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Post by millar70 on Feb 11, 2019 5:44:27 GMT
What's worse than blowing a huge lead and losing at home to the Lakers???
Having Rajon Rondo make the last second game winning shot, which elicited maybe the weirdest crowd reaction I've ever heard. (It was a mix of shock, anger, and happiness at once, a sad cheer of some kind.)
What's worse than all that???
Well, how bout blowing an even bigger lead and losing at home to the friggin Clippers?!?!? That's right kids, the Celtics lost horrible consecutive home games to BOTH LA teams. Hey Now!!!
Can it get worse? Well, Kyrie is hurt, so there's that. And we've got Markus Morris going off after the game about how this team is selfish and absolutely no fun is being had by anyone. Good times!
And everytime I see a shot of our coach, he has that same dopey Alfred E Newman "what, me worry?" grin on his face, which is starting to annoy more than anything else.
This team seems like a team that should compete for a title, so why hasn't this started happening in the last 5 months?
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Feb 11, 2019 5:50:13 GMT
What's worse than blowing a huge lead and losing at home to the Lakers??? Having Rajon Rondo make the last second game winning shot, which elicited maybe the weirdest crowd reaction I've ever heard. (It was a mix of shock, anger, and happiness at once, a sad cheer of some kind.) What's worse than all that??? Well, how bout blowing an even bigger lead and losing at home to the friggin Clippers?!?!? That's right kids, the Celtics lost horrible consecutive home games to BOTH LA teams. Hey Now!!! Can it get worse? Well, Kyrie is hurt, so there's that. And we've got Markus Morris going off after the game about how this team is selfish and absolutely no fun is being had by anyone. Good times! And everytime I see a shot of our coach, he has that same dopey Alfred E Newman "what, me worry?" grin on his face, which is starting to annoy more than anything else. This team seems like a team that should compete for a title, so why hasn't this started happening in the last 5 months? kyrie's been suffering from the dribble flu for a long time. i get why butler brad likes him as butler brad likes running lots of fancy guard based 'plays' but that's not a way to build a strong nba team. i think butler brad goes back to the college game after this season. kyrie goes to somewhere else---france? he seems like a paris fan. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 11, 2019 13:18:14 GMT
We should've traded Kyrie when we had the chance. I'm not even kidding anymore. Look at how good this team was without him last year and look at them now. They won't win a title by getting rid of him but they sure as hell aren't going to win with him, I think that's obvious now. He's a great individual talent but he just isn't a leader. He doesn't make his teammates better.
As far as Stevens goes, he's great at drawing up plays but he doesn't seem to be a supreme motivator at the NBA level. I feel like the results of this season would be identical if we had no coach at all. Saturday night was the season in microcosm. In the first half we shot lights out and were up by 28 at one point. In the second half we couldn't put the ball in the ocean and lost by double figures. So the team shoots threes all night. When they make them, they win. When they don't, they lose. Not sure where the strategy is there, but I'm certain we can find a better one.
On top of all that is the ongoing disaster at the SF/SG position. Hayward, Brown, Tatum. None of them seem comfortable in whatever their role is, and they've all gotten in their own heads at this point. Hayward is timid because of his injury, Brown seems unmotivated and Tatum just takes terrible shots all night long. When the guy setting the tone for the team (Kyrie) is clearly one of the most selfish players in the league, you have a real recipe for disaster. I feel sorry for Horford, he didn't sign on for this. And somewhere in suburban Denver, Isaiah Thomas is laughing his head off.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 13:45:52 GMT
sbnation - celticsblog was pretty much in arms after the game.
couldn't believe all of the quotes from fans asking for Stephens head.
could his job be in jeopardy? (dependent on what they do come playoff time).
let's say they make an early exit in the 2nd Round?
I always regarded him and 'Pop' as 2 of the best coaches in the NBA.
What bigtime free agents do you guys have your eyes on? Doesn't sound like Kyrie wants to stay, doesn't sound like AD wants to go there. I don't envision KD going there or Kawhi.
