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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 24, 2019 20:30:07 GMT
Maybe she can wait until after the film is released before pontificating to everyone about her high morality. We haven’t even had a chance to appreciate the character yet we hear her SJWing herself everywhere. If that’s the publicity she wants, fine. But it’s our choice whether we watch the film. We may be suckers for the MCU, but not for her character yet. We get enough SJWing from all directions. We don’t need to be brow-beaten by an entertainer most audiences have yet to appreciate. And much of her sentiments are considered by many to be flawed. I think most of us believe in equality. But the current emphasis on privilege and quotas is IMO a transient one. Those who fall for it risk looking foolish in the future when it is considered redundant. Yeah I have no problem people hating on her comments or even choosing not to see the film because they don't particularly like the actress. But going onto Captain Marvel's Rotten Tomatoes page and "reviewing" the things she's said in the media just doesn't make any sense. It has nothing to do with the film.
There are plenty of places like Twitter, Facebook, IMDb v2, and really probably millions of places on the internet to voice their opinion about Brie Larson. Going to RT and complaining about it is like going to the Days of Future Past page and talking about accusations against Bryan Singer. That's so wildly irrelevant to the quality of a film that it's just annoying.
It's basically the exact same problem anti-SJW people have. They don't want to go to the movies and be preached to... well I don't want to go to a fucking movie review site and be preached to either! Lol.
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 5:08:04 GMT
I'm going to wait for Captain Marvel to show up on the cheap rack before I try to drudge through 2 hours of an invincible Mary Sue.
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 5:15:12 GMT
Out of curiosity, does that include people like Tim Allen, James Woods and Clint Eastwood, or is it just the liberal ones? Oh believe me, some of the conservative ones have no idea what they are talking about either. But it's getting to where you can count Hollywood conservatives on your fingers so I don't give them much thought. I'd like to live in a world where celebrities didn't behave like politicians and politicians weren't treated as celebrities. The majority of them are activists though and it's ruined the experience of enjoying cinema, because instead of getting to escape political drama I'm forced to think about it when I see their stupid faces and that's after paying 20 bucks for a ticket and an extra 50 for a popcorn bucket, large drink, and a pickle. |
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Post by merh on Apr 18, 2019 7:52:30 GMT
I'm going to wait for Captain Marvel to show up on the cheap rack before I try to drudge through 2 hours of an invincible Mary Sue. One year at Comic-con they shut down an entire section of the building so Angelina Jolie could enter the building. Back for one of the Tomb Raiders. Around the time it was reported she had a hospital wing closed down because she had a baby or some such so maybe it was a phase or maybe she's still doing it. I haven't much cared for her since she put me out of my way that year. I've seen her in many films since. Loved Maleficent. She's still a jerk. And I will pay to see Eternals. All the outrage over Larson is crazy. She is no one most of you will ever have to meet in real life
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 18, 2019 12:00:55 GMT
I'm going to wait for Captain Marvel to show up on the cheap rack before I try to drudge through 2 hours of an invincible Mary Sue. You taught Disney a lesson for sure.
