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Post by darkpast on Feb 18, 2019 16:53:45 GMT
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 18, 2019 16:57:26 GMT
Doesn't come as a surprise, the writing was on the wall since Daredevil and Luke Cage were cancelled.
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Post by darkpast on Feb 18, 2019 17:14:41 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 18, 2019 17:19:29 GMT
The sooner the better as Marvel can't use any of the characters until two years after their last Netflix appearance.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 18, 2019 17:47:14 GMT
It had never been done before. Four separate television series We called them The Defenders. Actually, it had been done before. It's called the Arrowverse and the 4 separate TV series are Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow. |
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 18, 2019 17:49:57 GMT
It seems like it has nothing to do with quality or viewership (except for maybe The Punisher) and entirely to do with Disney making their own streaming service soon and the fact that they now own Hulu.
I can’t help but wonder if it was Netflix that decided they didn’t want any Disney owned characters on their service or if Disney somehow had a say in their cancellations.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 18, 2019 18:17:45 GMT
It had never been done before. Four separate television series We called them The Defenders. Actually, it had been done before. It's called the Arrowverse and the 4 separate TV series are Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow. That’s mostly accurate. They were the first ones to accomplish it with the crossover event ‘Invasion!’ in November 2016. The Defenders was released in 2017. However, the Netflix Marvel shows were announced to be leading up to The Defenders in 2013, years before the Arrowverse crossover and a year before the The Flash even premiered. It was even announced a month before Barry Allen appeared on Arrow. I’d argue that Marvel’s Netflix plans played a role in The CWs decision to create the Arrowverse and do crossovers. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 18, 2019 18:28:18 GMT
Actually, it had been done before. It's called the Arrowverse and the 4 separate TV series are Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow. I’d argue that Marvel’s Netflix plans played a role in The CWs decision to create the Arrowverse and do crossovers. Not at all. There had already been crossovers for superhero TV shows since Batman and The Green Hornet in the 1960s and Shazam! and Isis in the 1970s. The Arrowverse was just the 1st to do a crossover with as many as 4 separate superhero TV shows. |
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Post by politicidal on Feb 18, 2019 20:42:31 GMT
Guess Moon Knight is a no-go?
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Feb 18, 2019 22:04:30 GMT
I’d argue that Marvel’s Netflix plans played a role in The CWs decision to create the Arrowverse and do crossovers. Not at all. There had already been crossovers for superhero TV shows since Batman and The Green Hornet in the 1960s and Shazam! and Isis in the 1970s. The Arrowverse was just the 1st to do a crossover with as many as 4 separate superhero TV shows. Oh yes I'm aware of Batman and Green Hornet, that's awesome about Shazam! and Isis though. But I was referring to the specific comment about "4 separate television series" having never been done before. |
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 18, 2019 22:42:59 GMT
The boss over at Hulu expressed interest in taking over the Marvel Netflix shows.
Hopefully it happens!
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 18, 2019 23:17:27 GMT
The boss over at Hulu expressed interest in taking over the Marvel Netflix shows. Hopefully it happens! Would make the most sense. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Feb 18, 2019 23:17:50 GMT
Guess Moon Knight is a no-go? Hulu. |
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Post by dazz on Feb 18, 2019 23:36:14 GMT
It had never been done before. Four separate television series We called them The Defenders. Actually, it had been done before. It's called the Arrowverse and the 4 separate TV series are Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow. Well done on your usual bullshit cut and paste to try and pretend you have a point, the significance of the Netflix shows was they were 4 independently created shows which by design came together to create a special crossover series, 4 entirely separate productions worked together to set up for a 5th series, the Arrowverse however was created by the same two guys for all shows and a 3rd for two the shows, they didn't come together for a series which they built to rather than they haphazardly slapped an "Invasion" crossover event, with no build up or meaningful pay off.
As for the older crossovers Batman also crossed over with Scooby Doo to tell you how important and seriously those crossovers were taken, this was a major undertaking years in the making, not some hodgepodge piece of shit crossover like we usually get, now go sit in the corner and lick paste like a good little mutant.
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Post by dazz on Feb 18, 2019 23:37:56 GMT
Guess Moon Knight is a no-go? Hulu. Good question just who exactly is Lou?  |
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 19, 2019 0:06:46 GMT
Actually, it had been done before. It's called the Arrowverse and the 4 separate TV series are Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, and Legends of Tomorrow. Well done on your usual bullshit cut and paste to try and pretend you have a point, the significance of the Netflix shows was they were 4 independently created shows which by design came together to create a special crossover series, 4 entirely separate productions worked together to set up for a 5th series, the Arrowverse however was created by the same two guys for all shows and a 3rd for two the shows, they didn't come together for a series which they built to rather than they haphazardly slapped an "Invasion" crossover event, with no build up or meaningful pay off.
