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Post by snsurone on Feb 16, 2019 16:53:02 GMT
I confess that it was fairly recently that certain sound effects were used to simulate such things as gun shots, explosions, and breaking glass.
It's no surprise that the sounds of guns and bombs were dubbed, otherwise there would be quite a number of deaf actors, LOL.
And windows in movies and TV shows were actually clear sugar candy (straight out of "Hansel and Gretel"), with the sound also dubbed in.
As a small child, I found the sight and sound of smashing glass and china to be extremely distressing. Might be due to some traumatic effect in infancy that was suppressed in my subconscious; I'll never really know.
As for background music, it's invaluable for setting the moods for certain scenes on both films and TV. In fact, two of my all time favorite movies, GWTW and BEN HUR, made brilliant use of background scores. However, most B films made little, if any, use of either music or sound effects. Case in point: TARZAN AND HIS MATE--IMO, the very best Tarzan movie. But it was a B movie, and there was no background music at all except during the opening and closing credits. One has to wonder if the picture might have been better with a score, especially during that "notorious" nude swimming scene (which I found quite boring).
What do my fellow poster think about this?
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Post by divtal on Feb 16, 2019 18:09:16 GMT
One that leaps to mind, immediately is In The Heat of the Night (the title triggered the thought). I remember thinking that you could almost hear the heat, in some scenes. I suppose it was a blend of the sound of crickets/other insects, and maybe even the a little silence mixed in, to suggest the absence of any breeze.
I haven't seen it since it was in the theaters. Your post makes me want to see it, again, and pay closer attention. Good topic.
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Post by mattgarth on Feb 16, 2019 19:13:30 GMT
One that leaps to mind, immediately is In The Heat of the Night (the title triggered the thought). I remember thinking that you could almost hear the heat, in some scenes. I suppose it was a blend of the sound of crickets/other insects, and maybe even the a little silence mixed in, to suggest the absence of any breeze. I haven't seen it since it was in the theaters. Your post makes me want to see it, again, and pay closer attention. Good topic. Interesting point made here. Although in one nighttime scene outside the cafe, you can see the cold breath of the actors!
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Post by teleadm on Feb 16, 2019 19:22:47 GMT
I agree with OP that Tarzan and His Mate is the best of the old MGM Tarzan movies, but according to "The MGM Story" those were not B-movies, they indeed became B-movies later and by the time they did Tarzan's New York Adventure they were certainly down in B-Movie terretory. In the beginning they were A-movies, and to create a thrill ,a new Tarzan MGM movie was only supposed to premier every other year, but with the death of Thalberg I guess they re-thought about the whole series and relocated it into the B-movies department.
I recently watched Close Encounters of a Third Kind,and it got an unofficial Oscar for Sound Editing, I thought that was interesting since nowdays there is an official Oscar for Sound Editing.
Having seen many so called spaggethi westerns, there was no sound editing there! LOL
Hope I didn't distract too much from the subject!
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Post by london777 on Feb 17, 2019 4:43:36 GMT
90% of movies have 90% too much background music.
Firstly, I do not like being told how I should feel. If the director/writers/actors cannot get their message over without music then they have not done their job.
Secondly, the music often obscures the dialog or natural sound effects.
The gold standard for me are the movies of Ingmar Bergman. He is extremely sparing with music. Polanski is careful with it too.
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Post by london777 on Feb 22, 2019 3:59:38 GMT
90% of movies have 90% too much background music. Just watched Todo sobre mi madre (1999) dir: Pedro Almodóvar for the third time. This wonderful film must be one of the 10% because I do not see how it could work without the score, despite this being almost incessant. As the central character, played by Cecilia Roth explains, "A Streetcar Named Desire" is the leitmotiv of her life and it is intertwined with the plot of this movie, though the production of which we see repeated excepts does not look very convincing to me. 
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