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 20:21:47 GMT
I'm going to wait for Captain Marvel to show up on the cheap rack before I try to drudge through 2 hours of an invincible Mary Sue. You taught Disney a lesson for sure. I'm not looking to teach Disney a lesson, I'm merely prioritizing what deserves my patronage based on my limited budget. Why would I pay 20 dollars for a movie ticket or 25 on an ultra 4k HD to reward an actress who made it clear how ungrateful she is for my business she is when I could be using that money towards tipping my server after a nice meal with my children. I'm certain Disney won't even notice I wasn't there, however the more they insult their customers the more other folks will see things my way and shareholders will take notice. |
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Apr 18, 2019 20:37:22 GMT
You taught Disney a lesson for sure. I'm not looking to teach Disney a lesson, I'm merely prioritizing what deserves my patronage based on my limited budget. Why would I pay 20 dollars for a movie ticket or 25 on an ultra 4k HD to reward an actress who made it clear how ungrateful she is for my business she is when I could be using that money towards tipping my server after a nice meal with my children. I'm certain Disney won't even notice I wasn't there, however the more they insult their customers the more other folks will see things my way and shareholders will take notice. It's one thing being a precious snowflake but pretending to have children to make your point just makes it perfect. |
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 20:41:47 GMT
I'm going to wait for Captain Marvel to show up on the cheap rack before I try to drudge through 2 hours of an invincible Mary Sue. One year at Comic-con they shut down an entire section of the building so Angelina Jolie could enter the building. Back for one of the Tomb Raiders. Around the time it was reported she had a hospital wing closed down because she had a baby or some such so maybe it was a phase or maybe she's still doing it. I haven't much cared for her since she put me out of my way that year. I've seen her in many films since. Loved Maleficent. She's still a jerk. And I will pay to see Eternals. All the outrage over Larson is crazy. She is no one most of you will ever have to meet in real life Angelina Jolie doesn't bother me that much but I would be annoyed with that situation for sure. I don't think she's that great of an actress but I'll jump at the opportunity to see anything Brad is in because I generally like his films. Yes the outrage mob is annoying in any instance and I'm almost ashamed of myself for taking part in it. If I feel unwelcome by the lead star for simply being a Caucasian male then the production company doesn't necessarily need my cash. It doesn't matter if I'll meet the lead star in real life or not. I can think of a TSA agent who she did meet in person and she was quick to jump on social media to trash him for simply finding her attractive. I wonder what impression she left on his friends and family. Do you think they'll be interested in seeing her film? In any business the more customers a representative goes out of their way to insult the lasting impression of that company will in the long run will lose customers. I'm not taking it out on Disney though, yet. I still enjoy the other avengers films which I own all of I'm still a fan of star wars and pirates of the carribian but the stars for those films, including the liberal ones haven't protested my existence as a white male. Chris Evans is extremely liberal but at least he's respectful towards his fans. Now I didn't take part in the Rotten Tomatoes review bombing but I find it hysterical they changed their entire format just to rescue the film which portrays a strong independent woman who doesn't need rescuing. In fact from what I understand she doesn't have any weakness or vulnerabilities at all which in itself sounds boring and not worth watching. The thing which makes hero and heroine films so entertaining is their struggle with their flaws and how they overcome them to win the fight. It's like playing a video game and never losing. Eventually you're going to want something more challenging. Sure the mere mortals and victims she saves I'm sure are scripted to appreciate her but whats the point if they come to expect it? "were being attacked by aliens but don't worry because Mary Sue will save us all and not break a sweat. |
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 20:49:03 GMT
I'm not looking to teach Disney a lesson, I'm merely prioritizing what deserves my patronage based on my limited budget. Why would I pay 20 dollars for a movie ticket or 25 on an ultra 4k HD to reward an actress who made it clear how ungrateful she is for my business she is when I could be using that money towards tipping my server after a nice meal with my children. I'm certain Disney won't even notice I wasn't there, however the more they insult their customers the more other folks will see things my way and shareholders will take notice. It's one thing being a precious snowflake but pretending to have children to make your point just makes it perfect. I actually do have children, a 10 year old girl and a 16 year old boy. So by calling me a snowflake you're saying Disney is entitled my money anyways? Even if the film is garbage and the lead star is a total jerk?? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but you've revealed yourself to be not worth being taken seriously. Come up with a real argument or don't bother responding. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Apr 18, 2019 20:55:33 GMT
