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Post by moviemouth on Feb 13, 2019 0:17:45 GMT
No. The first time I saw that monologue it was old on arrival. The first time I watched the movie, that monologue made me feel like I'd already seen it a thousand times. Tipping was never mandatory, and unless you're 100 or more years old, you didn't make the world where tipping is a thing because servers get paid less than minimum wage, you just live in it. I'd like to see people fairly compensated first thing in the morning but until then, don't not tip and call yourself enlightened. It's so tired. I don't think Tarantino thought this was a new idea. I think it is done to show what kind of a person Mr. Pink is and how the rest of the people at the table act towards him. I think the point of it in this specific movie is that all the other pieces of garbage at the table look at him funny for not wanting to tip, but have no problem robbing banks and killing people. |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 13, 2019 0:32:00 GMT
Anyone who doesn't tip should be banned from the world. I respectfully disagree with this. Mainly for the reasons outlined in the monologue: - It shouldn't be an obligation, it should be given by choice if the customer thinks it's deserved - Why is it reserved for some professions and not others, where do you draw the line - If staff are relying on it to supplement their income, that's part of a much larger problem, that shouldn't be the customer's obligation to fix For the record I do live outside the US where tipping probably isn't quite so ingrained in the culture |
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 13, 2019 0:43:56 GMT
I mean one where the waitress serves the customer. usually its either pre-made food or one of those self serve things.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2019 1:25:26 GMT
No. The first time I saw that monologue it was old on arrival. The first time I watched the movie, that monologue made me feel like I'd already seen it a thousand times. Tipping was never mandatory, and unless you're 100 or more years old, you didn't make the world where tipping is a thing because servers get paid less than minimum wage, you just live in it. I'd like to see people fairly compensated first thing in the morning but until then, don't not tip and call yourself enlightened. It's so tired. I don't think Tarantino thought this was a new idea. I think it is done to show what kind of a person Mr. Pink is and how the rest of the people at the table act towards him. I think the point of it in this specific movie is that all the other pieces of garbage at the table look at him funny for not wanting to tip, but have no problem robbing banks and killing people. I was only talking about the attitude. I should have said the attitude was old on arrival, not that it made the movie seem old on arrival. It's just not every day I see a refreshing take on why not to tip and his lines weren't about to be an exception but it got its job done in the movie. I just find the attitude annoying, but it's a great scene. |
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Feb 13, 2019 1:36:08 GMT
Anyone who doesn't tip should be banned from the world. I respectfully disagree with this. Mainly for the reasons outlined in the monologue: - It shouldn't be an obligation, it should be given by choice if the customer thinks it's deserved - Why is it reserved for some professions and not others, where do you draw the line - If staff are relying on it to supplement their income, that's part of a much larger problem, that shouldn't be the customer's obligation to fix For the record I do live outside the US where tipping probably isn't quite so ingrained in the culture You draw the line where the employee makes at least the minimum wage or not. The customer will take on the obligation anyway because if everyone at a bar makes at least minimum the extra cost will be added to the bill. |
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Post by Dramatic Look Gopher on Feb 13, 2019 1:51:46 GMT
As long as I get good, friendly service at a restaurant then I will gladly tip, anywhere from 15% to 20%. If the service is shitty then no tip for you! That's happened a couple of times.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 13, 2019 2:01:15 GMT
I respectfully disagree with this. Mainly for the reasons outlined in the monologue: - It shouldn't be an obligation, it should be given by choice if the customer thinks it's deserved - Why is it reserved for some professions and not others, where do you draw the line - If staff are relying on it to supplement their income, that's part of a much larger problem, that shouldn't be the customer's obligation to fix For the record I do live outside the US where tipping probably isn't quite so ingrained in the culture The customer will take on the obligation anyway because if everyone at a bar makes at least minimum the extra cost will be added to the bill. And that I'm happy to do, if that's the listed cost. But the whole "well this is how much it costs, but we expect you to pay more because I don't pay my employees enough". |
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Post by Vits on Feb 13, 2019 10:59:16 GMT
Tipping isn't a universal custom where I live. For the record I do live outside the US where tipping probably isn't quite so ingrained in the culture Where do you live? Gee, don't be too generous.  How much should it be instead? |
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Feb 13, 2019 11:22:22 GMT
For the record I do live outside the US where tipping probably isn't quite so ingrained in the culture Where do you live?  |
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Post by Winter_King on Feb 13, 2019 11:23:31 GMT
Where I live, tipping is not customary. If I was in the States I would probably do so but I have to say I agree with Mr. Pink.
