best for his/their bank account not caring about the employees. Leaving things intact from an outsider isn't always good news employees for mergers. Look at AOL and Time Warner. Not only were they sorta incompatible on either side of the businesses on a fundamental level the 2 cultures were incompatible. Causing eventually the shedding of a lot of employees. It could be argued that if another company had bought AOL and shed a decent amount of employees in the beginning and got both sides of the company working in tangent then less employees would've been shed overall. Mergers are complicated. With the goal of being a boost to the buyer and the seller more than a few things have to coincide. There's no way to tell in the beginning if shedding 4,000 employees now won't mean that in the future both companies grow and a net gain of employees will happen. Or if the merger doesn't take at all and you shed all the employees. Who's to say if Amazon, Google, or Apple would buy Fox and eventually would have to sell the assets and just keep the IP. I mean all three have bought companies and they have failed. Google alone has bought 200 companies since 2001. Google bought Motorola for 12 billion and eventually sold what was left for 2.5 billion. And to be sure they stripped what they could of Motorola before selling it. Fox was looking for a safe bet that the company would continue after they sold it. That's the reason why they turned down the initial Higher Offer from Comcast because Comcast would've leveraged themselves so high with Debt that Comcast/Fox would crash and burn and Comcast would have to salvage years later. Or that was one of the reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 7:29:07 GMT
Well it's a business, not a charity. I agree with Disney, why have so much double handling. This is normal for a merger or I should say smart When AT&T acquired DirectTV, they shed 25,000 employees over the course of two years. Direct TV started with 31,500 staff prior to the merger. Where are our tears for those workers? Anyone crying over job losses with regard to Disney's acquisition of Fox is either an imbecile or a hypocrite. Exactly, also some people have no idea about how businesses work, i mean would they want the business to make no money and then fire everyone instead of the thousands?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 7, 2019 11:33:28 GMT
It's terrible for people to lose their jobs, but what can you do?
This is what happens when you allow companies and corporations merge and cannibalize each other.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 8, 2019 16:21:41 GMT
What a non-story.
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Post by darkpast on Feb 8, 2019 17:36:36 GMT
thousands of people losing jobs is not a a non-story.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 8, 2019 19:22:08 GMT
Don't worry guys. Just look at what Disney has done with Star Wa-- oh, shit.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 8, 2019 19:34:36 GMT
WOW! 4000 people will lose their jobs just so MCU fans can get X-Men and Fantastic Four into their universe. That's sad. Oh no, you've misunderstood. Four thousand people will lose their jobs so you can spend all of your spare time here. This place will become your prison and your tomb. We will make sure there is a steady stream of irksome news out of the Marvel camp for years to come. This is only the beggining. Welcome to your new home away from home, it just happens to be the capital city of the new MCU empire. How about that superbowl?ย Hee hee hee... So basically you're in love with him.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Feb 8, 2019 20:29:06 GMT
Oh no, you've misunderstood. Four thousand people will lose their jobs so you can spend all of your spare time here. This place will become your prison and your tomb. We will make sure there is a steady stream of irksome news out of the Marvel camp for years to come. This is only the beggining. Welcome to your new home away from home, it just happens to be the capital city of the new MCU empire. How about that superbowl? Hee hee hee... So basically you're in love with him. So basically YOU'RE in love in him.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Feb 8, 2019 21:42:54 GMT
So basically you're in love with him. So basically YOU'RE in love in him.ย
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