I agree with above - they should have moved Kyrie at the deadline and got something for him. My biggest fears seem to have come true (but you guys are up there watching all the games so what do I know) - the return of Kyrie and Hayward messed with their chemistry a bit.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Feb 11, 2019 13:58:02 GMT
We should've traded Kyrie when we had the chance. I'm not even kidding anymore. Look at how good this team was without him last year and look at them now. They won't win a title by getting rid of him but they sure as hell aren't going to win with him, I think that's obvious now. He's a great individual talent but he just isn't a leader. He doesn't make his teammates better. As far as Stevens goes, he's great at drawing up plays but he doesn't seem to be a supreme motivator at the NBA level. I feel like the results of this season would be identical if we had no coach at all. Saturday night was the season in microcosm. In the first half we shot lights out and were up by 28 at one point. In the second half we couldn't put the ball in the ocean and lost by double figures. So the team shoots threes all night. When they make them, they win. When they don't, they lose. Not sure where the strategy is there, but I'm certain we can find a better one. On top of all that is the ongoing disaster at the SF/SG position. Hayward, Brown, Tatum. None of them seem comfortable in whatever their role is, and they've all gotten in their own heads at this point. Hayward is timid because of his injury, Brown seems unmotivated and Tatum just takes terrible shots all night long. When the guy setting the tone for the team (Kyrie) is clearly one of the most selfish players in the league, you have a real recipe for disaster. I feel sorry for Horford, he didn't sign on for this. And somewhere in suburban Denver, Isaiah Thomas is laughing his head off. didn't boston watch when kyrie was on the cavs? they played better in the finals with matthew 'deli cuts' dellavedova at point.  |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 11, 2019 14:31:56 GMT
sbnation - celticsblog was pretty much in arms after the game. couldn't believe all of the quotes from fans asking for Stephens head. could his job be in jeopardy? (dependent on what they do come playoff time).let's say they make an early exit in the 2nd Round? I always regarded him and 'Pop' as 2 of the best coaches in the NBA. What bigtime free agents do you guys have your eyes on? Doesn't sound like Kyrie wants to stay, doesn't sound like AD wants to go there. I don't envision KD going there or Kawhi. I agree with above - they should have moved Kyrie at the deadline and got something for him. My biggest fears seem to have come true (but you guys are up there watching all the games so what do I know) - the return of Kyrie and Hayward messed with their chemistry a bit. It'll come down to playoff performance. I don't want him fired. Look at what he did last year, it's clear the struggles aren't all his fault. But if he can't get this group to come together, maybe the C's need to look at finding someone who can. No idea who I'd want instead of him, though. I don't have a ton of faith in most coaches. As far as free agents go; Oddly I think that also comes down to playoff performance. If this team flames out and all the infighting continues, good luck holding on to Kyrie, much less convincing anyone else join this team. Maybe wholesale roster changes will be needed? But if they come together at the right time and make another deep run, it'll be that much easier to get more talent in f/a to make a run at a title. The C's staying quiet at the deadline tells me they're going for Davis in the offseason. We need his skillset but his attitude sucks. I have to admit I'm concerned about the future of this team. It's been 8 days since one of my teams won a title, how long am I going to have to wait?! |
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Post by millar70 on Feb 11, 2019 16:06:35 GMT
Good points being made all around here by Rey, but I'm not exactly sure what to do with this team. The main reason for that is that this team has the talent to put it all together and make a very deep playoff run.
Or this team is gonna flame out and be maybe the most disappointing team in Celtics history.
I didn't want them to trade Kyrie, and I still stand by that, if only to see how he plays in a C's uniform in May and June.
Only thing I disagree with Rey on is his assessment of Hayward,Brown,and Tatum. I feel all three have played better as the season has rolled on, and that's why I'm not ready to make huge changes. The future is still very bright for these guys.
They just need to find some flow when Kyrie is on the bench, which actually has happened occasionally, like first half of Laker game where 2nd unit was dominating, but hasn't happened consistently.