1st, it wasn't 4 entirely separate productions. All 4 shows are produced under the same production company - Marvel Studios. 2nd, The Defenders was a show that was slapped together haphazardly without any meaningful payoff. 3rd, none of the bullshit you just posted changes the fact that it had been done before - 4 shows coming together to produce a crossover. The only difference is that the DC TV shows were able to do a good story in just 3 or 4 episodes and didn't waste the audience's time with about 13 hours of filler episodes that were had no meaningful payoff. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 19, 2019 6:16:22 GMT
Well done on your usual bullshit cut and paste to try and pretend you have a point, the significance of the Netflix shows was they were 4 independently created shows which by design came together to create a special crossover series, 4 entirely separate productions worked together to set up for a 5th series, the Arrowverse however was created by the same two guys for all shows and a 3rd for two the shows, they didn't come together for a series which they built to rather than they haphazardly slapped an "Invasion" crossover event, with no build up or meaningful pay off.
1st, it wasn't 4 entirely separate productions. All 4 shows are produced under the same production company - Marvel Studios. 2nd, The Defenders was a show that was slapped together haphazardly without any meaningful payoff. 3rd, none of the bullshit you just posted changes the fact that it had been done before - 4 shows coming together to produce a crossover. The only difference is that the DC TV shows were able to do a good story in just 3 or 4 episodes and didn't waste the audience's time with about 13 hours of filler episodes that were had no meaningful payoff. This is The End, beautiful friend... |
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Post by DSDSquared on Feb 19, 2019 12:56:00 GMT
Well done on your usual bullshit cut and paste to try and pretend you have a point, the significance of the Netflix shows was they were 4 independently created shows which by design came together to create a special crossover series, 4 entirely separate productions worked together to set up for a 5th series, the Arrowverse however was created by the same two guys for all shows and a 3rd for two the shows, they didn't come together for a series which they built to rather than they haphazardly slapped an "Invasion" crossover event, with no build up or meaningful pay off.
1st, it wasn't 4 entirely separate productions. All 4 shows are produced under the same production company - Marvel Studios. 2nd, The Defenders was a show that was slapped together haphazardly without any meaningful payoff. 3rd, none of the bullshit you just posted changes the fact that it had been done before - 4 shows coming together to produce a crossover. The only difference is that the DC TV shows were able to do a good story in just 3 or 4 episodes and didn't waste the audience's time with about 13 hours of filler episodes that were had no meaningful payoff. Not one of those CW Arrowverse shows are as good as Daredevil or The Punisher. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 19, 2019 12:58:13 GMT
This is The End, beautiful friend... This song was literally my final post on the old IMDb boards. RIP. |
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Post by dazz on Feb 19, 2019 13:34:26 GMT
Well done on your usual bullshit cut and paste to try and pretend you have a point, the significance of the Netflix shows was they were 4 independently created shows which by design came together to create a special crossover series, 4 entirely separate productions worked together to set up for a 5th series, the Arrowverse however was created by the same two guys for all shows and a 3rd for two the shows, they didn't come together for a series which they built to rather than they haphazardly slapped an "Invasion" crossover event, with no build up or meaningful pay off.
1st, it wasn't 4 entirely separate productions. All 4 shows are produced under the same production company - Marvel Studios. 2nd, The Defenders was a show that was slapped together haphazardly without any meaningful payoff. 3rd, none of the bullshit you just posted changes the fact that it had been done before - 4 shows coming together to produce a crossover. The only difference is that the DC TV shows were able to do a good story in just 3 or 4 episodes and didn't waste the audience's time with about 13 hours of filler episodes that were had no meaningful payoff. You mean minus the 3 seasons of build up to The Hand's master plan, the death and resurrection of Elektra, the established connection with The Hand & The Iron Fist, The Hands need for Iron Fist to help them, the set up of how Matt gets tied to Jessica by his best friend working for the company and woman who hires/owes Jessica, which leads to Matt being her Lawyer, or how Roasrio Dawson was woven through all 4 heroes lives, that Jessica & Luke have a history, or how Matt's "death" ties into multiple shows next season significantly, Misty losing her arm is carried over as an important issue, Colleen's desire to move past her past, or how the destruction of The Hand has left a power vacuum in crime through NY.
compared to Invasion which had no set up at all, no pay off at all, several of the potential stories were either retconned, ignored or just brush aside, the one thing that "paid off" was Stein having a kid, they didn't even use that time to figure shit out like Barry helping the Legends figuring out who the mystery speedster was, it was a random one off story that just featured crossover characters, which also seeing how each shows episode revolved more around that shows cast shows how unbalanced they were.
You fucking gooseberry.
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