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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 20, 2019 13:46:59 GMT
So it's weird to see the complaint towards anything dealing in Social Justice.
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Post by hobowar on Feb 20, 2019 14:30:29 GMT
The words "social justice warrior" sound good on paper, but has picked up a lot of negative connotations over the years. It's kinda like feminism in that regard. A lot of people associate all sjw's with just hating white men.
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Post by NormanClature on Feb 20, 2019 14:58:41 GMT
Instead of making a blanket statement, why not directly address the things Brie Larson has said and done? Explain to people why their complaints are invalid.
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Post by faustus5 on Feb 20, 2019 15:04:17 GMT
Instead of making a blanket statement, why not directly address the things Brie Larson has said and done? Explain to people why their complaints are invalid. I think the complainers first need to make a case that she ever said anything inappropriate in the first place, first by quoting her in her own words giving proper context, then explaining why what she said was wrong. If this has ever happened I missed the posts where it did.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 20, 2019 15:11:01 GMT
As I mentioned in another post, I don't believe it's the message that people are reacting to but rather the delivery method.
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Post by NormanClature on Feb 20, 2019 15:33:32 GMT
Instead of making a blanket statement, why not directly address the things Brie Larson has said and done? Explain to people why their complaints are invalid. I think the complainers first need to make a case that she ever said anything inappropriate in the first place, first by quoting her in her own words giving proper context, then explaining why what she said was wrong. If this has ever happened I missed the posts where it did. I have previously described my dislike of several things she has said and done, sans direct quotes.
PS. I am not a DCU bandwagoner trying to misappropriate her comments to further my own anti MCU agenda by claiming she said she hates white men.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 20, 2019 15:35:46 GMT
Larsons come into the comics-movie-sphere out of nowhere with no affiliation and is talking like she owns the joint. Thats what is pissing off a lot people. Gal gadot didnt do that. She knew she had to shut her mouth and let her acting do the talking and not pretend shes some messiah, especially since people where questioning her talent anyway.
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Post by NormanClature on Feb 20, 2019 15:44:15 GMT
As I mentioned in another post, I don't believe it's the message that people are reacting to but rather the delivery method. I can't speak for other people but that isn't the case with me. I dislike the fact that she belittled the #metoo movement by narcissistically likening some dude at an airport asking for her phone number to sexual harrassment. I dislike that she used a disabled black woman to further her own SJW agenda by selecting her to take an interview and then making a point of telling everyone why she chose her. And while she didn't actually say she hates white dudes, her obsession with making everything about inclusivity is nauseating. Like I have said before, the fact that she is a charmless harpy is irrelevant. I would dislike anyone behaving as she has.
Oh...and don't forget the GoFundMe page to pay for people to watch her movie. She (an overprivileged white woman) just got paid more than any other MCU lead for her first appearance in one of their movies. God forbid she donates any of that.
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Post by faustus5 on Feb 20, 2019 15:46:38 GMT
I have previously described my dislike of several things she has said and done, sans direct quotes. Direct quotes are essential for any critique to be serious, though. In cases like this I often find that people are not reacting to objective reality, but instead to some idea they've built up in their minds.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 20, 2019 15:57:20 GMT
So it's weird to see the complaint towards anything dealing in Social Justice. It's just something to bitch about. When they aren't complaining about Marvel movies being SJW jerkoff pieces, they're posting articles about how Black Panther isn't a feminist movie or asking why there aren't more transgender characters in the MCU. When they aren't complaining about the MCU having too much comedy, they're asking why Captain Marvel doesn't smile in the teaser. There's no rhyme or reason to most of the criticism, the haters just like to complain.
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Post by NormanClature on Feb 20, 2019 16:06:42 GMT
I have previously described my dislike of several things she has said and done, sans direct quotes. Direct quotes are essential for any critique to be serious, though. In cases like this I often find that people are not reacting to objective reality, but instead to some idea they've built up in their minds. If they are essential then go find some which show me the error of my ways.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 20, 2019 16:19:04 GMT
Instead of making a blanket statement, why not directly address the things Brie Larson has said and done? Explain to people why their complaints are invalid. Explain to me why fighting for Social Justice or being a Social Justice Warrior is a bad thing.
