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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 10, 2019 18:08:15 GMT
I’m kind of curious about this. When Thanos snapped his fingers... he obviously destroyed 50% of the universe.. but how does that play out? He said it’s at random. But did he destroy half of the universe in general? Or did every single world lose 50% of their population?
Like could Earth have lost 20% of their people while Knowhere lost 75% or something? And what about worlds that Thanos already “cleansed”? Like Gamora’s planet where he had already murdered half the population and it was apparently now “thriving”.. did they lose much of their population AGAIN?
Just a random thought.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 10, 2019 18:33:24 GMT
Supposedly it killed 50% BUT I believe it was a higher death toll.
If the dusting is as random as it's Claimed to be, we have to account the possibility that even more were killed.
Things like plane crashes and car crashes could easily cause multiple casualties.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2019 18:34:41 GMT
I’m kind of curious about this. When Thanos snapped his fingers... he obviously destroyed 50% of the universe.. but how does that play out? He said it’s at random. But did he destroy half of the universe in general? Or did every single world lose 50% of their population? Like could Earth have lost 20% of their people while Knowhere lost 75% or something? And what about worlds that Thanos already “cleansed”? Like Gamora’s planet where he had already murdered half the population and it was apparently now “thriving”.. did they lose much of their population AGAIN? Just a random thought. Well, the snap should be independent of what happened in the past on Gamora's planet or any other planet. So the snap wouldn't care about Gamora's planet losing half of its population in the past or another planet having feast or famine in the past that killed a large percentage of their population. The snap should only take into account the current population at the time of the snap. It's not clear whether each world loses 50% or if some worlds lose more and some worlds lose less. If the latter, then it could be a case where 1 world loses 95% of its population, which would basically result in that world going extinct, while another world loses only 5% of its population, which wouldn't really alleviate the resource limitation issue. So this is another reason why Thanos' plan is stupid.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2019 18:36:29 GMT
Supposedly it killed 50% BUT I believe it was a higher death toll. If the dusting is as random as it's Claimed to be, we have to account the possibility that even more were killed. Things like plane crashes and car crashes could easily cause multiple casualties. Yep, the snap wouldn't know that 1 of the 50% who is turned to dust just happening to be piloting a commercial passenger jet at the time that he's turned to dust. So the death toll would be higher than 50%.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 10, 2019 18:44:46 GMT
I’m kind of curious about this. When Thanos snapped his fingers... he obviously destroyed 50% of the universe.. but how does that play out? He said it’s at random. But did he destroy half of the universe in general? Or did every single world lose 50% of their population? Like could Earth have lost 20% of their people while Knowhere lost 75% or something? And what about worlds that Thanos already “cleansed”? Like Gamora’s planet where he had already murdered half the population and it was apparently now “thriving”.. did they lose much of their population AGAIN? Just a random thought. Well, the snap should be independent of what happened in the past on Gamora's planet or any other planet. So the snap wouldn't care about Gamora's planet losing half of its population in the past or another planet having feast or famine in the past that killed a large percentage of their population. The snap should only take into account the current population at the time of the snap. It's not clear whether each world loses 50% or if some worlds lose more and some worlds lose less. If the latter, then it could be a case where 1 world loses 95% of its population, which would basically result in that world going extinct, while another world loses only 5% of its population, which wouldn't really alleviate the resource limitation issue. So this is another reason why Thanos' plan is stupid. Glad you took the time to think this through.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 10, 2019 19:09:09 GMT
I’m kind of curious about this. When Thanos snapped his fingers... he obviously destroyed 50% of the universe.. but how does that play out? He said it’s at random. But did he destroy half of the universe in general? Or did every single world lose 50% of their population? Like could Earth have lost 20% of their people while Knowhere lost 75% or something? And what about worlds that Thanos already “cleansed”? Like Gamora’s planet where he had already murdered half the population and it was apparently now “thriving”.. did they lose much of their population AGAIN? Just a random thought. Well, the snap should be independent of what happened in the past on Gamora's planet or any other planet. So the snap wouldn't care about Gamora's planet losing half of its population in the past or another planet having feast or famine in the past that killed a large percentage of their population. The snap should only take into account the current population at the time of the snap. It's not clear whether each world loses 50% or if some worlds lose more and some worlds lose less. If the latter, then it could be a case where 1 world loses 95% of its population, which would basically result in that world going extinct, while another world loses only 5% of its population, which wouldn't really alleviate the resource limitation issue. So this is another reason why Thanos' plan is stupid. I guess it makes sense that Gamora’s planet wouldn’t be excluded but it also brings up more questions. How long did Thanos have this plan? Since the downfall of Titan? If he had it for longer than his past genocides, why would he even need to mass murder planets? If his goal was to eventually get the Infinity Stones and destroy half the population of the universe, which would include planets he already “cleansed”, then he didn’t really need to do all that along the way. The only thing I can think is that maybe he has more control over who was chosen and how.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 10, 2019 19:11:05 GMT
