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Post by Marv on Feb 13, 2019 10:24:29 GMT
Is he considered a choke artist being that he’s 3-7 in NBA Finals?
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Post by Aj_June on Feb 13, 2019 10:34:29 GMT
Is he considered a choke artist being that he’s 3-6 in NBA Finals? He is 3-5 I guess.
Not at all. He has gone against much much superior teams in 4 of the 8 finals (he lost 3 against that superior team). One final that he lost against Spurs was not a choke either. Only 1 final he lost was against not so special team (Dallas). He isn't a choke artist at all. If one believes so then that person doesn't get the meaning of the word choke.
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Post by Marv on Feb 13, 2019 10:37:26 GMT
Is he considered a choke artist being that he’s 3-6 in NBA Finals? He is 3-5 I guess.
Not at all. He has gone against much much superior teams in 4 of the 8 finals (he lost 3 against that superior team). One final that he lost against Spurs was not a choke either. Only 1 final he lost was against not so special team (Dallas). He isn't a choke artist at all. If one believes so then that person doesn't get the meaning of the word choke.
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Post by Aj_June on Feb 13, 2019 10:40:50 GMT
He is 3-5 I guess.
Not at all. He has gone against much much superior teams in 4 of the 8 finals (he lost 3 against that superior team). One final that he lost against Spurs was not a choke either. Only 1 final he lost was against not so special team (Dallas). He isn't a choke artist at all. If one believes so then that person doesn't get the meaning of the word choke.
Corrected. No, he is 3-6. I forgot the 2007 one because I didn't see that. But that was also a much superior team to his Cavs. Sorry you have to edit again.  |
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Post by Marv on Feb 13, 2019 10:43:24 GMT
No, he is 3-6. I forgot the 2007 one because I didn't see that. But that was also a much superior team to his Cavs. Sorry you have to edit again. You know what...I’m adding one now.  |
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Post by Aj_June on Feb 13, 2019 10:44:51 GMT
No, he is 3-6. I forgot the 2007 one because I didn't see that. But that was also a much superior team to his Cavs. Sorry you have to edit again. You know what...I’m adding one now. To compensate for my erroneous post I present to you this stats:
LeBron has seldom had much of a chance in the Finals
Pre-series odds (via Elo ratings) for LeBron James’s teams in the NBA Finals
Year Team Opponent Pre-Finals W% Finals Game Score/G Won Finals?
2007 CLE SAS 27.5% 10.6
2011 MIA DAL 55.9 13.7
2012 MIA OKC 30.8 23.6 ✓
2013 MIA SAS 67.4 22.5 ✓
2014 MIA SAS 20.9 22.5
2015 CLE GSW 21.4 24.6
2016 CLE GSW 27.4 26.5 ✓
2017 CLE GSW 9.6 29.6
2018 CLE GSW 19.6 28.3
So as you can see only in 1 of his finals (2013 one) his team was thought to be real favs to win by experts. 6 times his team went to finals as the underdogs. In 2011 his team was a slight favourite.
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