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Post by faustus5 on Feb 20, 2019 16:19:44 GMT
Direct quotes are essential for any critique to be serious, though. In cases like this I often find that people are not reacting to objective reality, but instead to some idea they've built up in their minds. If they are essential then go find some which show me the error of my ways. And there we have it--suddenly it is my job to research the veracity, accuracy, and logical soundness of your complaints. Sorry, pumpkin, that isn't how it works. The person who makes the complaint is the one responsible for backing it up. If you can't, I call bullshit.
And by the way, this was exactly what I was expecting all along. Time and time again, people who whine this way turn out not to be reacting to objective reality, but instead to some idea they've built up in their minds.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 20, 2019 16:22:45 GMT
So it's weird to see the complaint towards anything dealing in Social Justice. It's just something to bitch about. When they aren't complaining about Marvel movies being SJW jerkoff pieces, they're posting articles about how Black Panther isn't a feminist movie or asking why there aren't more transgender characters in the MCU. When they aren't complaining about the MCU having too much comedy, they're asking why Captain Marvel doesn't smile in the teaser. There's no rhyme or reason to most of the criticism, the haters just like to complain. Deflection and off topic nonsense once again. Why dont you people comment on topic rather than talk about other users. So please, do you think superheros have always been Sjws? Whats your value input
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 20, 2019 16:30:34 GMT
It's just something to bitch about. When they aren't complaining about Marvel movies being SJW jerkoff pieces, they're posting articles about how Black Panther isn't a feminist movie or asking why there aren't more transgender characters in the MCU. When they aren't complaining about the MCU having too much comedy, they're asking why Captain Marvel doesn't smile in the teaser. There's no rhyme or reason to most of the criticism, the haters just like to complain. Deflection and off topic nonsense once again. Why dont you people comment on topic rather than talk about other users. So please, do you think superheros have always been Sjws? Whats your value input What's your value input? You complain for the sake of complaining and contradict yourself constantly. When you present an honest, intelligent argument, I'll be sure to present a counterpoint.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Feb 20, 2019 16:34:55 GMT
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Post by charzhino on Feb 20, 2019 16:36:09 GMT
Deflection and off topic nonsense once again. Why dont you people comment on topic rather than talk about other users. So please, do you think superheros have always been Sjws? Whats your value input What's your value input? You complain for the sake of complaining and contradict yourself constantly. When you present an honest, intelligent argument, I'll be sure to present a counterpoint. Did i start this thread? Am i the only one complaining about brie larsons behaviour? NO. I gave my input, yet you like to attack users for the sake of attacking. Yawn
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 20, 2019 16:40:11 GMT
What's your value input? You complain for the sake of complaining and contradict yourself constantly. When you present an honest, intelligent argument, I'll be sure to present a counterpoint. Did i start this thread? Am i the only one complaining about brie larsons behaviour? NO. I gave my input, yet you like to attack users for the sake of attacking. Yawn Did I quote you? Did I mention you in my initial post? Did I start a conversation with you? Seems like you have a guilty conscience. You like to hate on Marvel movies 24/7. Solid life priorities. Yawn
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Post by charzhino on Feb 20, 2019 16:49:48 GMT
Did i start this thread? Am i the only one complaining about brie larsons behaviour? NO. I gave my input, yet you like to attack users for the sake of attacking. Yawn Did I quote you? Did I mention you in my initial post? Did I start a conversation with you? Seems like you have a guilty conscience. You like to hate on Marvel movies 24/7. Solid life priorities. Yawn You see criticism as hate. You've become like so many of the others that used to be here. Any form of criticism is seen as hate, no matter how light or strong. A Your automatic response is to label a person a troll/hater. Youve become that person. you indirected me saying "starting threads on black panther is not a feminist movie" which I started (i didn't write the article so how you can say that is a troll/hate thread is beyond me)
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 20, 2019 17:06:40 GMT
Did I quote you? Did I mention you in my initial post? Did I start a conversation with you? Seems like you have a guilty conscience. You like to hate on Marvel movies 24/7. Solid life priorities. Yawn You see criticism as hate. You've become like so many of the others that used to be here. Any form of criticism is seen as hate, no matter how light or strong. A Your automatic response is to label a person a troll/hater. Youve become that person. That's because ReyKahuka is a Pats fan and knowing that they have to defend and justify all that cheating by Brady and the Pats is too much for them to handle. It's similar to how Hillary had to publicly defend Bill after he went on TV and lied to the American people about having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky in the Oval Office and then later had to admit the truth. Having to defend someone you know is lying can be pretty stressful, and ReyKahuka having to defend a known cheater/fraud like Brady and the Pats is just too much for him to handle.
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