Not ready to give up hope yet, but starting to definitely pay more attention to Bruins, and waiting patiently for Red Sox.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 11, 2019 16:49:23 GMT
Good points being made all around here by Rey, but I'm not exactly sure what to do with this team. The main reason for that is that this team has the talent to put it all together and make a very deep playoff run. Or this team is gonna flame out and be maybe the most disappointing team in Celtics history. I didn't want them to trade Kyrie, and I still stand by that, if only to see how he plays in a C's uniform in May and June. Only thing I disagree with Rey on is his assessment of Hayward,Brown,and Tatum. I feel all three have played better as the season has rolled on, and that's why I'm not ready to make huge changes. The future is still very bright for these guys. They just need to find some flow when Kyrie is on the bench, which actually has happened occasionally, like first half of Laker game where 2nd unit was dominating, but hasn't happened consistently. Not ready to give up hope yet, but starting to definitely pay more attention to Bruins, and waiting patiently for Red Sox. Each of those guys has played well in spurts, they just can't find consistency. As players I still think all of them can turn it around, but I don't know if they can do it together. I'm not usually a panic button kind of guy, it's just that every time you think this team has bottomed out and turned it around, it somehow gets worse. We'll find out what they're made of come playoff time. |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Feb 11, 2019 19:53:45 GMT
Good points being made all around here by Rey, but I'm not exactly sure what to do with this team. The main reason for that is that this team has the talent to put it all together and make a very deep playoff run. Or this team is gonna flame out and be maybe the most disappointing team in Celtics history. I didn't want them to trade Kyrie, and I still stand by that, if only to see how he plays in a C's uniform in May and June. Only thing I disagree with Rey on is his assessment of Hayward,Brown,and Tatum. I feel all three have played better as the season has rolled on, and that's why I'm not ready to make huge changes. The future is still very bright for these guys. They just need to find some flow when Kyrie is on the bench, which actually has happened occasionally, like first half of Laker game where 2nd unit was dominating, but hasn't happened consistently. Not ready to give up hope yet, but starting to definitely pay more attention to Bruins, and waiting patiently for Red Sox. find some flow? that's good if you are talking about toilets. need a system in hoops; not plays, and start closer to the hoop. send butler brad this vid with red & larry and the guys: |
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Feb 24, 2019 3:39:02 GMT
What's worse than blowing a huge lead and losing at home to the Lakers??? Having Rajon Rondo make the last second game winning shot, which elicited maybe the weirdest crowd reaction I've ever heard. (It was a mix of shock, anger, and happiness at once, a sad cheer of some kind.) What's worse than all that??? Well, how bout blowing an even bigger lead and losing at home to the friggin Clippers?!?!? That's right kids, the Celtics lost horrible consecutive home games to BOTH LA teams. Hey Now!!! Can it get worse? Well, Kyrie is hurt, so there's that. And we've got Markus Morris going off after the game about how this team is selfish and absolutely no fun is being had by anyone. Good times! And everytime I see a shot of our coach, he has that same dopey Alfred E Newman "what, me worry?" grin on his face, which is starting to annoy more than anything else. This team seems like a team that should compete for a title, so why hasn't this started happening in the last 5 months? ainge saved his job by not drafting that fultz dud but he should have drafted the finnisher, Lauri Markkanen, instead of Tatum.
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Post by hehatesshe on Feb 24, 2019 4:13:24 GMT
My Bulls haven't been healthy all year, and still aren't, but they are a way better than the 27th best record in the league. Excited to see what this team with Markkanen, LaVine, Carter jr, and Porter jr can do next year, plus the addition of a top 5 pick (hopefully.)
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Post by millar70 on Feb 24, 2019 10:54:22 GMT
What's worse than blowing a huge lead and losing at home to the Lakers??? Having Rajon Rondo make the last second game winning shot, which elicited maybe the weirdest crowd reaction I've ever heard. (It was a mix of shock, anger, and happiness at once, a sad cheer of some kind.) What's worse than all that??? Well, how bout blowing an even bigger lead and losing at home to the friggin Clippers?!?!? That's right kids, the Celtics lost horrible consecutive home games to BOTH LA teams. Hey Now!!! Can it get worse? Well, Kyrie is hurt, so there's that. And we've got Markus Morris going off after the game about how this team is selfish and absolutely no fun is being had by anyone. Good times! And everytime I see a shot of our coach, he has that same dopey Alfred E Newman "what, me worry?" grin on his face, which is starting to annoy more than anything else. This team seems like a team that should compete for a title, so why hasn't this started happening in the last 5 months? ainge saved his job by not drafting that fultz dud but he should have drafted the finnisher, Lauri Markkanen, instead of Tatum. Markkanenn and Levine are first Bulls teammates to both score 35 in a game since Jordan and Pippen in 1996. Very cool stat. |
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