If I'm going to a restaurant, I shouldn't have to give something extra to the waiter/waitress. I'm expecting that the price of the meal already covers that service. If he/she is not getting enough money, that's because the owner is not paying their employers properly.
But hey might go over 12% if she takes me in the back.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Feb 14, 2019 0:30:59 GMT
Tipping isn't a universal custom where I live. For the record I do live outside the US where tipping probably isn't quite so ingrained in the culture Where do you live? Ireland. |
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Post by petrolino on Feb 16, 2019 1:23:40 GMT
Don't agree at all. Reprehensible behaviour and uncatholic.
"Waitressing is the number one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country."
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Post by permutojoe on Feb 16, 2019 1:52:35 GMT
No. He was obviously wrong and Tarantino painted him as an idiot for thinking this.
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Post by theravenking on Feb 16, 2019 11:11:51 GMT
It really depends on the country. I know there are some countries where tipping is considered offensive. I visited Armenia last summer and people there weren’t used to tips. They were really surprised when I gave them something extra.
But then I went on a Nile cruise in Egypt this winter and there you had to give a tip. It was collected from each guest (about 25 Euros per person for a week), they said they would divide it equally among the staff.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 13:22:11 GMT
"I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job."
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Feb 16, 2019 13:48:27 GMT
I always tip, at least 20% Why 20%? Who decided that 15% wasn't enough anymore? IT IS A FUCKING PERCENTAGE! |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Feb 16, 2019 13:52:45 GMT
I positively hate the very concept of tipping but it is what it is and I follow the unwritten rules.
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Post by louise on Feb 16, 2019 14:55:06 GMT
I always tip if I eat out, it seems mean not to, unless for some reason the service is very bad. Always tip taxi drivers also, and hairdressers.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Feb 16, 2019 15:35:38 GMT
Korean friend of mine, his brother asked why a Chinese restaurant rounded up $0.43 cents to 0.45 when it was debit not cash (Canada being civilized axed pennies from circulation years ago now). They told him to fcuk off & leave.
I was told his brother left a tip leaving .44 cents in the amount because apparently the number 4 sounds like a word for death in Chinese?
lols if you see Korea & China go to war, you can root it from some $0.02 cents first strike action.
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Post by kingkoopa on Feb 17, 2019 6:28:28 GMT
It ought to be said that this is a cultural thing not exclusive to all nations.
I've been in a few countries that don't regard tipping in the same way. It can even be insulting in some instances. An honest "thank you" is standard for me in that department. Appreciation of good service is universal even if tipping customs vary.
I'm not totally in line with tipping being "expected." Totally in line with the fact that that's just the way we do it in the US. Good service always gets a little action from me. I'm old as the crypt-keeper now, but I started my journey in the workforce as a line cook. It's hard work. Food service as a whole is a hard job in that you need to slap on a smile at the drop of a hat.
In another job I did very excruciating manual labor. Never had to smile or be nice to anyone who wasn't my boss. People in service jobs have to cross that line, and it is difficult. Beyond that, it takes a very certain kind of patience and skill.
I do kind of get the Mr. Pink angle. I'm of the opinion that tips would be a little more generous if they weren't compulsory. Could just be me. A good bartender is like a good barber. A skill that should be appreciated if done well. A properly poured beer is always worth at least an extra buck. Makes a big difference in how much these workers can bring home. Takes (proportionately) a little to show such workers that their service is appreciated. Means a lot more than its dollar value in many cases.
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