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Post by lightningcat on Feb 13, 2019 19:53:41 GMT
in the 50s and early 60s you had films like Attack of the 50 Foot Woman. The Amazing Colossal Man. The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms. etc. but then came the 70s and 80s Slasher Craze what happened!
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Post by cwsims on Feb 13, 2019 20:00:37 GMT
Its simple Hitchcock's Psycho & Romeros Night Of The Living Dead both sent a simple message to Hollywood and that message was "Make Horror Films More Bloody!" films with the title "Invasion of the Mole People" and "The Beast That ate New York" weren't going to cut it anymore if you were a director and your horror film didn't have "Blood & Guts" it wasn't going to last long in theatres or ever get off the shelf at the local video store on a Friday night plus other than showing smashed cars and crumbled towns and buildings there wasn't much they could add to those Giant Monster movies in terms of blood & guts
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 13, 2019 20:07:50 GMT
in the 50s and early 60s you had films like Attack of the 50 Foot Woman. The Amazing Colossal Man. The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms. etc. but then came the 70s and 80s Slasher Craze what happened! I guess you could argue that Japan kept making them, but yeah they clearly fell out of favor in Hollywood.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 13, 2019 20:25:36 GMT
They evolved into "Jaws" "Orca" "Grizzly" "Tentacles" etc etc etc.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 13, 2019 20:28:10 GMT
The indie market died.
The Majors were never very good with fantasy.
RKO (often called a mini major) did King Kong, but the other studios did not try to imitate it.
Warner Bros and Universal did some monster movies in the 50s but seemed to do so reluctantly. Harryhausen did his other 1950s films with Columbia which was considered a former poverty row studio (and from what I read, they did not like his films--Schneer was married to a Columbia executive's relation).
50 Foot Woman and Colossal Man were non Major films. Many others of the period-Giant Gila Monster, Giant Behemoth, were too. Godzilla was Toho.
Slasher films are cheaper, don't require period costume or fancy effects. I also think there is a disdain for more exaggerated fantasy--thus we have all these sharktopus vs crocopiranha type things, with a joking attitude.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 0:28:36 GMT
in the 50s and early 60s you had films like Attack of the 50 Foot Woman. The Amazing Colossal Man. The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms. etc. but then came the 70s and 80s Slasher Craze what happened! love these flicks.
below is definitely worth a watch if you love/miss those old school 1950s monster movies
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Feb 14, 2019 19:55:48 GMT
King Kong (1976) made a comeback, but not a big enough of one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 2:23:38 GMT
King Kong (1976) made a comeback, but not a big enough of one. excuse me?
he's going to beat the piss out of that giant japenese lizard next year.................
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 15, 2019 4:20:24 GMT
King Kong (1976) made a comeback, but not a big enough of one. excuse me?
he's going to beat the piss out of that giant jap next year.................
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 15, 2019 4:21:29 GMT
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 15, 2019 5:38:31 GMT
They didn't have the SFX in the 70s, and as King Kong proved in '76, people just weren't buying the guy in the monster suit anymore.
In '81, Dragonslayer (with the help of Disney) put a realistic looking giant monster on the screen
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Post by sostie on Feb 15, 2019 14:36:14 GMT
In the 70s and 80s they became abnormally large instead of giant...White Buffalo, Jaws, Razorback, Alligator (there were exceptions...Night Of The Lepus, Digby The Biggest Dog In The World)
Then in the 90s and 00s they got big again...Eight Legged Freaks, Tremors, Mimic, Lake Placid, Deep Rising, and all them so bad they are bad SCifi channel mega shark, snake etc films.
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Feb 15, 2019 16:55:51 GMT
King Kong (1976) made a comeback, but not a big enough of one. excuse me?
he's going to beat the piss out of that giant japenese lizard next year.................
I meant 70's Kong, not the more recent one. Interested to see this new match-up.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 18:43:28 GMT
It's a shame this genre is dead. Modern directors really have no clue how to make these as evident by the last Godzilla movie.
Jurassic Park was the last true old fashioned giant monster movie.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Feb 15, 2019 18:55:57 GMT
It's a shame this genre is dead. Modern directors really have no clue how to make these as evident by the last Godzilla movie. Jurassic Park was the last true old fashioned giant monster movie. Please watch these ( if you haven't already ) The Host (2006) Cloverfield (2008) Pacific Rim (2013) Pacific Rim 2 (2018) Rampage (2018)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 19:07:17 GMT
It's a shame this genre is dead. Modern directors really have no clue how to make these as evident by the last Godzilla movie. Jurassic Park was the last true old fashioned giant monster movie. Please watch these ( if you haven't already ) The Host (2006) Cloverfield (2008) Pacific Rim (2013) Pacific Rim 2 (2018) Rampage (2018) Never seen them.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Feb 15, 2019 20:47:27 GMT
It's a shame this genre is dead. Modern directors really have no clue how to make these as evident by the last Godzilla movie. Jurassic Park was the last true old fashioned giant monster movie. What about King Kong (2005)?
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 15, 2019 21:01:17 GMT
For 1976, Kong's costume was state of the art. The facial expressions were revolutionary and it deserved an Oscar (although people assumed it was for the 40 foot robot version which didn't really work and was only in the film for a few seconds).
It's a shrinking of imagination we have now. Giant ape giant shark giant robots giant mutants inspired by japanese films
As I said before, movies today are like versions of Beach Boys songs being performed by hedge fund managers for an audience in Beijing. Just not the same as the old ones.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 22:13:22 GMT
It's a shame this genre is dead. Modern directors really have no clue how to make these as evident by the last Godzilla movie. Jurassic Park was the last true old fashioned giant monster movie. What about King Kong (2005)? It's... Not bad. Closer to the classics than anything else in the genre for the past twenty years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 22:25:04 GMT
It's a shame this genre is dead. Modern directors really have no clue how to make these as evident by the last Godzilla movie. Jurassic Park was the last true old fashioned giant monster movie. Please watch these ( if you haven't already ) The Host (2006) Cloverfield (2008) Pacific Rim (2013) Pacific Rim 2 (2018) Rampage (2018) The Host is one of only 3 movies that I've ever thrown out (have a pretty extensive collection).
Pretty much a 'Blind Buy'.
The DVD art stated - 'The Next JAWS!' - nothing could have been further from the truth
Was like a badly dubbed Godzilla movie. But the 'monster' was 1/1,000,000th of the size.
The other two stinkers which were smelling up my iconic DVD collection which went right into the dumpster:
Mulholland Drive Napolean Dynamite
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