One year at Comic-con they shut down an entire section of the building so Angelina Jolie could enter the building. Back for one of the Tomb Raiders. Around the time it was reported she had a hospital wing closed down because she had a baby or some such so maybe it was a phase or maybe she's still doing it. I haven't much cared for her since she put me out of my way that year. I've seen her in many films since. Loved Maleficent. She's still a jerk. And I will pay to see Eternals. All the outrage over Larson is crazy. She is no one most of you will ever have to meet in real life Angelina Jolie doesn't bother me that much but I would be annoyed with that situation for sure. I don't think she's that great of an actress but I'll jump at the opportunity to see anything Brad is in because I generally like his films. Yes the outrage mob is annoying in any instance and I'm almost ashamed of myself for taking part in it. If I feel unwelcome by the lead star for simply being a Caucasian male then the production company doesn't necessarily need my cash. It doesn't matter if I'll meet the lead star in real life or not. I can think of a TSA agent who she did meet in person and she was quick to jump on social media to trash him for simply finding her attractive. I wonder what impression she left on his friends and family. Do you think they'll be interested in seeing her film? In any business the more customers a representative goes out of their way to insult the lasting impression of that company will in the long run will lose customers. I'm not taking it out on Disney though, yet. I still enjoy the other avengers films which I own all of I'm still a fan of star wars and pirates of the carribian but the stars for those films, including the liberal ones haven't protested my existence as a white male. Chris Evans is extremely liberal but at least he's respectful towards his fans. Now I didn't take part in the Rotten Tomatoes review bombing but I find it hysterical they changed their entire format just to rescue the film which portrays a strong independent woman who doesn't need rescuing. In fact from what I understand she doesn't have any weakness or vulnerabilities at all which in itself sounds boring and not worth watching. The thing which makes hero and heroine films so entertaining is their struggle with their flaws and how they overcome them to win the fight. It's like playing a video game and never losing. Eventually you're going to want something more challenging. Sure the mere mortals and victims she saves I'm sure are scripted to appreciate her but whats the point if they come to expect it? "were being attacked by aliens but don't worry because Mary Sue will save us all and not break a sweat. Can you provide a specific quote where Brie Larson said she didn't want White Males to watch Captain Marvel? The closest anybody has ever provided me was a quote about the Press Junket for A Wrinkle in Time:
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 21:03:48 GMT
Angelina Jolie doesn't bother me that much but I would be annoyed with that situation for sure. I don't think she's that great of an actress but I'll jump at the opportunity to see anything Brad is in because I generally like his films. Yes the outrage mob is annoying in any instance and I'm almost ashamed of myself for taking part in it. If I feel unwelcome by the lead star for simply being a Caucasian male then the production company doesn't necessarily need my cash. It doesn't matter if I'll meet the lead star in real life or not. I can think of a TSA agent who she did meet in person and she was quick to jump on social media to trash him for simply finding her attractive. I wonder what impression she left on his friends and family. Do you think they'll be interested in seeing her film? In any business the more customers a representative goes out of their way to insult the lasting impression of that company will in the long run will lose customers. I'm not taking it out on Disney though, yet. I still enjoy the other avengers films which I own all of I'm still a fan of star wars and pirates of the carribian but the stars for those films, including the liberal ones haven't protested my existence as a white male. Chris Evans is extremely liberal but at least he's respectful towards his fans. Now I didn't take part in the Rotten Tomatoes review bombing but I find it hysterical they changed their entire format just to rescue the film which portrays a strong independent woman who doesn't need rescuing. In fact from what I understand she doesn't have any weakness or vulnerabilities at all which in itself sounds boring and not worth watching. The thing which makes hero and heroine films so entertaining is their struggle with their flaws and how they overcome them to win the fight. It's like playing a video game and never losing. Eventually you're going to want something more challenging. Sure the mere mortals and victims she saves I'm sure are scripted to appreciate her but whats the point if they come to expect it? "were being attacked by aliens but don't worry because Mary Sue will save us all and not break a sweat. Can you provide a specific quote where Brie Larson said she didn't want White Males to watch Captain Marvel? The closest anybody has ever provided me was a quote about the Press Junket for A Wrinkle in Time: The fact she has made race an issue in the first place by bringing it up, attacking a TSA agent online for doing what's natural for men to do when they find women attractive (all he did was ask for her number), or firing white male journalists from her press tour. Her attitude clearly reflects someone who has a hate filled point of view towards white men. The only reason I suspect she went out of the way to "correct the record" was for damage control. I find her lack of sincerely in the comments you pointed out astonishing. She made a few Freudian slips and now she's in cover up mode, like a politician would be. I find that pretty repulsive too. She got herself in this mess by opening her mouth about race in the first place. Hopefully other actors and actresses will learn from her blunder and keep their mouths shut about things that don't have anything to do with the films they are promoting and leave the politicking to the politicians and pundits. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Apr 18, 2019 21:14:24 GMT
