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Post by mandragora on Apr 23, 2017 14:25:28 GMT
Freiburg 1-0 Leverkusen at HT.
Unbelievable the shitshow Leverkusen have turned into this season.
Looks like we'll see Freiburg in Europa League next season, and Leverkusen better turn it around soon, or else they might end up playing relegation playoffs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 15:30:55 GMT
Interim Tayfun 'Bob Bradley' Korkut is working out well isn't he?
There were rumours that TSV 1860 Munich were sounding out Marco Silva before he headed to Hull City. Unaware if he speaks any German, but suspect the Bantams will do well to keep him there beyond the end of his end of season contract.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 23, 2017 22:03:11 GMT
Leipzig only one point...at least the Bundesliga is playing for us.
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Post by mandragora on Apr 26, 2017 17:59:42 GMT
DFB cup semifinal: Bayern vs Dortmund.
Coman and Sanches not in the Bayern squad.
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Post by mandragora on Apr 26, 2017 19:09:45 GMT
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Post by mandragora on Apr 26, 2017 20:18:09 GMT
2-3 in the meantime. Another blunder by Philipp, who doesn't have his best day.
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Post by mandragora on Apr 26, 2017 20:40:20 GMT
Dortmund win. Bayern out.
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Post by MrFurious on Apr 26, 2017 20:41:11 GMT
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Post by mandragora on Apr 26, 2017 22:30:45 GMT
Have to say I feel sorry for Lahm that his last season ends like this (seemed on the verge of tears in the post match interview), but after all this Dortmund team has been through in the last weeks - bomb attack, having had to play a CL knockout game less than 24 hours later, being screwed over by the ref (two irregular goals for Monaco) - I don't know how anyone couldn't be happy for them.
Also have to say that Tuchel has rightfully earned some serious respect during these weeks. The way he guided the team through this time and how he communicated his and the team's feelings in the public deserves nothing but praise.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 27, 2017 14:27:44 GMT
I was rooting for the Eintracht even before we got trashed.
A few years ago, it was a humiliation like this - at least in the felt extent - that triggert changes which formed an European Juggernaut. But can Hoeneß and Co. find an answer to the current situation? When I think of Rummenigge, I fear I fear the answer is no.
Maybe we even lack a Sammer.
Every captain needs a seargant, a drill instructor.
It will need tons of money to replace the aging stars like Robben and Ribery, to replace those who failed us: Coman, Costa and Co., and to keep the likes of Thiago.
But Hoeneß got this "bold" idea to develop players from the own youth - saving money and doing something for the greater good of the Germn football. Years idea he had a similar idiotic idea which made him sign talents from South America in order to turn them into stars in order to sell them with huge profit (like wine). This entire "business idea" became a desaster and he decided to gamble with stocks...what also ended up in a desaster - for him.
And now they want to choose the cheap and easy route again...
Signing top players by paying the actual market prices is generally considered a madness in Germany, and Rummenigge and Hoeneß are proud to be reasonable people who refuse to do it and never tired to tell you.
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Post by mandragora on Apr 27, 2017 14:45:00 GMT
Instead you've paid 35 million plus bonus payments for a 19 year old surprise bag who doesn't make the squad for important games, and plays like a 3rd division player in the minutes he gets.
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Post by WullieFort on Apr 27, 2017 15:26:28 GMT
Is Carlo A under pressure to quit ?
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 27, 2017 17:56:48 GMT
Instead you've paid 35 million plus bonus payments for a 19 year old surprise bag who doesn't make the squad for important games, and plays like a 3rd division player in the minutes he gets. A Breno deluxe case. They thought they get a top class players for half of the actual market value of such a player. If you want a Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo, Kroos etc.pp., top players in their prime, you will have to pay tons of money. If you don't, you don't get them. You can be lucky and have some in your own youth academyy, some bought talent really prove their class, you get some elderly stars who can still make the difference...to sign really 3 to four 4 players who will bring the ship back on course...you'll have to play. And for teh next season you have ManU on the rise with a lot of money, ManCity that is almost desperate and a Guardiola who plans to spend a lot. Barca in in a crisis and will reach out for new signing (Thiago could be one of their targets...and with Bayern in decline...) Hoeneß and Rummenigge have to go really, really deep in the pockets of the FCB, or the FCB will go in a phase of slow decline. Well, I guess we both now that their "Krämerseele" won't make them spend the money needed. Here and there some millions for a talent or a seasoned but rather mediocre players (the Sebastian Rode-typos), but no international top tier players close to 80 million or more. I think I'll spend much more time with my Lego models in the future.