Well, the snap should be independent of what happened in the past on Gamora's planet or any other planet. So the snap wouldn't care about Gamora's planet losing half of its population in the past or another planet having feast or famine in the past that killed a large percentage of their population. The snap should only take into account the current population at the time of the snap. It's not clear whether each world loses 50% or if some worlds lose more and some worlds lose less. If the latter, then it could be a case where 1 world loses 95% of its population, which would basically result in that world going extinct, while another world loses only 5% of its population, which wouldn't really alleviate the resource limitation issue. So this is another reason why Thanos' plan is stupid. I guess it makes sense that Gamora’s planet wouldn’t be excluded but it also brings up more questions. How long did Thanos have this plan? Since the downfall of Titan? If he had it for longer than his past genocides, why would he even need to mass murder planets? If his goal was to eventually get the Infinity Stones and destroy half the population of the universe, which would include planets he already “cleansed”, then he didn’t really need to do all that along the way. The only thing I can think is that maybe he has more control over who was chosen and how. Most likely Kevin Feige and/or the Russos didn't think about it when he came up with Thanos' stupid plan.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 10, 2019 19:13:59 GMT
Supposedly it killed 50% BUT I believe it was a higher death toll. If the dusting is as random as it's Claimed to be, we have to account the possibility that even more were killed. Things like plane crashes and car crashes could easily cause multiple casualties. Oh yeah! That’s right too. So it will definitely be higher. But I still wonder how much of the loss on each planet is going to be from The Snappening. I’d have to assume it’s 50% from each planet or something like that. Like DC-Fan says.. it wouldn’t make a lot of sense if 95% of one world was taken and 5% of another making the resources aspect not entirely foolproof.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 10, 2019 20:21:07 GMT
Supposedly it killed 50% BUT I believe it was a higher death toll. If the dusting is as random as it's Claimed to be, we have to account the possibility that even more were killed. Things like plane crashes and car crashes could easily cause multiple casualties. Oh yeah! That’s right too. So it will definitely be higher. But I still wonder how much of the loss on each planet is going to be from The Snappening. I’d have to assume it’s 50% from each planet or something like that. Like DC-Fan says.. it wouldn’t make a lot of sense if 95% of one world was taken and 5% of another making the resources aspect not entirely foolproof. Its 50% from each world.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 10, 2019 23:10:10 GMT
Oh yeah! That’s right too. So it will definitely be higher. But I still wonder how much of the loss on each planet is going to be from The Snappening. I’d have to assume it’s 50% from each planet or something like that. Like DC-Fan says.. it wouldn’t make a lot of sense if 95% of one world was taken and 5% of another making the resources aspect not entirely foolproof. Its 50% from each world. Thats what I figure. Seems complicated though. Like what about people just flying through space on a ship? And it can’t just be whoever is on a planet at the time of the snap because more than half of the people on Titan disappeared. Only Tony and Nebula were left.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 10, 2019 23:15:11 GMT
I’m kind of curious about this. When Thanos snapped his fingers... he obviously destroyed 50% of the universe.. but how does that play out? He said it’s at random. But did he destroy half of the universe in general? Or did every single world lose 50% of their population? Like could Earth have lost 20% of their people while Knowhere lost 75% or something? And what about worlds that Thanos already “cleansed”? Like Gamora’s planet where he had already murdered half the population and it was apparently now “thriving”.. did they lose much of their population AGAIN? Just a random thought. I think it will end up with more than 50% from the turmoil it would cause. Not just planes and helicopters going down. The worlds would be in chaos. Despots would see it as an opportunity to try and seize control. Wars would start. Their would be more natural resources to go around in the long run but in the short run things wouldn't be delievered on time. Medicine, fuel, etc wouldn't show up to remote areas. What if a town the random 50% took out 80% of the cops but only 10% of the criminal forces with the rest by the "normal" citizens. Not to mention all the suicides. Yeah Hawkeye went Ronin to deal with the pain, but a lot would just end it.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 10, 2019 23:18:41 GMT
I don’t usually think through things like this in silly superhero movies (good to know that DC-Fan loves the MCU so much that he does, though), but, if Thanos is basically God with that gauntlet, can’t he see into the future and figure how many people will be killed? So that the people in the plane crashes, etc., will already be factored in to what he’s already foreseen as the consequences of the “snap”?