Can you provide a specific quote where Brie Larson said she didn't want White Males to watch Captain Marvel? The closest anybody has ever provided me was a quote about the Press Junket for A Wrinkle in Time: The fact she has made race an issue in the first place by bringing it up, attacking a TSA agent online for doing what's natural for men to do when they find women attractive (all he did was ask for her number), or firing white male journalists from her press tour. Her attitude clearly reflects someone who has a hate filled point of view towards white men. The only reason I suspect she went out of the way to "correct the record" was for damage control. I find he rlsck of sincerely in the comments you pointed out astonishing. She made a few Freudian slips and now she's in cover up mode, like a politician would be. I find that pretty repulsive too. She was asking for inclusion of predominantly under representative group in the world of Review/Press. She was talking specifically about 1 movie she didn't want White Males Opinion on. A Wrinkle in Time was made with People of Color in mind especially women of color. Now imagine you help make that movie and you go to the junket and again the under reprentative groupn is still under represented. Case in point. I am drawing (albiet slowly) a picture for Charzhino Now I am making this piece of art for him. Specifically for him. Do you think I care what the rest of you think? No I don't it wasn't made for you it was made for Charzhino . That attitude is speciific to that one drawing. Another drawing I wouldn't care what other people said only the persons or people it was meant for. Just like Brie's comment “I don’t want to hear what a white man has to say about ‘A Wrinkle in Time.’ I want to hear what a woman of color, a biracial woman has to say about the film. I want to hear what teenagers think about the film.” is specific to a Wrinkle in Time. This is not to say that she doesn't want inclusion on every movie junket. She does. Including more minorities could only make things better. Different pinons and pov and all.
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 21:21:36 GMT
The fact she has made race an issue in the first place by bringing it up, attacking a TSA agent online for doing what's natural for men to do when they find women attractive (all he did was ask for her number), or firing white male journalists from her press tour. Her attitude clearly reflects someone who has a hate filled point of view towards white men. The only reason I suspect she went out of the way to "correct the record" was for damage control. I find he rlsck of sincerely in the comments you pointed out astonishing. She made a few Freudian slips and now she's in cover up mode, like a politician would be. I find that pretty repulsive too. She was asking for inclusion of predominantly under representative group in the world of Review/Press. She was talking specifically about 1 movie she didn't want White Males Opinion on. A Wrinkle in Time was made with People of Color in mind especially women of color. Now imagine you help make that movie and you go to the junket and again the under reprentative groupn is still under represented. Case in point. I am drawing (albiet slowly) a picture for Charzhino Now I am making this piece of art for him. Specifically for him. Do you think I care what the rest of you think? No I don't it wasn't made for you it was made for Charzhino . That attitude is speciific to that one drawing. Another drawing I wouldn't care what other people said only the persons or people it was meant for. Just like Brie's comment “I don’t want to hear what a white man has to say about ‘A Wrinkle in Time.’ I want to hear what a woman of color, a biracial woman has to say about the film. I want to hear what teenagers think about the film.” is specific to a Wrinkle in Time. This is not to say that she doesn't want inclusion on every movie junket. She does. Including more minorities could only make things better. Different pinons and pov and all. No matter how you try to spin it she still stepped in it big time. She could have easily declined. A wrinkle on time was a flop and that's because Hollywood took another classic and remade it because apparently it wasn't good enough the first time around although the original was just fine the way it was. Race and gender swapping away from the original writers vision is ridiculous in itself and quite insulting. That isn't her concern because her job is to memorize lines and promote the film she's in. She made it a point to be divisive and now her reputation will suffer because of it. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Apr 18, 2019 21:38:12 GMT