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Post by mandragora on Apr 27, 2017 18:10:15 GMT
I really don't think Reschke is as good as some people hype him up to be. The South America transfers in Leverkusen were done by Boldt.
There is still value in the market. Dortmund bought Dembele for 15 million. Leipzig brought Keita for the same kind of money. Kimmich cost 8.5 million, Forsberg cost 3.7 million, Weigl cost 2.5 million. You just have to find them. Instead of buying Costa for 30 million or God forbid Sanches for 35+.
But you have a point. De Bruyne, Sane, Gündogan, three players Bayern let slip because of stinginess. Two of them are even German.
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Post by Pangolin on Apr 28, 2017 2:43:16 GMT
The way people talk about the current season sounds as if Bayern would be 14 points behind Borussia Dortmund and not vice versa. 
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 28, 2017 5:12:07 GMT
Is Carlo A under pressure to quit ? Nö, why should he? If Vidal had scored the penalty, and Bayern went with a 2:0 into the half time break, it would have been a completely different game. At first, we were also in trouble against Arsenal - both times -, but with the first goals we started to steam roll them. Well, in the second leg it was also Vidal who brought us almost single handed down. The penalty is forgiveable, his reckless game after his early card is not - imho. But our squad is beyond its prime. When we face other teams in the Bundesliga by now, it is us who are the older team. So, let us see what players he wnats to sign (and what Hoeneß and Co. allow him). Back in the day Guordiola wanted Neymar, but Hoeneß wanted Götze... The only thing that is really a bit odd it the fact that he didn't take off Vidal after he got such an early yellow card in the second leg. We are fat and old cats now...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 9:07:22 GMT
The expectation at Bayern year on year currently is winning the treble, anything less and it's seen as unsatisfactory.
Most puzzling is the rationing of putting their 'unsatisfactory' season on the shoulders of one expensive summer transfer recruit, who is still only 19 and having trouble adjusting to new surroundings and obviously lacking in confidence from continually being on the bench.
An ageing squad in decline, a squad bereft of having anyone suitable to share the heavy workload with their only recognised striker Lewandowski, considering Thomas Muller's morphing into an even inferior version of a latter day Wayne Rooney continues to defy logic and the lack of tactical variation from the manager in important games, contribute far bigger issues than the mismanagement of one raw 19 year old.
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Post by mandragora on Apr 28, 2017 9:15:00 GMT
No one is expecting a treble each year, and no one is putting all the blame on Sanches. bluerisk was talking about an ageing squad and I was talking about poor squad planning. Take your nationalist Portuguese glasses off, and you'll realize that Sanches has been nothing but a disappointment (as has Costa been for 1 1/2 seasons, albeit to a lesser extent).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 9:46:57 GMT
Your not disagreeing that the other issues are of far greater importance than the mismanagement of a still raw 19 year old, voted young player of the tournament at Euro 2016. Send him back to SL Benfica, where his presence will be greatly appreciated and managed far better than his first foray out of his homeland.
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Post by mandragora on Apr 28, 2017 9:59:33 GMT
I'd send him back in an instance, but that's not my decision. I get it that he's Portugal's golden boy, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been a failure at his new club. He has trouble adjusting? Well, isn't that surprising given he doesn't speak either German or English and reportedly can't be bothered to learn, either. What did he expect coming to Germany, everyone speaking Portuguese? There are other 19 y/o in the Bundesliga who came here not speaking the language, and they still don't look like a 3rd division player every time they step on the pitch. The club provides a language teacher for the players and for Sanches they even hired a Portuguese guy to help him settle in. Not every young foreign player has that luxury. But every player has to put in a bit of effort himself if he's gonna make it at a top club. Maybe all the awards and hype went to his head and he thought that rule doesn't apply to him. Better to get back to the Benfica comfort zone then.
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