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 10, 2019 23:19:58 GMT
I don’t usually think through things like this in silly superhero movies (good to know that DC-Fan loves the MCU so much that he does, though), but, if Thanos is basically God with that gauntlet, can’t he see into the future and figure how many people will be killed? So that the people in the plane crashes, etc., will already be factored in to what he’s already foreseen as the consequences of the “snap”? Possible. We just don't know enough about the power given to him by the Gauntlet I suppose.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 10, 2019 23:20:12 GMT
^^^Or he didn’t care about the consequences and just killed 50% of the universe.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 10, 2019 23:23:39 GMT
^^^Or he didn’t care about the consequences and just killed 50% of the universe. I could see a lot of Tin-Pot Dictators rising and taking land, people for harems. Lots of rape, dismembering, mutilating and murder happening on less civilized planets... ahem like ours...
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 10, 2019 23:24:05 GMT
I’m kind of curious about this. When Thanos snapped his fingers... he obviously destroyed 50% of the universe.. but how does that play out? He said it’s at random. But did he destroy half of the universe in general? Or did every single world lose 50% of their population? Like could Earth have lost 20% of their people while Knowhere lost 75% or something? And what about worlds that Thanos already “cleansed”? Like Gamora’s planet where he had already murdered half the population and it was apparently now “thriving”.. did they lose much of their population AGAIN? Just a random thought. I think it will end up with more than 50% from the turmoil it would cause. Not just planes and helicopters going down. The worlds would be in chaos. Despots would see it as an opportunity to try and seize control. Wars would start. Their would be more natural resources to go around in the long run but in the short run things wouldn't be delievered on time. Medicine, fuel, etc wouldn't show up to remote areas. What if a town the random 50% took out 80% of the cops but only 10% of the criminal forces with the rest by the "normal" citizens. Not to mention all the suicides. Yeah Hawkeye went Ronin to deal with the pain, but a lot would just end it. Damn I’m curious to know every effect The Decimation would have on the universe.
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Post by Nalkarj on Feb 10, 2019 23:24:09 GMT
I don’t usually think through things like this in silly superhero movies (good to know that DC-Fan loves the MCU so much that he does, though), but, if Thanos is basically God with that gauntlet, can’t he see into the future and figure how many people will be killed? So that the people in the plane crashes, etc., will already be factored in to what he’s already foreseen as the consequences of the “snap”? Possible. We just don't know enough about the power given to him by the Gauntlet I suppose. Well, I looked up “infinity gauntlet,” and one of the stones is apparently a “time stone” (forgive me if I’m reinventing the wheel on this one—apparently it was the McGuffin in Doctor Strange, which I haven’t seen). That suggests, to me at least, that he can see the future.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 10, 2019 23:28:02 GMT
I don’t usually think through things like this in silly superhero movies (good to know that DC-Fan loves the MCU so much that he does, though), but, if Thanos is basically God with that gauntlet, can’t he see into the future and figure how many people will be killed? So that the people in the plane crashes, etc., will already be factored in to what he’s already foreseen as the consequences of the “snap”? I imagine he has to have some sort of thought that went into what exactly the snap would accomplish. Because it wouldn’t make sense to just take a random 50% which could have some planets still overpopulated and others practically desolate. It also would’ve been unnecessary to take half of the population of a planet that he already massacred.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 10, 2019 23:28:50 GMT
Possible. We just don't know enough about the power given to him by the Gauntlet I suppose. Well, I looked up “infinity gauntlet,” and one of the stones is apparently a “time stone” (forgive me if I’m reinventing the wheel on this one—apparently it was the McGuffin in Doctor Strange, which I haven’t seen). That suggests, to me at least, that he can see the future. He definitely can considering Doctor Strange looked into multiple different futures.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 10, 2019 23:29:55 GMT
Possible. We just don't know enough about the power given to him by the Gauntlet I suppose. Well, I looked up “infinity gauntlet,” and one of the stones is apparently a “time stone” (forgive me if I’m reinventing the wheel on this one—apparently it was the McGuffin in Doctor Strange, which I haven’t seen). That suggests, to me at least, that he can see the future. When he used the time stone to reverse time on Vision it did the whole spell shape thingy around his hand like in Doc Strange when he turned back time on an eaten apple. That would suggest that for him to see the possible futures he would have to do the spell through the gauntlet like Doc Strange did in IW to see the 14+ million different time lines. Not to say he didn't inbetween getting the time stone and showing up on earth. It's possible I guess. Or maybe the Gauntlet gives more innate ability to perceive possible time lines. So he doesn't have to do it like Doc did. He would only have to use the spell like abilities to effect time not see it. I could go either way on the interpretation. Both would make sense to me.
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