She was asking for inclusion of predominantly under representative group in the world of Review/Press. She was talking specifically about 1 movie she didn't want White Males Opinion on. A Wrinkle in Time was made with People of Color in mind especially women of color. Now imagine you help make that movie and you go to the junket and again the under reprentative groupn is still under represented. Case in point. I am drawing (albiet slowly) a picture for Charzhino Now I am making this piece of art for him. Specifically for him. Do you think I care what the rest of you think? No I don't it wasn't made for you it was made for Charzhino . That attitude is speciific to that one drawing. Another drawing I wouldn't care what other people said only the persons or people it was meant for. Just like Brie's comment “I don’t want to hear what a white man has to say about ‘A Wrinkle in Time.’ I want to hear what a woman of color, a biracial woman has to say about the film. I want to hear what teenagers think about the film.” is specific to a Wrinkle in Time. This is not to say that she doesn't want inclusion on every movie junket. She does. Including more minorities could only make things better. Different pinons and pov and all. No matter how you try to spin it she still stepped in it big time. She could have easily declined. A wrinkle on time was a flop and that's because Hollywood took another classic and remade it because apparently it wasn't good enough the first time around although the original was just fine the way it was. Race and gender swapping away from the original writers vision is ridiculous in itself and quite insulting. That isn't her concern because her job is to memorize lines and promote the film she's in. She made it a point to be divisive and now her reputation will suffer because of it. It's not spin. She wanted inclusion of under representative people. It's not spin that I couldn't care less of other peoples opinion the drawing I'm doing. Except for Charizino And finally I think you might be over estimating the very loud very minor fans who found offence and felt dissociated from the MCU. Right now CM 1.066 billion reasons that provies that the vast majority couldn't give a god damn about hurt feelings of small group of fans. You can't get to 1.066 billion with out being popular. It doesn't say anything of the quality of the movie, but it does gauge the popularity of the movie. So it doesn't look like her stepping in it big time had an effect. Here's a novel idea. Maybe just maybe the only people who cared about her comments were a small group of people. Hell, I'd be willing to bet most people (almost 400m) didn't eve know she made comments. This small group took offense and screamed bloody murder. This made it seem like a bigger deal than it was.
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 21:56:41 GMT
No matter how you try to spin it she still stepped in it big time. She could have easily declined. A wrinkle on time was a flop and that's because Hollywood took another classic and remade it because apparently it wasn't good enough the first time around although the original was just fine the way it was. Race and gender swapping away from the original writers vision is ridiculous in itself and quite insulting. That isn't her concern because her job is to memorize lines and promote the film she's in. She made it a point to be divisive and now her reputation will suffer because of it. It's not spin. She wanted inclusion of under representative people. It's not spin that I couldn't care less of other peoples opinion the drawing I'm doing. Except for Charizino And finally I think you might be over estimating the very loud very minor fans who found offence and felt dissociated from the MCU. Right now CM 1.066 billion reasons that provies that the vast majority couldn't give a god damn about hurt feelings of small group of fans. You can't get to 1.066 billion with out being popular. It doesn't say anything of the quality of the movie, but it does gauge the popularity of the movie. So it doesn't look like her stepping in it big time had an effect. Here's a novel idea. Maybe just maybe the only people who cared about her comments were a small group of people. Hell, I'd be willing to bet most people (almost 400m) didn't eve know she made comments. This small group took offense and screamed bloody murder. This made it seem like a bigger deal than it was. Actually I didn't over estimate anything. You might have missed my comment where I acknowledged that Disney wouldn't know I never made it to the theater. However if you compare captain marvels box office earnings to other marvel films this one under preformed. No doubt they did do well but not as well as they could have. If that trend continues through other films they'll notice the declining numbers. |
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Post by Vassaggo on Apr 18, 2019 22:11:37 GMT
It's not spin. She wanted inclusion of under representative people. It's not spin that I couldn't care less of other peoples opinion the drawing I'm doing. Except for Charizino And finally I think you might be over estimating the very loud very minor fans who found offence and felt dissociated from the MCU. Right now CM 1.066 billion reasons that provies that the vast majority couldn't give a god damn about hurt feelings of small group of fans. You can't get to 1.066 billion with out being popular. It doesn't say anything of the quality of the movie, but it does gauge the popularity of the movie. So it doesn't look like her stepping in it big time had an effect. Here's a novel idea. Maybe just maybe the only people who cared about her comments were a small group of people. Hell, I'd be willing to bet most people (almost 400m) didn't eve know she made comments. This small group took offense and screamed bloody murder. This made it seem like a bigger deal than it was. Actually I didn't over estimate anything. You might have missed my comment where I acknowledged that Disney wouldn't know I never made it to the theater. However if you compare captain marvels box office earnings to other marvel films this one under preformed. No doubt they did do well but not as well as they could have. If that trend continues through other films they'll notice the declining numbers. Under performed?  What because it needed 1.5billion to not under perform. What I meant by over estimating is if you believe that a small group of loud noise effected the Box Office in any meaningful way. Then you have over estimated their power/influence.
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Post by RedDeadFallout on Apr 18, 2019 22:25:37 GMT
It's one thing being a precious snowflake but pretending to have children to make your point just makes it perfect. I actually do have children, a 10 year old girl and a 16 year old boy. So by calling me a snowflake you're saying Disney is entitled my money anyways? Even if the film is garbage and the lead star is a total jerk?? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but you've revealed yourself to be not worth being taken seriously. Come up with a real argument or don't bother responding. Do you think saying "don't bother responding" will have you taken seriously? If anything you're asking me not to respond you don't have to try any harder. And yeah, white men aren't the only people in the world, if that's a problem for you then maybe you're not cut out for these conversations. |
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 22:30:35 GMT
Actually I didn't over estimate anything. You might have missed my comment where I acknowledged that Disney wouldn't know I never made it to the theater. However if you compare captain marvels box office earnings to other marvel films this one under preformed. No doubt they did do well but not as well as they could have. If that trend continues through other films they'll notice the declining numbers. Under performed? What because it needed 1.5billion to not under perform. What I meant by over estimating is if you believe that a small group of loud noise effected the Box Office in any meaningful way. Then you have over estimated their power/influence. Perhaps. Captain Marvel had the second highest grossing opening weekend, after a quick Google search I discovered I had erroneous information, either way I could care less how much money she makes. I won't contribute one cent. Like I previously stated I don't really care if Disney notices or not. Larson has a poor attitude, as she stated on Kimmel her and Samuel Jackson have worked with quite a few people they hate, I can only guess who and why, considering he's a known racist. After seeing her lash out at hemsworth on entertainment tonight there is no doubt she's probably annoying to work with. I'm perfectly content knowing my absence won't make a difference just as you should be content that I won't be swayed otherwise. |
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Post by aphazel on Apr 18, 2019 22:32:23 GMT
I actually do have children, a 10 year old girl and a 16 year old boy. So by calling me a snowflake you're saying Disney is entitled my money anyways? Even if the film is garbage and the lead star is a total jerk?? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but you've revealed yourself to be not worth being taken seriously. Come up with a real argument or don't bother responding. Do you think saying "don't bother responding" will have you taken seriously? If anything you're asking me not to respond you don't have to try any harder. And yeah, white men aren't the only people in the world, if that's a problem for you then maybe you're not cut out for these conversations. Screaming snowflake doesn't do your image any favors. I'm not really interested in having any sort of serious conversation with you and this will be the last amount of any sort of attention you will get from me. |
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Post by blockbusted on Apr 18, 2019 22:39:48 GMT
Under performed? What because it needed 1.5billion to not under perform. What I meant by over estimating is if you believe that a small group of loud noise effected the Box Office in any meaningful way. Then you have over estimated their power/influence. Perhaps. Captain Marvel had the second highest grossing opening weekend, after a quick Google search I discovered I had erroneous information, either way I could care less how much money she makes. I won't contribute one cent. Like I previously stated I don't really care if Disney notices or not. Larson has a poor attitude, as she stated on Kimmel her and Samuel Jackson have worked with quite a few people they hate, I can only guess who and why, considering he's a known racist. After seeing her lash out at hemsworth on entertainment tonight there is no doubt she's probably annoying to work with. I'm perfectly content knowing my absence won't make a difference just as you should be content that I won't be swayed otherwise. That Hemsworth thing was blown out of proportion, so I don't know why you're using that to prove your point.
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